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Titleist's new TS 2 & TS 3 driver - shot @ 2018 US Open


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#1741 jlebeane13

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 09:21 AM

View PostMrShield, on 24 November 2018 - 05:55 AM, said:

For you guys that was fit into Smoke 70 6.5 into your TS 3-wood, what swing speed did you have?

I'm 103Mph with my current 917F3 @42.5" and there is an amazing Black Friday offer for TS Fairway with Smoke 70 6.0 and 6.5, but no opportunity to test first. Tempted to buy and trial by error :-)
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 10:11 PM

So I was fit week before last for a TS3.. First time I’ve actually been through a legitimate fitting in 50 years of playing golf.

Ended up ordering a 9.5 TS3 with a HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g shaft, set at B1, with a +2g weight set neutral. The heavier shaft, as well as the heavier weight, was recommended to eliminate a tendency to pull sots to the left with lighter shafts. The B1 was my preferred setting on previous Titleist drivers to flatten the lie slightly to fit my swing. My preferred drive is a relatively straight shot, with a slight fade that drops to the right.

TS3 arrived Wednesday and played for first time today. No range time, straight to the course.

Guess. I should have gone through a fitting sooner, as the driver was great from the very first tee.

I was able to control trajectory, and all but two shots had the slight fade I prefer (those two still went right, but more than I anticipated and aligned for.)

I know some typically state unrealistic gains in distance, but I can honestly say this driver was longer than my last driver, and on two holes in particular was 10-15 yards longer than my typical good drives on these holes.

Club looked great, sounded great, and I was very pleased with the feel of the shaft.

I should be good for at least a couple of years.


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Posted 25 November 2018 - 05:56 PM

I donít know what it is with me and Titleist drivers but I just cannot get the spin down to where I need. Got a TS3 8.5 paired it with a hzrdus black still spinning it 3000 rpms. Guess itís back to the m1 440 8.5.
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 10:40 PM

View Postbunta, on 13 November 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

View PostClarinetmonster2, on 13 November 2018 - 01:38 AM, said:

View Postbunta, on 13 November 2018 - 01:15 AM, said:

Do you guys think the Speeder 661 Evo TS in Stiff (no upcharge from Titleist it seems) is suitable for someone with 97-101 swing speed ? Medium transition. i would demo it, but its such an old shaft, no one has it. just really curious.

Its either the 661 TS Stiff or the Tensei 55 X-Stiff at this point. The Smoke and EV white feels slightly boardy to me. i like something with a little snap.

I would think it would fit your SS perfectly, the only question for how you will get along with it is how you load the shaft. When you say "medium transition" do you feel a slight pause at the top/do you let your hands "drop into the slot" feeling? If you are it could still work well for you but there may be other options that might give you more kick through the ball with that type of swing. I will say that it does have a bit more snap to it than the Smoke IMO but not as much as something like the Even Flow Blue that comes stock in the Rogue. There really are a ton of no-upcharge options for the TS2/TS3 so I can't imagine you not finding something just right.

I would say i have a slight pause, but rotate pretty aggressively. On the Titleist shaft chart, it doesnt seem like a "TS - tour spec" shaft, since it sits in the middle along with other mid/mid shafts like the Blueboards, V2's and even the Tensei AV55(which i like). I just like the idea of a 661 shaft since its very popular back in the day, and im looking for something "new". . But the "TS" name scares me a little because im not sure if i can handle the profile.

I currently play the Matrix 6Q3 which is also a mid/mid shaft, just looking to make a change to see where it goes.

You shouldn't worry about the 'TS' on the EVO TS - it's a mid/mid shaft that plays on the slightly lower launch side of mid. Good shaft, and really nice for a no upcharge upgrade! You'd be perfectly fine for the Stiff.

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 12:24 PM

View PostPatsNation, on 25 November 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

I don't know what it is with me and Titleist drivers but I just cannot get the spin down to where I need. Got a TS3 8.5 paired it with a hzrdus black still spinning it 3000 rpms. Guess it's back to the m1 440 8.5.

Did you go through a fitting for it?

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 02:13 PM

View Postpdaero, on 25 November 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

View Postbunta, on 13 November 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

View PostClarinetmonster2, on 13 November 2018 - 01:38 AM, said:

View Postbunta, on 13 November 2018 - 01:15 AM, said:

Do you guys think the Speeder 661 Evo TS in Stiff (no upcharge from Titleist it seems) is suitable for someone with 97-101 swing speed ? Medium transition. i would demo it, but its such an old shaft, no one has it. just really curious.

Its either the 661 TS Stiff or the Tensei 55 X-Stiff at this point. The Smoke and EV white feels slightly boardy to me. i like something with a little snap.

I would think it would fit your SS perfectly, the only question for how you will get along with it is how you load the shaft. When you say "medium transition" do you feel a slight pause at the top/do you let your hands "drop into the slot" feeling? If you are it could still work well for you but there may be other options that might give you more kick through the ball with that type of swing. I will say that it does have a bit more snap to it than the Smoke IMO but not as much as something like the Even Flow Blue that comes stock in the Rogue. There really are a ton of no-upcharge options for the TS2/TS3 so I can't imagine you not finding something just right.

