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#31 robdalky

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 08:44 PM

Felt like I started to see some progress today during our two man scramble tournament out at the Tribute. My partner and I finished at 68, 4 under, and finished first. We also took home three skins. Awesome day. Plus had wind that kept the heat away, major plus.

I am struggling more with the flatter swings right now (primarily just driver), feel like I can get the hip action/shallowing/sequencing going with the rest of the bag.

My putter was also on fire today. After having practiced on the Big Moss small hole for the last month, the cup looked huge today. Drained a couple of 20+ footers, was very steadily hitting the center of the cup from 6-12 feet. The only putts I wish I had back were two three footers that both of us missed - one a slight uphill right to left that I pulled and lipped out, and the second a downhill right to left slider that I played a cup outside right and missed on the low side (a considerably tougher putt).

I have been using Aimpoint express and left hand low now for about the last year and today was the first day in competition where I really felt like I finally "got it". I putted first and was not off on a single read all day. Seemed rare that my partner had to hit a putt.

As an added bonus, I did get to hit one of Ben Hogan's actual clubs (he used it in the 90s). Beautiful 8 iron blade, thin sole. Pured it and hit it strangely the same distance I hit my Ping i25s. Interestingly, his driver grip had a coat hanger down the middle of the underside of the grip (think MCC Align). I asked the rep about that being illegal and he said, "Well, I had the same question as you..." lol. Apparently he did this to guard against hooking the ball.  There was also one of his two irons there with a ton of lead tape on it... wish I would have given that a rip.

All in all a great day.. Freakin golf.. keeps you coming back. :dntknw:

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 04:22 PM

Nice team round!

I don't think you finished with any commentary on the chipping club comparison graph? Did you run an experiment or just graph results?
I like to tee the ball up.. using man sized clubs.

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Is Melbourne getting any closer to happening Momte?

Still need some more, but it's pretty likely I'll come.  Just don't know when yet.

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:09 PM

View Postgentles, on 06 June 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

I'd also recommend picking up "The Practice Manual" by Adam Young to really learn how to practice and get the most out of your time. Your time is limited, so you need to squeeze as much improvement as possible out of every range session. Practicing mechanical changes is a part of this, but also performance training to help translate changes to a course setting. One of my favourite things is variability practice, where you mix up the setting and try to execute a great shot (see the pic below for a game from Andrew Rice (https://www.instagra...ricegolf/?hl=en)

Hope this helps OP, look forward to following along!

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I busted out that Andrew Rice drill today and found it to be pretty fun. Scored 22, not too bad for the first time through. It is incredible what the brain is able to do when you just have to hit a shot and you can't think about mechanics because you're standing on one leg or whatever.

I went to the range today and decided to change things up I was only going to video a swing at the end of the range session. Just see what shakes out as opposed to using it for feedback. It's not quite as shallow as I would have liked to see (but it's definitely better than a month ago).







I still cannot hit a driver to save-my-life after these swing changes, and am still inconsistent through the bag. I have a lesson with Michael on Friday so I hope he can help me straighten some things out, maybe needs tweaking maybe needs more time, probably some of both.

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:15 PM

View Postroyourboat, on 24 June 2018 - 04:22 PM, said:

Nice team round!

I don't think you finished with any commentary on the chipping club comparison graph? Did you run an experiment or just graph results?

Good question, my initial plan was just to graph results and try to improve in weak areas. It works for that. However, I also found that I was having much more success lately with the hybrid than any of the other wedges (maybe related to a recent trip to Bandon and more practice with it), and my percentage within 3 feet with the hybrid was significantly higher. So out on the course, for example the tournament round yesterday, I found myself reaching for a hybrid on the couple of chips we had where it was a reasonable play and it worked out well. So it's given me something tangible that helps me make decisions during rounds.

The one thing I struggle with is the range routine, will have to try and come up with something more concrete (Adam Young book or even better if I'm able to get something more structured from Michael).
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Posted 01 July 2018 - 02:24 PM

Had a lesson with Michael on Friday. The good news is that my shallowing of the club shaft, hip/leg action is good to go. Backswing, takeaway, etc., no changes recommended right now. We worked primarily on staying connected and rotating through from 9 to 3 and getting fully extended by 3 with my arms. The feel to me is holding wrist angle almost with a bowed left wrist at 9 which allows me to then rotate everything together through the ball. The main drill was hitting some shots from 9 to 3 doing that.



