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#1 DMess18

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 10:59 AM

My son competes in the local qualifier for the DCP next week and I've been contemplating what ball to use. I was hoping to get some recommendations for a low compression ball for the driving portion of DCP only. I plan to stick with the Wilson Duo's for chipping and putting but was considering getting a different ball for him for the driving portion. With his slow swing speed he is already at a disadvantage so 5 yards may be a big difference in points. I'm definitely not opposed to using the Duo, but simply wondering if others, with more experience, have any suggestions. Titleist Trusoft possibly? Callaway or Noodle?


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:08 AM

View PostDMess18, on 08 June 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

My son competes in the local qualifier for the DCP next week and I've been contemplating what ball to use. I was hoping to get some recommendations for a low compression ball for the driving portion of DCP only. I plan to stick with the Wilson Duo's for chipping and putting but was considering getting a different ball for him for the driving portion. With his slow swing speed he is already at a disadvantage so 5 yards may be a big difference in points. I'm definitely not opposed to using the Duo, but simply wondering if others, with more experience, have any suggestions. Titleist Trusoft possibly? Callaway or Noodle?

You don't get the balls back on the driving portion so use something you don't care about.  I've gotten some Nike Distance balls from playing in various work events that my son has used in past DCP qualifiers.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:33 AM

View Postleezer99, on 08 June 2018 - 11:08 AM, said:

View PostDMess18, on 08 June 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

My son competes in the local qualifier for the DCP next week and I've been contemplating what ball to use. I was hoping to get some recommendations for a low compression ball for the driving portion of DCP only. I plan to stick with the Wilson Duo's for chipping and putting but was considering getting a different ball for him for the driving portion. With his slow swing speed he is already at a disadvantage so 5 yards may be a big difference in points. I'm definitely not opposed to using the Duo, but simply wondering if others, with more experience, have any suggestions. Titleist Trusoft possibly? Callaway or Noodle?

You don't get the balls back on the driving portion so use something you don't care about.  I've gotten some Nike Distance balls from playing in various work events that my son has used in past DCP qualifiers.

I wouldn't worry about what balls they use for driving in DCP. In most age groups it is the putting and chipping that will win.  In some cases kids are better off taking out a sand wedge then actually using a driver in driving competition when it comes to points.  Also if you drive really long good sometimes the range they use has hills that may bounce their ball out of bounds or roll to one side.

The first year we did the event the kid who mishit her ball and went 5 feet all 3 times actually won the driving contest because everyone else went out of bounds because the range 100 yards  out had a huge incline and the balls all rolled out.

DCP is some skill but mostly luck the day the of the event.

Edited by tiger1873, 08 June 2018 - 11:37 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:39 AM

Wilson Duo at 29 compression is the lowest compression ball on the market I believe.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:04 PM

View Postwildcatden, on 08 June 2018 - 11:39 AM, said:

Wilson Duo at 29 compression is the lowest compression ball on the market I believe.

What about these?



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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:09 PM

View Postleezer99, on 08 June 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

View Postwildcatden, on 08 June 2018 - 11:39 AM, said:

Wilson Duo at 29 compression is the lowest compression ball on the market I believe.

What about these?



Or this?

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:17 PM

View Postwildcatden, on 08 June 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 08 June 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

View Postwildcatden, on 08 June 2018 - 11:39 AM, said:

Wilson Duo at 29 compression is the lowest compression ball on the market I believe.

What about these?



Or this?

Are we sure the kids aren't replying on this thread?  I swear it gets off track so fast sometimes!  :cheesy:

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:32 PM

View Posttiger1873, on 08 June 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:


I wouldn't worry about what balls they use for driving in DCP. In most age groups it is the putting and chipping that will win.  In some cases kids are better off taking out a sand wedge then actually using a driver in driving competition when it comes to points.  Also if you drive really long good sometimes the range they use has hills that may bounce their ball out of bounds or roll to one side.

The first year we did the event the kid who mishit her ball and went 5 feet all 3 times actually won the driving contest because everyone else went out of bounds because the range 100 yards  out had a huge incline and the balls all rolled out.

DCP is some skill but mostly luck the day the of the event.

I agree on the chipping and putting being the most important.  My son has a friend his age who drives it 210-220 and made it the Regional Qualifier but he was rarely able to keep his drives in the scoring area according to his father.  My son hits the ball fairly straight and consistent I'm just looking for any advantage I can give him.  I'd feel like I'm not doing my part to help him if a simple thing like ball choice would make a difference.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:43 PM

At your sons age, the driving portion of the DCP means nothing.  It is totally different than nationals.  As long as he puts it in play he will be fine.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 01:50 PM

Iíve never been to a DCP where they let you use your own ball for driving. As far as I know, you must use the balls they provide. Levels the field.