I would say i have a slight pause, but rotate pretty aggressively. On the Titleist shaft chart, it doesnt seem like a "TS - tour spec" shaft, since it sits in the middle along with other mid/mid shafts like the Blueboards, V2's and even the Tensei AV55(which i like). I just like the idea of a 661 shaft since its very popular back in the day, and im looking for something "new". . But the "TS" name scares me a little because im not sure if i can handle the profile.

I currently play the Matrix 6Q3 which is also a mid/mid shaft, just looking to make a change to see where it goes.

You shouldn't worry about the 'TS' on the EVO TS - it's a mid/mid shaft that plays on the slightly lower launch side of mid. Good shaft, and really nice for a no upcharge upgrade! You'd be perfectly fine for the Stiff.

How is the overall profile of the 661 TS ? I dont like boardy shafts.. i prefer some kick.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:36 AM

View Postbunta, on 26 November 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

View Postpdaero, on 25 November 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

View Postbunta, on 13 November 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

View PostClarinetmonster2, on 13 November 2018 - 01:38 AM, said:

View Postbunta, on 13 November 2018 - 01:15 AM, said:

Do you guys think the Speeder 661 Evo TS in Stiff (no upcharge from Titleist it seems) is suitable for someone with 97-101 swing speed ? Medium transition. i would demo it, but its such an old shaft, no one has it. just really curious.

Its either the 661 TS Stiff or the Tensei 55 X-Stiff at this point. The Smoke and EV white feels slightly boardy to me. i like something with a little snap.

I would think it would fit your SS perfectly, the only question for how you will get along with it is how you load the shaft. When you say "medium transition" do you feel a slight pause at the top/do you let your hands "drop into the slot" feeling? If you are it could still work well for you but there may be other options that might give you more kick through the ball with that type of swing. I will say that it does have a bit more snap to it than the Smoke IMO but not as much as something like the Even Flow Blue that comes stock in the Rogue. There really are a ton of no-upcharge options for the TS2/TS3 so I can't imagine you not finding something just right.

I would say i have a slight pause, but rotate pretty aggressively. On the Titleist shaft chart, it doesnt seem like a "TS - tour spec" shaft, since it sits in the middle along with other mid/mid shafts like the Blueboards, V2's and even the Tensei AV55(which i like). I just like the idea of a 661 shaft since its very popular back in the day, and im looking for something "new". . But the "TS" name scares me a little because im not sure if i can handle the profile.

I currently play the Matrix 6Q3 which is also a mid/mid shaft, just looking to make a change to see where it goes.

You shouldn't worry about the 'TS' on the EVO TS - it's a mid/mid shaft that plays on the slightly lower launch side of mid. Good shaft, and really nice for a no upcharge upgrade! You'd be perfectly fine for the Stiff.

How is the overall profile of the 661 TS ? I dont like boardy shafts.. i prefer some kick.

That's the shaft I play in my TS2 in an X flex and I love it. Perfect fit for my swing and not boardy at all for me. There is a nice kick for sure but it all depends on how you load the shaft. My avg swing speed is 110 with a pretty aggressive transition and a quick tempo so take that for what it's worth. I've experimented with a slower tempo/transition with it and it still works well but doesn't feel as good and I lose some distance.

Compared to something like an Even Flow Blue you wont feel as much kick but for someone with a quicker tempo/aggressive transition the controlled kick of the 661 TS is a much better match than the Even Flow most of the time as you will see comparable distance but the misses will be minimized.

Ok, reading back through our back and forth I would say definitely give the 661 a try if you can before you buy. If it feels a bit too boardy some of the Fuji Pro shafts are also no-upcharge or another option would be the non-Tour Spec 661 if it's available.

Edited by Clarinetmonster2, 03 December 2018 - 01:47 AM.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 08:16 AM

View PostPatsNation, on 25 November 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

I donít know what it is with me and Titleist drivers but I just cannot get the spin down to where I need. Got a TS3 8.5 paired it with a hzrdus black still spinning it 3000 rpms. Guess itís back to the m1 440 8.5.

All in your head imo (and strike). When i got fit for my ts3 i think i seen 1 strike over 3000 which was completely heeled. I had my m1 side by side and time after time spin was 2000-2200 with both drivers. Mishits seemed to stay v straight with the ts3 compared to my m1

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:41 AM

Anyone know the MOI value for TS2 and TS3?

I did a very exensive test between TS2, TS3 and G400 Max hitting 150 balls with each one outside on the range today.

TS2 must be very close to G400 Max in forgiveness?

Interesting note during my test, when you have mishits on the club face TS2 and G400 is very forgiving, but when you have a bad swing coming wrong into the ball either a pull or push I think both those clubs were way more punsihing than TS3. But I assume that's the logic because of the weigthing etc, but anyway, it was very noticeable.

I had the most straight drives with TS2 and G400 Max, but in total dispersion (including the really bad misses both left and right) all clubs were the same.

I had a "fake" fairway, and rough on the sides of it. Outside of this rough I visualized "out" to the left and "water" to the right. I shot 450 balls alternating all three clubs every second shot.