We took a look at the driver and Michael had a couple of recommendations. He saw the miss I've been struggling with lately (swipe push fade to right field) and had me intentionally hit huge hooks for a while and gradually moved my targets so that I was just drawing the ball 5-10 yards. Interestingly, I wasn't really thinking about mechanics at all while we were doing this, I was just focused on moving the ball. I focused a little on the extension toward right field (tying the lesson from above) but wasn't really thinking of anything else. Voila, I was pounding it.

His recommendation was for sure to work the ball off the tee. Doesn't matter which direction. Aim down the right side and draw it, or aim down the left and cut it. I've never really thought of myself as "good enough" to do that ("that's for the pros") but he informed me that I am because I can go either way on command and really need to use that as part of my strategy off the tee. It makes sense how it can double the size of your landing area, so I'm in.

In my range sessions this week I'll probably focus on working the driver and 3W and plan on taking that to the course. I'll plan on working the ball right to left (that's my normal shot shape and the fundamentals from my lesson are geared at preventing the block right, so it makes sense to work the ball left).

Certainly feels like it's coming together. I think it's going to be a while until the scores really start to show improvement but I can tell I'm on the right track.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 02:54 AM

View Postrobdalky, on 05 June 2018 - 09:59 PM, said:

work a demanding job (70 hours a week last month),

Do you work for "The Firm" ? :)

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 03:59 PM

Look forward to following this thread. You should look for a fellow WRX member in a similar situation, and turn this in to a competition.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 08:32 PM

Consistency over intensity.

Also the whole charting thing is pointless if you are 90+ on average as you need to basically work on everything.  If anything it will act as a negative more often than not until reaching a certain level which you are nowhere near.

Just focus on the correct practice moves every day, have fun with it, and ask a ton of questions/do research.  Took me 3 months to get the feeling of a steeper takeaway/shaft from P2 to P3 correctly translated from practice to playing and that was about 10-15 mins a day every day roughly 100 reps at night.  And that was 1 move ...

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:19 PM

I love your focus on efficiency vs. raw time with regard to practice.

70 hours per week... been there, don't that.  Thankfully left it behind.  Not an easy time at all.

You're working crazy hours and presumably Mom is working crazy hours with the two young' uns

Hoping the Ultimate Rob Plan includes more time with the little ones, more time with Mom, ruthlessly efficient golf practice, and LESS time at work.  That plan might take longer to put into practice, but your kids and your golf game will love it.

Good luck!

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 10:11 PM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 06 June 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

Current research shows that nearly all learners get more out of a highly focused, task-specific practice session of about 15 minutes (total duration), that takes place on a daily basis. Basically, you practice until your mind starts to wander from the task at hand, and then you either move on to the next item on the "to-do" list...or you stop your practicing altogether. Swinging aimlessly is actually counter-productive.

Learning golf..IMO...is NO different than learning piano or guitar.  It's ALL about learning the fundamentals to the point of utter boredom....then add more boredom.  I see so many folks play several chords on the piano then buy Beethoven's original composition and practically go into convulsions on the piano bench.  There's no going from A to F, let alone A to C.  Just my opinion.  Only a few gifted folks can pick up golf, piano or guitar at a blisteringly accelerated rate.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:50 PM

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View Postrobdalky, on 05 June 2018 - 09:59 PM, said:

work a demanding job (70 hours a week last month),

Do you work for "The Firm" ? :)

Haha, only the 1990s Tom Cruise version
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:52 PM

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Look forward to following this thread. You should look for a fellow WRX member in a similar situation, and turn this in to a competition.

What a great idea.
I would be game to do that if any WRXers are in a similar situation.... any takers??
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:04 PM

View PostPorscheFan, on 08 July 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

I love your focus on efficiency vs. raw time with regard to practice.

70 hours per week... been there, don't that.  Thankfully left it behind.  Not an easy time at all.

You're working crazy hours and presumably Mom is working crazy hours with the two young' uns

Hoping the Ultimate Rob Plan includes more time with the little ones, more time with Mom, ruthlessly efficient golf practice, and LESS time at work.  That plan might take longer to put into practice, but your kids and your golf game will love it.

Good luck!

Great post! Love your take on the ultimate Rob plan. Itís hard to focus on what your values really are when youíre really busy and trying to build a family and a career. You just go day by day keeping head above water, then a few (or maybe a bunch) years go by and you think, man, how did this happen?

For a lot of reasons Iíve started to think recently about what my values are and what I feel is important... so far came to one thing thatís been neglected and itís balance: not too much of any one thing. The right amount of it all. Golf, work, family, etc. Now the challenge is finding out what that is and actually doing it. Anyway, I digress.