You can provide your own ball for the other skills.



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Posted 08 June 2018 - 01:58 PM

View PostBertGA, on 08 June 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

I've never been to a DCP where they let you use your own ball for driving. As far as I know, you must use the balls they provide. Levels the field.

You can provide your own ball for the other skills.

I thought the same thing.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 01:59 PM

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:36 PM

We have always used the balls provided at the range (have not had the option to use own balls for driving). I agree that 5 yards more on the driving will not make a difference, all about chipping and putting.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:45 PM

View PostDMess18, on 08 June 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

My son competes in the local qualifier for the DCP next week and I've been contemplating what ball to use. I was hoping to get some recommendations for a low compression ball for the driving portion of DCP only. I plan to stick with the Wilson Duo's for chipping and putting but was considering getting a different ball for him for the driving portion. With his slow swing speed he is already at a disadvantage so 5 yards may be a big difference in points. I'm definitely not opposed to using the Duo, but simply wondering if others, with more experience, have any suggestions. Titleist Trusoft possibly? Callaway or Noodle?

the ball your using is probably the best ball for driving distance from our experience with a 7 year old girl.

On your own ball..... Its in the rules that you can use your own ball for driving. We used our own ball each time.

https://www.drivechi...asked-questions

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:52 PM

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

View PostDMess18, on 08 June 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

My son competes in the local qualifier for the DCP next week and I've been contemplating what ball to use. I was hoping to get some recommendations for a low compression ball for the driving portion of DCP only. I plan to stick with the Wilson Duo's for chipping and putting but was considering getting a different ball for him for the driving portion. With his slow swing speed he is already at a disadvantage so 5 yards may be a big difference in points. I'm definitely not opposed to using the Duo, but simply wondering if others, with more experience, have any suggestions. Titleist Trusoft possibly? Callaway or Noodle?

the ball your using is probably the best ball for driving distance from our experience with a 7 year old girl.

On your own ball..... Its in the rules that you can use your own ball for driving. We used our own ball each time.

https://www.drivechi...asked-questions

Did you get them back?


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:10 PM

We used some of the US Kids yellow balls last year since we had a sleeve in the bag and the alternative was range balls.  Didnít get them back.  They were free from a tourney so didnít care.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:18 PM

My son has always been able to use his own golf balls. You do not get them back.  With that said, it is pointless.  All of the points are in the chipping and putting.

Edited by Palmetto Golfer, 08 June 2018 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:


the ball your using is probably the best ball for driving distance from our experience with a 7 year old girl.

On your own ball..... Its in the rules that you can use your own ball for driving. We used our own ball each time.

https://www.drivechi...asked-questions

Maybe it's a local rule, but this is what I received in the email a few days before, from the local PGA chapter.

"Please be aware that during the driving portion of the event, all participants will be using the same type of golf ball that will be provided."

IIRC, they made a similar announcement before each group.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM

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At your sons age, the driving portion of the DCP means nothing.  It is totally different than nationals.  As long as he puts it in play he will be fine.

LMAO!!!  I was just waiting for HH to chime in!!!

The ball means very little in this competition.  Skill and more so Luck is everything.  Personally, my son uses the ball he normally plays for the putting and chipping (Chromesoft).  For the driving he uses Pinnacles.  Last year he made it all the way to Regionals doing this.

I almost fell over at last year when I saw kid making putts and chips with those US kids balls. :to_become_senile:

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:24 PM

View PostPalmetto Golfer, on 08 June 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

My son has always been able to use his balls. You do not get them back.  With that said, it is pointless.  All of the points are in the chipping and putting.

Pointless?  You hit one OB and you have a big wall to climb to make it through.  I've seen very good golfers get an odd kick or snipe one OB and they didn't advance.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:46 PM

The info I received is that you can use your own balls for driving but you do not get them back.  This is our first time doing DCP so it's all a learning experience for me.  I'm just trying to provide the best opportunity for my son.  If he can hit the ball consistently and gain 5-10yds each shot because I provided him with his best possible option then I say it's worth it whether he advances or not.

Points for driving:
  • 1pt  25 yards or less
  • 2pt  25-50 yards
  • 3pt  50-75 yard
  • 4pt  75-100 yards
  • 5pt  100-110 yards
  • 6pt  110-120 yards
  • 7pts  120-130 yards
  • 8pts  130-140 yards
  • 9pts  140-150 yards
  • 10pts 150-160 yards
  • 11pts 160-170 yards
  • 12pts  170-180 yards
  • 13pts 180-190 yards
  • 14pts  190-200 yards
  • 15pts  200-210 yards
  • 16pts  210-220 yards
  • 17pts 220-230 yards
  • 18pts  230-240 yards
  • 19pts 240-250 yards
  • 20pts 250-260 yards
  • 21pts 260-270 yards
  • 22pts  270-280 yards
  • 23pts 280-290 yards
  • 24pts  290-300 yards
  • 25pts 300+ yards


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:50 PM

View PostBertGA, on 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

the ball your using is probably the best ball for driving distance from our experience with a 7 year old girl.

