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#241 dpb5031

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 05:02 PM

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 11 June 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

tried i200, and I hate the feel. It's not even close to any forged face. what am I missing?

Forged-smorged.  Doesnt make a damned bit of difference.  It's the mass behind the sweet spot in MB blades that gives that gratifying feel, not forged versus cast.

i200s and now i210s are a cavity back.  They'll never feel entirely like an MB blade, but Ping's use of polymer inserts to tune the sound/feel of these irons gives them a gratifying feel in their own right.  Different than an MB blade, but nice nonetheless for those desiring more forgiveness.

based on your theory, say Titelist cb should feel similar to i200 because both are cb?  lol, cb716 is much better than i200 in terms of the feel.

i200 feels very sturdy and firm, which some people might like, but I didn't feel that softness you get from other forged clubs.

I love the feel of a Mizuno true forged blade (MP series) more than anything.  I've hit 'em all,  and there's not a cavity back iron, Titleist, Mizuno, Ping, forged or cast that will ever match that feel.

You may enjoy Titleist forged CBs, but it ain't even close compared to a true MB blade.  No mass behind the sweet spot.  It's that dense mass behind the ball more than anything that gives the feeling of nirvana on a purely struck shot, not whether its forged or cast.  Also why it will sting your hands like crazy when you miss the sweet spot!  (The areas of the face away from the sweet spot are still forged, right, yet it doesn't feel very soft on those shots does it...lol?)

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 05:34 PM

View Postdpb5031, on 11 June 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 11 June 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

tried i200, and I hate the feel. It's not even close to any forged face. what am I missing?

Forged-smorged.  Doesnt make a damned bit of difference.  It's the mass behind the sweet spot in MB blades that gives that gratifying feel, not forged versus cast.

i200s and now i210s are a cavity back.  They'll never feel entirely like an MB blade, but Ping's use of polymer inserts to tune the sound/feel of these irons gives them a gratifying feel in their own right.  Different than an MB blade, but nice nonetheless for those desiring more forgiveness.

based on your theory, say Titelist cb should feel similar to i200 because both are cb?  lol, cb716 is much better than i200 in terms of the feel.

i200 feels very sturdy and firm, which some people might like, but I didn't feel that softness you get from other forged clubs.

I love the feel of a Mizuno true forged blade (MP series) more than anything.  I've hit 'em all,  and there's not a cavity back iron, Titleist, Mizuno, Ping, forged or cast that will ever match that feel.

You may enjoy Titleist forged CBs, but it ain't even close compared to a true MB blade.  No mass behind the sweet spot.  It's that dense mass behind the ball more than anything that gives the feeling of nirvana on a purely struck shot, not whether its forged or cast.  Also why it will sting your hands like crazy when you miss the sweet spot!  (The areas of the face away from the sweet spot are still forged, right, yet it doesn't feel very soft on those shots does it...lol?)

I hear your love for MBs.... but my point was that what's so great about i200 compared with other CBs or any other COMPARABLE models?  I am loving my ping stealth wedges so I wanted to try ping irons but this was a dud for me. Maybe i500 would be better.

Honestly, i210 design is not like 'WOW' .. and based of many fanfare of ping users, I thought there was something special about ping irons.. I haven't felt or seen one yet.

Edited by larciel, 11 June 2018 - 05:35 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 06:12 PM

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

tried i200, and I hate the feel. It's not even close to any forged face. what am I missing?

The sweet spot

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 06:21 PM

View PostByrdman2230, on 11 June 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

tried i200, and I hate the feel. It's not even close to any forged face. what am I missing?

The sweet spot

lol.

i'm gonna tell them at 718cb thread how rude ping people are!!!  /jk

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 06:28 PM

Really liking the clean looks on the wedges.

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 06:48 PM

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 11 June 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 11 June 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

tried i200, and I hate the feel. It's not even close to any forged face. what am I missing?

