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Sellers Ebay Golf images top line

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#1 Jusko

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:31 AM

To fellow Ebayers or anyone selling equipment on any website:

Is it way too much to ask for sellers to offer pictures that show you the "top line or address" of a golf club? To me this is the most important part after I research a few manufacturers and narrow down what I may purchase. I end up spending loads of time searching for images online and go back and forth from ebay "or wherever" to google. It seems like this happens 90% of the time. Has anyone else had these issues? Do other golfers not care about that top line image? Just curious if I am alone here. Any feedback would be much appreciated.

I always do this when I sell and seem to have pretty quick buys with minimal to no questions.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:38 AM

LOL

It is especially annoying with drivers and putters. (irons not so much)
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:40 AM

Any time I've had a question on an eBay item (golf) I asked the seller for additional specific pics. If I got no response, then it told me all I needed to know about both the item and seller.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:40 AM

View Postnsxguy, on 05 June 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

LOL

It is especially annoying with drivers and putters. (irons not so much)
HaHa. I agree mostly although I do like to see the offset of an iron too. But, not showing the top line of a putter!!!! WOW!! it's absolutely crazy to me sometimes.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:48 AM

Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.

I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.

Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:52 AM

View PostChristopherMcDonald, on 05 June 2018 - 10:48 AM, said:

Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.

I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.

Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.
Couldn't agree more. Even for the straight shooters the pictures are sometimes lacking on what I want to buy. I'm no expert in photography but it just seems like a golf club photo should show the playing position or top line. Simple really.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:54 AM

Top line of putters and woods so I can look for imperfections.  Otherwise, topline on irons is kind of pointless since pictures can be deceiving depending on distance and angle the picture is being taken at.  If the topline is that important to you, check them out in person first.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:56 AM

View PostJusko, on 05 June 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostChristopherMcDonald, on 05 June 2018 - 10:48 AM, said:

Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.

I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.

Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.
Couldn't agree more. Even for the straight shooters the pictures are sometimes lacking on what I want to buy. I'm no expert in photography but it just seems like a golf club photo should show the playing position or top line. Simple really.

My photo skills are severely lacking also BUT when I go to sell a club I think to myself:

If I was selling to this guy face to face, he'd grab the club, likely look at it from address, then check for imperfections. So those are the photos I aim to provide to them
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:00 AM

View PostChristopherMcDonald, on 05 June 2018 - 10:56 AM, said:

View PostJusko, on 05 June 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostChristopherMcDonald, on 05 June 2018 - 10:48 AM, said:

Yeah topline is super important. I think overall photos of the entire club should be provided. I want to know what the ENTIRE thing looks like before I make a decision, especially if it's a big ticket club.

I think overall, people need to be more honest with their photos when selling a product. I bought a 3 wood head off ebay with a good 1/4" of shaft broken off in the hosel still. While I totally could drill it out but point is I don't want to and the ad didn't state it had a shaft broken off in there. They also didn't get good photos of how worn down the face or sole was.

Careful out there guys, there are people always trying to get ahead at your expense.
Couldn't agree more. Even for the straight shooters the pictures are sometimes lacking on what I want to buy. I'm no expert in photography but it just seems like a golf club photo should show the playing position or top line. Simple really.

My photo skills are severely lacking also BUT when I go to sell a club I think to myself:

If I was selling to this guy face to face, he'd grab the club, likely look at it from address, then check for imperfections. So those are the photos I aim to provide to them
Exactly.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:03 AM

I think with sites like WRX and MGS, you should be able to find the top line of a club. IMO pics on BST/Ebay posts should show the condition of the club, pointing out whats good and bad. Sure, I want to see the top of a wood to avoid skymarks, but irons, meh.

Edit: If you're worried about being 'duped/had' for a club thats a lesser quality than advertised, i suggest the higher volume/feedback sellers on ebay. I got my 915 off the bay and when I got it, there was a horrible skymark that missed the photoshoot apparently. He sent me half of my money back. I can do a skymark for a deal.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:03 AM

I always include top line photos when applicable. Usually do address, bottom, face on, then the club next to a tape measure to display playing length and to validate tipping or lack thereof.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:05 AM

View PostJDMRN81, on 05 June 2018 - 10:54 AM, said:

Top line of putters and woods so I can look for imperfections.  Otherwise, topline on irons is kind of pointless since pictures can be deceiving depending on distance and angle the picture is being taken at.  If the topline is that important to you, check them out in person first.
Not all of us have that option of checking things out in person. This is strictly discussing online selling and purchases. If you can line up a putter and snap a shot of the top line then you should be able to do the same with an iron.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:09 AM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 05 June 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