On your own ball..... Its in the rules that you can use your own ball for driving. We used our own ball each time.

https://www.drivechi...asked-questions

Maybe it's a local rule, but this is what I received in the email a few days before, from the local PGA chapter.

"Please be aware that during the driving portion of the event, all participants will be using the same type of golf ball that will be provided."

IIRC, they made a similar announcement before each group.

Thats odd.  I would point them to this.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:53 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 08 June 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

View PostDMess18, on 08 June 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

My son competes in the local qualifier for the DCP next week and I've been contemplating what ball to use. I was hoping to get some recommendations for a low compression ball for the driving portion of DCP only. I plan to stick with the Wilson Duo's for chipping and putting but was considering getting a different ball for him for the driving portion. With his slow swing speed he is already at a disadvantage so 5 yards may be a big difference in points. I'm definitely not opposed to using the Duo, but simply wondering if others, with more experience, have any suggestions. Titleist Trusoft possibly? Callaway or Noodle?

the ball your using is probably the best ball for driving distance from our experience with a 7 year old girl.

On your own ball..... Its in the rules that you can use your own ball for driving. We used our own ball each time.

https://www.drivechi...asked-questions

Did you get them back?

No but don't care either.  The Wilson duo from last year sells for about $15 a dozen on amazon.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:56 PM

View Postkekoa, on 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 08 June 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

At your sons age, the driving portion of the DCP means nothing.  It is totally different than nationals.  As long as he puts it in play he will be fine.

LMAO!!!  I was just waiting for HH to chime in!!!

The ball means very little in this competition.  Skill and more so Luck is everything.  Personally, my son uses the ball he normally plays for the putting and chipping (Chromesoft).  For the driving he uses Pinnacles.  Last year he made it all the way to Regionals doing this.

I almost fell over at last year when I saw kid making putts and chips with those US kids balls. :to_become_senile:

I disagree the ball means nothing. How a ball reacts when it hits the green can make a difference of finding the grid or not. Not knowing how much it will release or check especially with cheap range balls. Same for putting when thats all feel. Driving maybe it doesn't matter but its a comport thing to a point, but most modern balls are low spinning balls unlike range balls. I would say the ball does matter quite a bit.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:01 PM

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 08 June 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

At your sons age, the driving portion of the DCP means nothing.  It is totally different than nationals.  As long as he puts it in play he will be fine.

LMAO!!!  I was just waiting for HH to chime in!!!

The ball means very little in this competition.  Skill and more so Luck is everything.  Personally, my son uses the ball he normally plays for the putting and chipping (Chromesoft).  For the driving he uses Pinnacles.  Last year he made it all the way to Regionals doing this.

I almost fell over at last year when I saw kid making putts and chips with those US kids balls. :to_become_senile:

I disagree the ball means nothing. How a ball reacts when it hits the green can make a difference of finding the grid or not. Not knowing how much it will release or check especially with cheap range balls. Same for putting when thats all feel. Driving maybe it doesn't matter but its a comport thing to a point, but most modern balls are low spinning balls unlike range balls. I would say the ball does matter quite a bit.

Sorry, I meant the balls means very little within reason.  For instance, I'm not suggesting using a Pinnacle for the chipping.  I would just use the ball that the kid is used to playing with and not go out to buy a more expensive ball for DPC.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:14 PM

View PostDMess18, on 08 June 2018 - 03:46 PM, said:

The info I received is that you can use your own balls for driving but you do not get them back.  This is our first time doing DCP so it's all a learning experience for me.  I'm just trying to provide the best opportunity for my son.  If he can hit the ball consistently and gain 5-10yds each shot because I provided him with his best possible option then I say it's worth it whether he advances or not.

Points for driving:
  • 1pt  25 yards or less
  • 2pt  25-50 yards
  • 3pt  50-75 yard
  • 4pt  75-100 yards
  • 5pt  100-110 yards
  • 6pt  110-120 yards
  • 7pts  120-130 yards
  • 8pts  130-140 yards
  • 9pts  140-150 yards
  • 10pts 150-160 yards
  • 11pts 160-170 yards
  • 12pts  170-180 yards
  • 13pts 180-190 yards
  • 14pts  190-200 yards
  • 15pts  200-210 yards
  • 16pts  210-220 yards
  • 17pts 220-230 yards
  • 18pts  230-240 yards
  • 19pts 240-250 yards
  • 20pts 250-260 yards
  • 21pts 260-270 yards
  • 22pts  270-280 yards
  • 23pts 280-290 yards
  • 24pts  290-300 yards
  • 25pts 300+ yards


Look at where your son will be driving the ball.  At your sons age he could use irons.  He would lose no more than 6 points if he puts them in play.  There is not penalty.  The only penalty at your sons age is not getting a drive on the grid.