Forged-smorged.  Doesnt make a damned bit of difference.  It's the mass behind the sweet spot in MB blades that gives that gratifying feel, not forged versus cast.

i200s and now i210s are a cavity back.  They'll never feel entirely like an MB blade, but Ping's use of polymer inserts to tune the sound/feel of these irons gives them a gratifying feel in their own right.  Different than an MB blade, but nice nonetheless for those desiring more forgiveness.

based on your theory, say Titelist cb should feel similar to i200 because both are cb?  lol, cb716 is much better than i200 in terms of the feel.

i200 feels very sturdy and firm, which some people might like, but I didn't feel that softness you get from other forged clubs.

I love the feel of a Mizuno true forged blade (MP series) more than anything.  I've hit 'em all,  and there's not a cavity back iron, Titleist, Mizuno, Ping, forged or cast that will ever match that feel.

You may enjoy Titleist forged CBs, but it ain't even close compared to a true MB blade.  No mass behind the sweet spot.  It's that dense mass behind the ball more than anything that gives the feeling of nirvana on a purely struck shot, not whether its forged or cast.  Also why it will sting your hands like crazy when you miss the sweet spot!  (The areas of the face away from the sweet spot are still forged, right, yet it doesn't feel very soft on those shots does it...lol?)

I hear your love for MBs.... but my point was that what's so great about i200 compared with other CBs or any other COMPARABLE models?  I am loving my ping stealth wedges so I wanted to try ping irons but this was a dud for me. Maybe i500 would be better.

Honestly, i210 design is not like 'WOW' .. and based of many fanfare of ping users, I thought there was something special about ping irons.. I haven't felt or seen one yet.

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 05:16 AM

Such a shame its not the old super durable tumbled finish on the irons.  Thats what I thought it was when I first saw the pics.

Will hold off until the reviews and tech info come out but will probably go i200.  Do love the clean looks Ping are going for as cant stand all the stuff on the back of other clubs

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:55 AM

I went in to a reputable Ping dealer in the capital city of NC and talked about these with a employee. Discussed the looks and how Ping has come up with no doubt their best wedge to date and then we discussed the price, $200 per club was quoted. Whew! Kind of pricey. I would like to give them a shot but price is a little bit of a turnoff, but never say never.
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Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:15 PM

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:27 PM

View PostQuigleyDU, on 12 June 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:


Unfortunately that’s lighting. The red looks sorta bad a**.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 04:12 PM

View PostHot Rod 71, on 05 June 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

I may be in the minority here, but I like the aesthetics of the i200 better.

Those wedges look amazing!

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

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View Posthayzooos, on 06 June 2018 - 10:01 PM, said:

Look nice, but I'm honestly curious where people are getting the i200s for $85/club :D

Talk to your club pro. Assuming you are a member of a course that is a Ping fitter. Online MAP is $100 club I believe. I got an 8 club set for $680 out the door.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 04:30 PM

Looks like a much bigger CTP at least in exposed surface area cover. Not sure how deep it goes. A couple of buyers and fitters that have tried both irons, said the i210 has a much better feel than the i500. i500 had an odd sound and feel but was better than the G700 by a lot, which is good.  i210 Obviously not as long with 3 degrees weaker lofts. One guy thought the i210 felt as good as his 718AP2s which seemed like a good thing. Better feeling than i200 that they had there as well. Maybe worked on feel with same performance as the i200.  Thought the wedges were fine but nothing special. One guy liked the Glide stealth better for feel. Seemed limited in grinds. Didn’t see any WS, SS, TS, ES

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 04:40 PM

View PostRadeon962, on 11 June 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

The finish wears off but over time it evens out.  There is a thread on bar keepers friend and scotch Brite if it is that much of an.issue as it is just a surface coating.

I got impatient for the wear to even out so I did the scotch brite pad and bar keepers friend trick.  Took all the superficial marks off and left a nice even satin sheen that looks much nicer.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 04:48 PM

View Postlarciel, on 11 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

tried i200, and I hate the feel. It's not even close to any forged face. what am I missing?