I didnít make it out to the range last week unfortunately, but set aside Tuesday afternoon to get out there. As luck would have it, a two week drought ended when the skies opened up with a huge thunderstorm 25 balls through the bucket. I saw some gnarly clouds rolling in and whacked them like a crazy person and then literally ran to my car. 60 mph gusts and torrential downpour followed shortly thereafter. Go figure.

On the plus side, I hit a personal best on the bigmoss tiny hole putting green: 16/20 from 6 feet! I have found really feeling the weight of the putter head and ďletting itĒ swing back and through has been a good feel lately.

I hope to get out for a round Friday morning in advance of another two man scramble on Sunday.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:47 PM

View Postrobdalky, on 11 July 2018 - 11:04 PM, said:

View PostPorscheFan, on 08 July 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

I love your focus on efficiency vs. raw time with regard to practice.

70 hours per week... been there, don't that.  Thankfully left it behind.  Not an easy time at all.

You're working crazy hours and presumably Mom is working crazy hours with the two young' uns

Hoping the Ultimate Rob Plan includes more time with the little ones, more time with Mom, ruthlessly efficient golf practice, and LESS time at work.  That plan might take longer to put into practice, but your kids and your golf game will love it.

Good luck!

Great post! Love your take on the ultimate Rob plan. It’s hard to focus on what your values really are when you’re really busy and trying to build a family and a career. You just go day by day keeping head above water, then a few (or maybe a bunch) years go by and you think, man, how did this happen?

For a lot of reasons I’ve started to think recently about what my values are and what I feel is important... so far came to one thing that’s been neglected and it’s balance: not too much of any one thing. The right amount of it all. Golf, work, family, etc. Now the challenge is finding out what that is and actually doing it. Anyway, I digress.

I didn’t make it out to the range last week unfortunately, but set aside Tuesday afternoon to get out there. As luck would have it, a two week drought ended when the skies opened up with a huge thunderstorm 25 balls through the bucket. I saw some gnarly clouds rolling in and whacked them like a crazy person and then literally ran to my car. 60 mph gusts and torrential downpour followed shortly thereafter. Go figure.

On the plus side, I hit a personal best on the bigmoss tiny hole putting green: 16/20 from 6 feet! I have found really feeling the weight of the putter head and “letting it” swing back and through has been a good feel lately.

I hope to get out for a round Friday morning in advance of another two man scramble on Sunday.

Balance - you hit the nail on the head!

That's something I sucked at for more years than I care to remember.  Work took over everything.  The rest was merely crumbs.

It was great for my career, but overall as a human being, I was incredibly unsuccessful.

Balance is a fantastic and worthy goal.  Get that right and golf is only one of the many wins you'll achieve.  Loving this approach!

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 09:57 PM

So today we had another two man scramble tournament.

I did not end up getting out to play this last week like I had hoped. I did manage to hit the range at about 11pm after leaving work Saturday night to try and get loose, since I hadn't gotten out to play since the last two man tournament on June 23. I didn't get too technical on the range, just went from Driver to Wedge to Driver to Iron to Wedge and tried to get loose. Hit the ball okay.

The course today was Texas Star, in my opinion considerably more difficult than the Tribute. Great track though, and I always enjoy it. I had the same partner for this outing as in June, and felt like 68 was a good target score for us today.

The hole by hole:
1 - Par 4, I hit a nice drive 284 down the center, left us with a wedge in. I put it to 4 1/2 feet and we couldn't convert. There was an odd mound between us and the hole, so that the ball could go left or right, but unless you murdered it dead in the center you probably wouldn't make it. Par.
2 - Par 4, Partner hit a nice 3 wood layup and I put a wedge to 3 feet, tapped in. Birdie. -1.
3 - Par 3, I put one to about 12 feet, putt lipped out. Par.
4 - Par 4, Partner drove one up the right side of the fairway, I hit a 9 iron to about 9 feet and my partner made the birdie putt. -2.
5 - Par 4, Partner hit a 298 yard drive that left us with about 70 yards in, which I put to two feet, and tapped in for another birdie. -3.
6 - Par 4, Partner hit a layup 3 wood and I put a gap wedge to 10 feet, neither of us could convert on the putt. -3.
7 - Par 5, I hit a 313 yard bomb leaving us with about 190 in, I hit a six iron to about 25 feet which my partner converted for eagle, -5.
8 - Par 3, long hole here, partner and I both put 5 irons to about 35 feet and two putted for par. -5.
9 - Par 4, forced layup off the tee. Partner put a 5 wood out in the center in great position, I hit a 9 iron to two feet for another kick in birdie. -6 for a 29 on the front side.