I always include top line photos when applicable. Usually do address, bottom, face on, then the club next to a tape measure to display laying length and to validate tipping or lack thereof.
Seems like this would make sense to most. I haven's been using a tape measure but that's something I should probably include as well. Appreciate your feedback.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:20 AM

How about all the buyers on here that say they will take a club send me your paypal and then they go MIA. Getting pretty bad I feel on here

Its too bad there isnt a buy it now feature for instant payment like Ebay

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:23 AM

View PostPatsNation, on 05 June 2018 - 11:20 AM, said:

How about all the buyers on here that say they will take a club send me your paypal and then they go MIA. Getting pretty bad I feel on here

Its too bad there isnt a buy it now feature for instant payment like Ebay
Buy it Now would be a great feature on here for sure.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:26 AM

View PostJusko, on 05 June 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostJDMRN81, on 05 June 2018 - 10:54 AM, said:

Top line of putters and woods so I can look for imperfections.  Otherwise, topline on irons is kind of pointless since pictures can be deceiving depending on distance and angle the picture is being taken at.  If the topline is that important to you, check them out in person first.
Not all of us have that option of checking things out in person. This is strictly discussing online selling and purchases. If you can line up a putter and snap a shot of the top line then you should be able to do the same with an iron.

I totally understand you're speaking about online purchasing only.  I purchase all of my clubs online now, but that's only after I've checked them out/hit them in person first.  If you cannot do the latter, then you're taking a risk regardless if you're getting topline pictures or not (been there, done that, learned my lesson).  That being said, I would like to think most WRX (and eBay) sellers would oblige if you ask them to snap a topline of the irons they're selling.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:34 AM

View PostHuey222, on 05 June 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

I think with sites like WRX and MGS, you should be able to find the top line of a club. IMO pics on BST/Ebay posts should show the condition of the club, pointing out whats good and bad. Sure, I want to see the top of a wood to avoid skymarks, but irons, meh.

Edit: If you're worried about being 'duped/had' for a club thats a lesser quality than advertised, i suggest the higher volume/feedback sellers on ebay. I got my 915 off the bay and when I got it, there was a horrible skymark that missed the photoshoot apparently. He sent me half of my money back. I can do a skymark for a deal.
I hear you. I'm not speaking as much about getting "duped/had" as I am just about showing the playing position. Just want to see the club at set up. I don't really buy from the ones that post blurry pics or one single shot from long range.Lol. It's like some of these sellers are doing a fly by in a cessna and snapping a photo with a 2004 Motorola Razr. They also may use the same camera as the ones used for pics of the sasquatch. Very popular camera for the forest adventures I guess.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:41 AM

I can't believe how many people either don't include head covers with the item.... I mean a damn hybrid or fairway headcover only fetches $10-$15 or so. Alot of times they could have gotten another $10+ for the item for just including the headcover.... so maybe all the hassle and a box and BS is worth $5? Really?

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:11 PM

View PostJusko, on 05 June 2018 - 11:34 AM, said:

I hear you. I'm not speaking as much about getting "duped/had" as I am just about showing the playing position. Just want to see the club at set up. I don't really buy from the ones that post blurry pics or one single shot from long range.Lol. It's like some of these sellers are doing a fly by in a cessna and snapping a photo with a 2004 Motorola Razr. They also may use the same camera as the ones used for pics of the sasquatch. Very popular camera for the forest adventures I guess.

Yea, I know what you mean. Unless you're looking for that unicorn of a clubdeal, you gotta just take your money elsewhere. Cash is king.

The other thing I was thinking of; I've only dealt in small doses with selling on ebay. But I remember there being a limit of pics?

consider this example...

https://www.ebay.com...cvip=true&rt=nc

Kinda like I started saying above, I'd rather have the up-close pics of the faces than a pic looking down the shaft at address, which I could find here:

https://pluggedingol...o-irons-review/

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:21 PM

For woods, hybrids, and putters, I get it. Iím looking for paint chips or dings.  For irons, I already know what the address position looks like before I buy.  Pics donít tell me enough, I generally research or test the item in hand before I even search it up on eBay.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:50 PM

I'll play devil's advocate here...

...if the only photos of the clubs you're about to purchase are the ones from the Ebay ad, you're doing it wrong. There are a million pictures and reviews on clubs around the internet. You should've come across all that stuff before you go to purchase it. If you need to ask the seller for specific pictures because you don't know what a product looks like, you're not trying very hard. That suggests you're on Ebay WAAAAAAY too much, doing far too much shopping. The only thing that needs to be shown in photos is the condition. It's on the buyer to know what they're buying.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:25 PM

View PostMelloYello, on 05 June 2018 - 12:50 PM, said:

I'll play devil's advocate here...