Not discounting your experience, but coming from AP2s, the I200s feel just as good when flushed.  I’d also add that miss hits feel less harsh with the I200s.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:49 PM

View Posteebomb, on 06 June 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostDizz, on 06 June 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

WOW... both the irons and wedges are absolutely gorgeous.  The irons look like their significantly less offset than what is normal for their "i" iron line.  I can honestly say I would be willing to try those out and give them a go if they play as good as they look.

I have a feeling that these are going to be back-ordered for a month or longer if they are as good as they look.  When the PING i20 irons first came out I was selling two sets every day... but it helped that they performed unbelievably well too.  I actually think these are the best looking irons they've put out in recent memory... maybe even better looking than the S55 which I didn't think would ever happen for a PING.

Hey PING... I will take a set of the irons & wedges, specs as follows:

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

View Postsandy, on 13 June 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like a much bigger CTP at least in exposed surface area cover. Not sure how deep it goes.

the CTP of i210 is of a different design in that it's not about going any deeper in the head, it's about it positioning/size makes it now go further up the face (the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). the CTP material itself is also a different softness (it's softer) than i200's CTP. you can literally feel it squish when you push on the CTP bar with your finger (once again, the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). ;)

edit: and just to confirm for anybody, the i210 will be 431ss, just as what was used in i200.

Edited by Kenny Lee Puckett, 13 June 2018 - 09:00 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:00 PM

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 13 June 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 13 June 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like a much bigger CTP at least in exposed surface area cover. Not sure how deep it goes.

the CTP of i210 is of a different design in that it's not about going any deeper in the head, it's about it positioning/size makes it now go further up the face (the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). the CTP material itself is also a different softness (it's softer) than i200's CTP. you can literally feel it squish when you push on the CTP bar with your finger (once again, the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). ;)

Preference of i500 vs i210 for a slower swing old guy who's a forged snob but needs help in the longer irons? #mouthful

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:03 PM

View PostSwooshLT, on 13 June 2018 - 09:00 PM, said:

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 13 June 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 13 June 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like a much bigger CTP at least in exposed surface area cover. Not sure how deep it goes.

the CTP of i210 is of a different design in that it's not about going any deeper in the head, it's about it positioning/size makes it now go further up the face (the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). the CTP material itself is also a different softness (it's softer) than i200's CTP. you can literally feel it squish when you push on the CTP bar with your finger (once again, the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). ;)

Preference of i500 vs i210 for a slower swing old guy who's a forged snob but needs help in the longer irons? #mouthful
my friend, you'll want to be giving the i500 a demo. :good:
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:37 AM

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 13 June 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 13 June 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like a much bigger CTP at least in exposed surface area cover. Not sure how deep it goes.

the CTP of i210 is of a different design in that it's not about going any deeper in the head, it's about it positioning/size makes it now go further up the face (the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). the CTP material itself is also a different softness (it's softer) than i200's CTP. you can literally feel it squish when you push on the CTP bar with your finger (once again, the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). ;)

edit: and just to confirm for anybody, the i210 will be 431ss, just as what was used in i200.

Hopefully they have that increased area of the CTP cover reinforced. You could put dents in the i200 one pretty easy with a fingernail when testing to feel softness of material. This bigger area looks more exposed like it would be more apt to get damaged by other clubs..especially if the material is softer

Edited by sandy, 14 June 2018 - 07:38 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:17 AM

View Postsandy, on 14 June 2018 - 07:37 AM, said:

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 13 June 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 13 June 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like a much bigger CTP at least in exposed surface area cover. Not sure how deep it goes.

the CTP of i210 is of a different design in that it's not about going any deeper in the head, it's about it positioning/size makes it now go further up the face (the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). the CTP material itself is also a different softness (it's softer) than i200's CTP. you can literally feel it squish when you push on the CTP bar with your finger (once again, the talk will be more "vibration dampening"). ;)

edit: and just to confirm for anybody, the i210 will be 431ss, just as what was used in i200.