10 - Par 5, we were both wild off the tee here with me out of position and my partner OB. We had to layup, and then both put wedges to about 12 feet, missing the putt and walking away with a disappointing par. -6.
11 - Par 4, short and drivable, we both hit solid drives green side but my partner's was in a better spot, he chipped up to a foot for another birdie. -7.
12 - Par 4, really long and difficult hole, partner hits a solid drive to the middle, I hit a 9 iron to about 15 feet and my putt lipped out. Another par. -7.
13 - Par 4, odd hole, partner hits a great drive, both of our second shots are barely off the fringe on the left, I chip up to a foot for another par. -7.
14 - Par 3, shot of the day here by my partner, puts a 4 iron up the hill 210 to 3 feet for another birdie. -8.
15 - Par 4, partner hits a great drive, I hit a wedge to 6 feet from 70 yards out and my birdie putt lips out. -8.
16 - Par 3, the only clown show of the day. Partner is in the hazard and I hit a tree left of the green, kicking my ball further left. The best we can manage is 35 feet away from jail, and my partner drains it to save par. Amazing. -8.
17 - Par 4, Partner hits a solid drive and approach to about 15 feet, and both of our putts burn the edge. -8.
18 - Par 5. Partner hits a drive down the middle that ends up in a grass bunker, I have tree trouble right. We take his, but the lie is uphill and gnarly. The best we can manage is my layup 60 yards short of the green, which I put to 5 feet, and we both burn the edge again for par for 63.

My partner drove the ball incredibly well, and I didn't leave a single wedge outside 12 feet all day en route to a bogey-free blistering 63. That's the sixth best score in the country this year, and I haven't had that much fun playing golf ever. One of our opponents that we played with today was a former Juco-turned-D1 player and asked on 7 if I was scratch, which was nice affirmation that I am trending the right direction. (With my 9.4 cap!)

If I do have one bit of criticism it is that I am still lacking control and consistency off the tee. That is the only thing that would have cost me shots today in a stroke play format. That's not surprising since that is a lot of what Michael and I worked on at the last lesson, and I haven't had much range time to drill that in. I will say though, I only lost two balls all day, and they were "backup balls" that I busted out to try and clear ridiculous hazards from the tee on 9 and 15 (both requiring about a 280 carry, which I was 0 for 2 on, and would not have tried either of those plays in stroke play).

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:56 PM

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If I do have one bit of criticism it is that I am still lacking control and consistency off the tee. That is the only thing that would have cost me shots today in a stroke play format. That's not surprising since that is a lot of what Michael and I worked on at the last lesson, and I haven't had much range time to drill that in. I will say though, I only lost two balls all day, and they were "backup balls" that I busted out to try and clear ridiculous hazards from the tee on 9 and 15 (both requiring about a 280 carry, which I was 0 for 2 on, and would not have tried either of those plays in stroke play).

Well just as you wouldn't use the "backup-ball-busto" swing all the time (ever ?) in stroke play, maybe you need to also think about whether your "normal-scramble-tee-shot-temp", is also  above your "redline"  (which can vary depending on how often you play / practice) .. or even how you are swinging THAT day  ... or even during that stage of the round.

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Posted Today, 03:45 PM

I did get out to the range today and think I've had a breakthrough.

I discussed with Michael at the last lesson whether there were "different swings" in golf - i.e.: is the driver swing fundamentally different from the iron swing, and from the wedge swing. I personally thought that they were different. However, he explained that really they are the same, with differences only brought about by setup, stance, ball position, etc.

So I tried to figure out why it was that I hit my wedges so exceptionally well the other day, while I wasn't particularly thrilled with my tee game. And the thought that I had was that since my wedge swings were shorter, I was staying more "connected" and rotating through the ball, essentially doing exactly what we had worked on the last lesson, and did it quite well.

For some reason, maybe because the swing is longer (maybe too long in my case), flatter, etc., I think I was losing the connection with my driver swing. I took a couple of videos early in my range session and found my arms and hands to be too far outside, with my downswing too steep.

I tried to stay connected by keeping the inside of my right bicep attached to the outside of my right chest/pectoral muscle, and then started pounding the ball. I was hitting them straight and they landed halfway up the net at the end of the range (not totally sure how far out it is, suffice to say I don't hit the net on the fly usually). I think this helped to keep me connected, kept my downswing more shallow, and more from the inside. Part of keeping that connected too I think is not allowing a massive arm overswing, which I do on occasion.

I have the feeling that with all of this coming together I'm about to make huge strides in my game. Not totally sure when my next round out will be but I'm pretty optimistic that multiple facets of my game seem to be "clicking". I think the 70s are not far off for me.... time will tell
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