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Tiger Woods' new T/M wedges - shot @ 2018 US Open


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#31 DTown3011

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM

Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:

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Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.
Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.

"The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."

-Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger
-Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)
-Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs

I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs.  That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.

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#32 DannyNoonin

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:15 PM

View PostDTown3011, on 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:

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Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.
Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.

"The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."

-Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger
-Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)
-Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs

I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs.  That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.

I believe it is also possible that the Artisan serial numbers were there because MT sent the raw blanks to TM to have milled. We know TM didn't use that material so its likely the blank was sourced from MT. Just a guess on my part.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM

...chicken...or....egg?

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:18 PM

There are some of you that are spot on about the info on TWs wedge.  And then there are some that just spew out something they “think” they know.  Lol.  Only MT can do MT things.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:36 PM

View Postking6, on 12 June 2018 - 11:50 AM, said:

The 60* looks like a vokey l-grind to me!
I was thinking the same thing!!


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:38 PM

View PostDTown3011, on 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:

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Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.
Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.

"The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."

-Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger
-Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)
-Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs

I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs.  That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.
all great info!

View Postgioguy21, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

...chicken...or....egg?
exactly....

Edited by Ben Martinez, 13 June 2018 - 12:38 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:03 PM

Nike stamped Miura, now TM labeled MT? imagination amazes.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:51 PM

View PostDannyNoonin, on 13 June 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:

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Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.
Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.

"The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."

-Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger
-Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)
-Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs

I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs.  That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.

I believe it is also possible that the Artisan serial numbers were there because MT sent the raw blanks to TM to have milled. We know TM didn't use that material so its likely the blank was sourced from MT. Just a guess on my part.

I’m not following you on the part, “TM does not use this material”?
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:10 PM

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Nike stamped Miura, now TM labeled MT? imagination amazes.

But Nike made terrible equipment. Now MT is the wedge master. See a problem here?
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:14 PM

Was waiting for your comments Cota lol. 😉

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:50 PM

View PostEd Settle, on 13 June 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostDannyNoonin, on 13 June 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:

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Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.
Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.

"The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."

-Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger
-Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)
-Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs

I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs.  That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.

I believe it is also possible that the Artisan serial numbers were there because MT sent the raw blanks to TM to have milled. We know TM didn't use that material so its likely the blank was sourced from MT. Just a guess on my part.

I'm not following you on the part, "TM does not use this material"?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I remember reading that TM was using stainless steel for their wedges and Tiger wanted the carbon steel that he's used to. Would explain why there isn't the red plastic on the bottom of the sole as well.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:22 PM

View PostDannyNoonin, on 13 June 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

View PostEd Settle, on 13 June 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostDannyNoonin, on 13 June 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDTown3011, on 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Jonathan Wall literally details how it all works in the PGATour.com article, so there shouldn't be any confusion:

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Working directly with master craftsman Mike Taylor — who worked at Nike Golf with Woods — Demkowski received numerous grinds to study before settling on a grind for both wedges that was machined in-house.
Once the heads were complete, Demkowski sent the wedges back to Taylor, who built them to Woods' specifications. While the entire process took four weeks, it was only within the last week-and-a-half that Woods began working the wedges at home.

"The cool thing for us is his excitement to play our wedges," Demkowski said, "because he sees the value in the Milled Grind."

-Mike Taylor sent numerous grinds for TaylorMade to study and select for Tiger
-Once chosen, the grinds were milled in-house at TaylorMade (hence the milled grind)
-Wedges were sent back to Taylor to be built to Woods' specs

I'm sure the Artisan serial numbers were added after the fact to track Woods' build specs.  That doesn't necessarily mean the heads were created by Mike.

I believe it is also possible that the Artisan serial numbers were there because MT sent the raw blanks to TM to have milled. We know TM didn't use that material so its likely the blank was sourced from MT. Just a guess on my part.

I'm not following you on the part, "TM does not use this material"?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I remember reading that TM was using stainless steel for their wedges and Tiger wanted the carbon steel that he's used to. Would explain why there isn't the red plastic on the bottom of the sole as well.