Hopefully they have that increased area of the CTP cover reinforced. You could put dents in the i200 one pretty easy with a fingernail when testing to feel softness of material. This bigger area looks more exposed like it would be more apt to get damaged by other clubs..especially if the material is softer

iron headcovers ;)

in all seriousness tho, interesting point

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 07:01 AM

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

Eventually they will figure this out and is will be heralded as a breakthrough.

Edited by MWL , 15 June 2018 - 07:01 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 09:15 AM

View PostMWL, on 15 June 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

Eventually they will figure this out and is will be heralded as a breakthrough.

I’ve been thinking that too! Why not give us a i200/i210 with a players, that’s the one that that throws me off with these. I want to game them but not sure I could switch from my current blades with basically no offset

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:28 AM

In many of the S series before the S55 Ping had fixtures that could press most of the offset out of the irons. When they started chrome plating them they would no longer do it as it would crack the chrome. S58, S57, maybe S56, but definitely not S55.. Could do slight reductions in i series as well. Lots of tour pros had it done, was pretty expensive like $25 a club.

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:09 AM

View PostMWL, on 15 June 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Why do all manufacturers think that more forgiving irons MUST have loads of offset. Is there not a huge market for better players who want more forgiveness in the irons without the hook bias.

They don't make all 460cc drivers or even hybrids offset so why do it with the irons.

Eventually they will figure this out and is will be heralded as a breakthrough.

They do.  They are called iBlades.

I get what you mean, but the reason they do that isn't so much because they are draw bias.  It's that they are so much easier to launch.  Usually a player seeking that type of iron struggles most with getting a long iron up in the air high enough to be playable.   I think with hybrids and with the amount of tech they have in "player" irons now, this category of iron is almost obsolete.

Edited by tobiasjd, 15 June 2018 - 11:24 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 03:57 PM

I got to hit the i210 i500 and forged wedge today..very good reports.. the 500 is like a titleist tmb. Very slight ting sound at impact but not too off putting. It goes miles. The head is smaller than the new i210 too. I didn’t like the tmb as it popped up too much but had a much stronger flight with the i500.

The i210 is very good too. In my opinion more forgiving than the i200 but softer feeling that’s i200 or the forged i500.

There is a large vibration dampening material at the rear that seems to really improve the feel. I would still personally pick the i blade over this but I’m sure it will be a massive seller as its very easy to use.


The wedge was a new one on me all together. I’m saying it’s the best wedge ping have ever made forged and milled to perfection. Great looking with simple lines. Feel was immense. Very nice classic look at address too. This wedge is great!!!!!!

I took a few pics and will get them up

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 05:29 PM

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 05:58 PM

View PostLBGolf, on 15 June 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

I got to hit the i210 i500 and forged wedge today..very good reports.. the 500 is like a titleist tmb. Very slight ting sound at impact but not too off putting. It goes miles. The head is smaller than the new i210 too. I didn’t like the tmb as it popped up too much but had a much stronger flight with the i500.

The i210 is very good too. In my opinion more forgiving than the i200 but softer feeling that’s i200 or the forged i500.

There is a large vibration dampening material at the rear that seems to really improve the feel. I would still personally pick the i blade over this but I’m sure it will be a massive seller as its very easy to use.


The wedge was a new one on me all together. I’m saying it’s the best wedge ping have ever made forged and milled to perfection. Great looking with simple lines. Feel was immense. Very nice classic look at address too. This wedge is great!!!!!!

I took a few pics and will get them up

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 09:27 PM

And embargoed photos will get pulled off of here anyhow.

BTW, has anyone confirmed tungsten in the wedge toes? They have that framing around the loft stamp, and it's similar to when they stuffed it into the s55...

Edited by matchavez, 15 June 2018 - 10:03 PM.


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