I had most fairway hits with TS2, but also about 20 out/water of the 150 balls.

With TS3 I had least number of fairway hits, but all drives that missed fairway ended up in the rough. Not a single ball out or in the water.

Not an easy decision between TS2 and TS3  :-)
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:00 AM

I bought the TS2 fairway wood. For my game it seemed like the better option from the fairway and is still really salty from the tee.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:03 PM

View PostMrShield, on 04 December 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

Anyone know the MOI value for TS2 and TS3?

I did a very exensive test between TS2, TS3 and G400 Max hitting 150 balls with each one outside on the range today.

TS2 must be very close to G400 Max in forgiveness?

Interesting note during my test, when you have mishits on the club face TS2 and G400 is very forgiving, but when you have a bad swing coming wrong into the ball either a pull or push I think both those clubs were way more punsihing than TS3. But I assume that's the logic because of the weigthing etc, but anyway, it was very noticeable.

I had the most straight drives with TS2 and G400 Max, but in total dispersion (including the really bad misses both left and right) all clubs were the same.

I had a "fake" fairway, and rough on the sides of it. Outside of this rough I visualized "out" to the left and "water" to the right. I shot 450 balls alternating all three clubs every second shot.

I had most fairway hits with TS2, but also about 20 out/water of the 150 balls.

With TS3 I had least number of fairway hits, but all drives that missed fairway ended up in the rough. Not a single ball out or in the water.

Not an easy decision between TS2 and TS3  :-)

Based on claimed MOI numbers, the TS2 should sit right below the G400 Max and right above the standard G400....so very high MOI!  If this is true, the TS2 is likely the second highest MOI driver currently on the market. I think it will come down to looks and feel if you are choosing between the G400 Max and the Titlesist. Titleist claims that their research shows that at a certain point, increasing MOI will actually make some people swing a little slower so they stopped at the MOI number that they wanted in the TS2.
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 05:08 PM

I had a fitting a couple of weeks ago with a Titleist rep at a club near me. Choose to test the TM-B irons and TS drivers against what's in my signature. My gear had higher ball speed/distance and better dispersion than the Titleist offerings. My driver is from 2014, and the irons are circa 2011..........
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 08:45 PM

View Postian-500, on 04 December 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

I had a fitting a couple of weeks ago with a Titleist rep at a club near me. Choose to test the TM-B irons and TS drivers against what's in my signature. My gear had higher ball speed/distance and better dispersion than the Titleist offerings. My driver is from 2014, and the irons are circa 2011..........

Iíd love to see that data.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:19 PM

View Postbogeypro, on 04 December 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

View Postian-500, on 04 December 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

I had a fitting a couple of weeks ago with a Titleist rep at a club near me. Choose to test the TM-B irons and TS drivers against what's in my signature. My gear had higher ball speed/distance and better dispersion than the Titleist offerings. My driver is from 2014, and the irons are circa 2011..........

I'd love to see that data.

I have the specs of the the Titleist build that was sent to me by the rep but it did not include the ball/club data from that day :(
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:19 PM

View Postian-500, on 04 December 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

I had a fitting a couple of weeks ago with a Titleist rep at a club near me. Choose to test the TM-B irons and TS drivers against what's in my signature. My gear had higher ball speed/distance and better dispersion than the Titleist offerings. My driver is from 2014, and the irons are circa 2011..........


I added missing items to your bag. I read your post out loud in a Thurston Howell III voice after reading your signature and it was way more funny..

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Edited by Hondabuff, 05 December 2018 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:56 PM

View PostHondabuff, on 05 December 2018 - 01:19 PM, said:

View Postian-500, on 04 December 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

I had a fitting a couple of weeks ago with a Titleist rep at a club near me. Choose to test the TM-B irons and TS drivers against what's in my signature. My gear had higher ball speed/distance and better dispersion than the Titleist offerings. My driver is from 2014, and the irons are circa 2011..........


I added missing items to your bag. I read your post out loud in a Thurston Howell III voice after reading your signature and it was way more funny..

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HY: Fourteen UT716 16*/21*/26* + Diamana Thump/Tour AD, Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - gw + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57*, Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Putter: Rife Barbados island.
Ball: Honma TW-G1x

A TEE 3 wood and a Honma ball? Come on man, you'll have to do better than that! :)
Driver: jBEAM Glorious 10.5* + Motore VT 7.0x, Superstroke.
HY: Fourteen UT716 16*/21*/26* + Diamana Thump/Tour AD, Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - gw + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57*, Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Putter: Rife Barbados island.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:41 AM

I will give you credit for a bag full of "where the hell did you find this" clubs!
Titleist 915D2 9.5 Aldila Rogue Silver 60X
Titleist 915F 15* Aldila Rogue Silver 60X
Titleist 816 H2 Aldila Rogue Silver 85X
Titleist 716 AP2 Project X 6.0
Titleist Vokey SM4 50/54/58 Project X 6.0
Scotty Cameron Futura 6M
Titleist Staff Stand Bag
Titleist AVX
Bushnell Tour Z6

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