The MG wedges have been carbon steel so, I was sure what you were trying to say. Not sure why the plug is out but it could have something to do with the grind and possible only on the original set. I have heard TM has made him back ups that are CNC milled not hand worked.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:45 PM

View PostEd Settle, on 13 June 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:


The MG wedges have been carbon steel so, I was sure what you were trying to say. Not sure why the plug is out but it could have something to do with the grind and possible only on the original set. I have heard TM has made him back ups that are CNC milled not hand worked.

Got ya. I went back to the other thread and found the article I was thinking of. Here's the quote:

"Aside from the specific grinds, Woods' heads are made from carbon steel instead of the stainless steel used for most of TaylorMade's Tour staff.
"He can feel a difference," Demkowski said. "We feel a lot of stuff is geometry driven, but certainly Tiger he can certainly notice a change in the head material.""

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:31 AM

View Postnogamejames, on 13 June 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

View Postorangeology, on 13 June 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

Nike stamped Miura, now TM labeled MT? imagination amazes.

But Nike made terrible equipment. Now MT is the wedge master. See a problem here?

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:32 AM

View Postcota0429, on 13 June 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

There are some of you that are spot on about the info on TWs wedge.  And then there are some that just spew out something they “think” they know.  Lol.  Only MT can do MT things.
You literally added nothing to this thread.....Cool brag though

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:37 AM

View PostAlbatross85, on 14 June 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

View Postcota0429, on 13 June 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

There are some of you that are spot on about the info on TWs wedge.  And then there are some that just spew out something they “think” they know.  Lol.  Only MT can do MT things.
You literally added nothing to this thread.....Cool brag though

Neither have you.  Thanks much appreciated
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:39 PM

View PostQuigleyDU, on 13 June 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

I think you are correct on the process. But you never know who owns that cad program. They maybe artisan on rent to TM. Heck. It wouldn’t shock me to know that artisan had the capability to mill these themselves.  Exactly... and let's not forget that the MT (Artisan) stamp is on not one but BOTH wedges.

lets also not forget that anyone with a decent milling machine and software could do this. You guys all act like there is only one person in the world that know how to grind a wedge.... jeez.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:40 PM

View Postnogamejames, on 13 June 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

View Postorangeology, on 13 June 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

Nike stamped Miura, now TM labeled MT? imagination amazes.

But Nike made terrible equipment. Now MT is the wedge master. See a problem here?

I think the difference here is that most of what Nike made for retail was terrible.  Not everything-- they did make some very nice retail stuff but the vast majority was below average.  The clubs they made for the tour was an entirely different story.
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 03:48 PM

Hi Cota lol
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:02 PM

View Postignitewvu, on 14 June 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

View Postnogamejames, on 13 June 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

View Postorangeology, on 13 June 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

Nike stamped Miura, now TM labeled MT? imagination amazes.

But Nike made terrible equipment. Now MT is the wedge master. See a problem here?

Nike made terrible woods.....nobody even said their classic forged Blade & CB Irons & Wedges weren't as good as anyone elses!!!
Words from a guy that never played the VR Pro Ltd fairway woods :swoon:


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:46 PM

View Postmctrees02, on 20 June 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

View Postignitewvu, on 14 June 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

View Postnogamejames, on 13 June 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

View Postorangeology, on 13 June 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

Nike stamped Miura, now TM labeled MT? imagination amazes.

But Nike made terrible equipment. Now MT is the wedge master. See a problem here?

Nike made terrible woods.....nobody even said their classic forged Blade & CB Irons & Wedges weren't as good as anyone elses!!!
Words from a guy that never played the VR Pro Ltd fairway woods :swoon:

Or the T36 3 wood, or the original Ignite, or the SQ2, or the CT 2.0.


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DWS 24*/ VS Proto
J15 CB 5-PW/ Modus 3 125S
X-Forged MD (50*, 56* 60*)
Spider Si/ SS Mid SLim 2.0

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