In the older divisions the penalty is greater for not using a driver and the penalty is greater for not putting it on the grid.

The Driving portion of this competition is what drives me insane.  Is it a long drive competition or an accuracy competition.  It tries to be both and too me it does it unsuccessfully.    I think they should give you 5 balls and take the best 3.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:14 PM

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 08 June 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

At your sons age, the driving portion of the DCP means nothing.  It is totally different than nationals.  As long as he puts it in play he will be fine.

LMAO!!!  I was just waiting for HH to chime in!!!

The ball means very little in this competition.  Skill and more so Luck is everything.  Personally, my son uses the ball he normally plays for the putting and chipping (Chromesoft).  For the driving he uses Pinnacles.  Last year he made it all the way to Regionals doing this.

I almost fell over at last year when I saw kid making putts and chips with those US kids balls. :to_become_senile:

I disagree the ball means nothing. How a ball reacts when it hits the green can make a difference of finding the grid or not. Not knowing how much it will release or check especially with cheap range balls. Same for putting when thats all feel. Driving maybe it doesn't matter but its a comport thing to a point, but most modern balls are low spinning balls unlike range balls. I would say the ball does matter quite a bit.

The ball absolutely matters with chipping, putting. Inches in those skills can rack up 5 more points with each ball. Easily the difference between each stage of competition.

As for the driving, I'm not as convinced. Certainly think that if your kid is more comfortable with a certain ball, seeing that ball on the tee can be a comforting thought. Anything you can control in those situations is an advantage.

From what I've seen, there are so many suboptimal conditions, it tends to neutralize those advantages. At our local recently, we teed off from the range. About 120 yards out there was something like a 15 foot hill falling away. Probably a 10 degree lateral grade in some locations. Clearly some hot spots and no-go zones on that range. My daughter hits around 150. The older girl in her group 190. Mine got 3 in, the other 2 in. My daughter ended up only 2 points down after drives.

Same thing at Sawgrass last year. From the tee box, in our age group, a well-hit drive would land in the area of 18 which funnels down to the water. I saw nearly every ball with a draw predictably collect right in that lake, even if it started 20 yards in bounds.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 07:40 PM

Just going to throw this out there but if they're making you use range balls they are probably distance limited range balls.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:37 PM

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 01:30 PM

View PostBertGA, on 08 June 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

View Postdarter79, on 08 June 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 08 June 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 08 June 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

At your sons age, the driving portion of the DCP means nothing.  It is totally different than nationals.  As long as he puts it in play he will be fine.

LMAO!!!  I was just waiting for HH to chime in!!!

The ball means very little in this competition.  Skill and more so Luck is everything.  Personally, my son uses the ball he normally plays for the putting and chipping (Chromesoft).  For the driving he uses Pinnacles.  Last year he made it all the way to Regionals doing this.

I almost fell over at last year when I saw kid making putts and chips with those US kids balls. :to_become_senile:

I disagree the ball means nothing. How a ball reacts when it hits the green can make a difference of finding the grid or not. Not knowing how much it will release or check especially with cheap range balls. Same for putting when thats all feel. Driving maybe it doesn't matter but its a comport thing to a point, but most modern balls are low spinning balls unlike range balls. I would say the ball does matter quite a bit.

The ball absolutely matters with chipping, putting. Inches in those skills can rack up 5 more points with each ball. Easily the difference between each stage of competition.

As for the driving, I'm not as convinced. Certainly think that if your kid is more comfortable with a certain ball, seeing that ball on the tee can be a comforting thought. Anything you can control in those situations is an advantage.

From what I've seen, there are so many suboptimal conditions, it tends to neutralize those advantages. At our local recently, we teed off from the range. About 120 yards out there was something like a 15 foot hill falling away. Probably a 10 degree lateral grade in some locations. Clearly some hot spots and no-go zones on that range. My daughter hits around 150. The older girl in her group 190. Mine got 3 in, the other 2 in. My daughter ended up only 2 points down after drives.

Same thing at Sawgrass last year. From the tee box, in our age group, a well-hit drive would land in the area of 18 which funnels down to the water. I saw nearly every ball with a draw predictably collect right in that lake, even if it started 20 yards in bounds.

Our local DCP is the same way.  Hill on one side and Bunker in the other about 215 out.  It hits the hill and bounces left OB.  It hits the sand and no roll out.


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