...if the only photos of the clubs you're about to purchase are the ones from the Ebay ad, you're doing it wrong. There are a million pictures and reviews on clubs around the internet. You should've come across all that stuff before you go to purchase it. If you need to ask the seller for specific pictures because you don't know what a product looks like, you're not trying very hard. That suggests you're on Ebay WAAAAAAY too much, doing far too much shopping. The only thing that needs to be shown in photos is the condition. It's on the buyer to know what they're buying.
Agree to disagree. A lot of assumptions in your post on what I do. It's as simple as taking one shot of the top line. The whole point is to not make the buyer search those "million" other places for the pics. If you want to sell it, take the time to sell it. Ebay offers plenty of photos free to do so. I do plenty of research and I have a really good idea on what I want my clubs to look like.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:29 PM

Too funny. Most people b**** aboot no face pics when you show topline pics.  Seems what you want is a 360 degree rotating video complete with hand models and happy ending.  If you want brand new ... probably should pay for it.  Assuming you are worried about dings.and if you are taking a view so that you can decide if you like the club.   eBay or the bst isnít there to ď sell ď you clubs. They are there to offer clubs ď for sale ď. Huge difference.  Oems make clubs and offer what you want in terms of sales.  Contact them and pay for those pictures and reviews.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:42 PM

View PostJusko, on 05 June 2018 - 01:25 PM, said:

View PostMelloYello, on 05 June 2018 - 12:50 PM, said:

I'll play devil's advocate here...

...if the only photos of the clubs you're about to purchase are the ones from the Ebay ad, you're doing it wrong. There are a million pictures and reviews on clubs around the internet. You should've come across all that stuff before you go to purchase it. If you need to ask the seller for specific pictures because you don't know what a product looks like, you're not trying very hard. That suggests you're on Ebay WAAAAAAY too much, doing far too much shopping. The only thing that needs to be shown in photos is the condition. It's on the buyer to know what they're buying.
Agree to disagree. A lot of assumptions in your post on what I do. It's as simple as taking one shot of the top line. The whole point is to not make the buyer search those "million" other places for the pics. If you want to sell it, take the time to sell it. Ebay offers plenty of photos free to do so. I do plenty of research and I have a really good idea on what I want my clubs to look like.

If you want reviews, browse GolfWRX.

If you want to hold it in your hands go to GG, PGASS, DSG, etc.

If you want cheap prices go to Ebay.

If you want photos simply open another window in your browser and Google the club.



Sorry bud, but it sure sounds like you want a faster, more streamlined process for purchasing clubs to which an appropriate response would be...

...just how many clubs are you buying!? ;)
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#25 ZA206

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:46 PM

I know when I have sold clubs on ebay, I ALWAYS have the following shots in the ad:
Closeup of Face
Closeup of Topline with the seam where the face meets the crown clearly visible and in focus
Closeup of Sole/hosel
Closeup of Backside
Closeup of Shaft label/ID area
Over-all picture of the entire club with the head cover

Six pictures is all you need, but it needs to be the correct 6. Everything I've ever sold, I sold FAST. "Free shipping" and a solid "buy it now" price helps as well.

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#26 erock9174

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 02:15 PM

I often buy from Proclubs on ebay and while they do a good job normally of describing the crown on woods and hybrids they take the picture of the topline and not of the full crown and it drives me nuts.  I know they have a boat load of listings but one more pic each would really make their listings the best around.
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#27 PixlPutterman

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 02:48 PM

What is even worse are the sellers that post stock images and list a club in bargain/fair condition..........
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#28 MelloYello

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 03:12 PM

View PostPixlPutterman, on 05 June 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

What is even worse are the sellers that post stock images and list a club in bargain/fair condition..........

There's a special place in hell...
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#29 Jusko

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 03:13 PM

View PostZA206, on 05 June 2018 - 01:46 PM, said:

I know when I have sold clubs on ebay, I ALWAYS have the following shots in the ad:
Closeup of Face
Closeup of Topline with the seam where the face meets the crown clearly visible and in focus
Closeup of Sole/hosel
Closeup of Backside
Closeup of Shaft label/ID area
Over-all picture of the entire club with the head cover

Six pictures is all you need, but it needs to be the correct 6. Everything I've ever sold, I sold FAST. "Free shipping" and a solid "buy it now" price helps as well.

-ZA
I'm the same way. I really don't sell on there to make a lot of money. I'm done with the club I'm selling so the buyer always gets a great deal with plenty of the clearest photos I can provide (Top Line at address included). Thanks for your feedback.

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#30 wrmiller

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 07:29 PM

You can find a topline shot of any club on the makers website. I'm more interested in pics of the faces and soles of the clubs, but that's just me I guess.

I've sold my share of clubs on Ebay, and will shortly be selling a couple more. Never have any problems.

I'll make sure not to list them here. ;)

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