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My attempt to shallow the shaft


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#1 yellowballs

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:17 PM

I posted a video a few weeks ago and got some feedback that I was slightly more steep in the downswing.  I've been working on a steeper backswing (by not getting clubhead too far behind me) and a shallower downswing.  

Today I was at the range and was trying to exaggerate the feeling by really internally rotating right (trail) shoulder at the top of backswing (aka flying elbow) and then trying to immediately externally rotate to start the downswing.  It was working really well.  Most balls were draws.  Only had a few that went right.  I assume by getting too far under the plane or open face at impact.  

Is this a good way to work on getting more shallow?

Edited by yellowballs, 18 May 2018 - 09:30 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:28 PM

Didn't see your video, but agree that exaggerating a new move/correction can be a good idea as lots of time even a small change can feel bigger than it really is. You said it was working really well, so I'd keep it up. If you starting blocking too many to the right, its probably time to stop exaggerating the move (or do another video).

Going to add that I think I prefer the idea of keeping your right arm straighter on the back-swing rather than actually making the right elbow fly, but again, I did not see your video, and what you tried seems to have worked.

Edited by SkiSchoolPro, 17 May 2018 - 05:36 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:35 PM

 SkiSchoolPro, on 17 May 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

Didn't see your video, but agree that exaggerating a new move/correction can be a good idea as lots of time even a small change can feel bigger than it really is. You said it was working really well, so I'd keep it up. If you starting blocking too many to the right, its probably time to stop exaggerating the move (or do another video).
Thanks.  I will keep working on it and hopefully post another video in the next few weeks.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:45 PM

Thinking a bit more about it, I'd say that keeping the clubhead outside your hands on your take-away (as opposed to rolling it inside) might be another way to improve your back-swing, rather than the flying elbow concept (although there are some similarities in the mechanics).
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:46 PM

Internal rotation of the right shoulder on the downswing? How do you not come over the top? How do you even hit the ball?


Edited by Llortamaisey, 17 May 2018 - 05:48 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:15 PM

 SkiSchoolPro, on 17 May 2018 - 05:45 PM, said:

Thinking a bit more about it, I'd say that keeping the clubhead outside your hands on your take-away (as opposed to rolling it inside) might be another way to improve your back-swing, rather than the flying elbow concept (although there are some similarities in the mechanics).
I do this also.  Kind of a combo of the two.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:16 PM

 Llortamaisey, on 17 May 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

Internal rotation of the right shoulder on the downswing? How do you not come over the top? How do you even hit the ball?

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Meant external on downswing.  Got them mixed up.  Thanks for catching that.  Made correction in OP.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:22 PM

Best way to work on it is with an instructor.
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:02 AM

 yellowballs, on 17 May 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

I posted a video a few weeks ago and got some feedback that I was slightly more steep in the downswing.  I've been working on a steeper backswing (by not getting clubhead too far behind me) and a shallower downswing.  

Today I was at the range and was trying to exaggerate the feeling by really internally rotating right (trail) shoulder at the top of backswing (aka flying elbow) and then trying to immediately externally rotate to start the downswing.  It was working really well.  Most balls were draws.  Only had a few that went right.  I assume by getting to far under the plane or open face at impact.  

Is this a good way to work on getting more shallow?

It is the easiest way to get shallow but I ended up dropping the right shoulder too much and the club was open so it eventually created two further problems and a bad back.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:29 AM

I had a nasty problem with slices and push slices a few weeks ago. Once I looked up what the symptom was (not the cause) I realized I was coming over the top. Took a video. Super flat takeway, than coming down steep with the shaft. Not the same problem you have, but I saw this video by Monte, worked on it, and it helped. Even my extreme exaggeration of the drill, worked better than my normal swing.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:38 AM

 jdang307, on 18 May 2018 - 08:29 AM, said:

I had a nasty problem with slices and push slices a few weeks ago. Once I looked up what the symptom was (not the cause) I realized I was coming over the top. Took a video. Super flat takeway, than coming down steep with the shaft. Not the same problem you have, but I saw this video by Monte, worked on it, and it helped. Even my extreme exaggeration of the drill, worked better than my normal swing.


Thanks for posting the video.  I think I was doing that unconsciously.  My steeper downswing is probably caused by sucking the clubhead too far inside during takeaway.  It wasn't horrible, but just enough to cause the steepness.  At the range I was trying to have a more vertical shaft during takeaway AND feel my right elbow disconnect from trunk into internal rotation.  Then to start downswing feel the elbow go into external rotation.

Edited by yellowballs, 18 May 2018 - 09:38 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:39 AM

 MadGolfer76, on 17 May 2018 - 06:22 PM, said:

Best way to work on it is with an instructor.
Agree, but cannot afford an instructor atm.  Still trying to get better though.

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:35 PM

You're on the right track. This video is quite helpful:


Edited by Scottbox, 20 May 2018 - 07:38 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:32 PM

 Scottbox, on 20 May 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

You're on the right track. This video is quite helpful:


Good stuff.  Thanks for posting Scott.

Edited by yellowballs, 20 May 2018 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:46 PM

That YouTube vid is A1....


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:09 AM

Yes, externally rotating that shoulder and getting the elbow to pin to your side should definitely help to shallow the shaft.  Also, bowing the lead wrist during that move will also help.  It helps me to feel like these are very passive moves and that they are allowing the club to just fall into the correct spot, rather than me forcing it there.
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 12:56 PM

yellow, I saw your swing vid's and honestly it was pretty good especially for someone who seems pretty new to golf. I didn't notice any shaft shallowing issues. Where do you live, maybe I can recommend an in person instructor you could see. You will improve much faster in person.

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 02:51 PM

 Redjeep83, on 21 May 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

yellow, I saw your swing vid's and honestly it was pretty good especially for someone who seems pretty new to golf. I didn't notice any shaft shallowing issues. Where do you live, maybe I can recommend an in person instructor you could see. You will improve much faster in person.
Thanks.  I didn't go back and read the replies to my swing video, but if I recall correctly, there were a few comments that I was a little steeper in the downswing.  Once it was pointed out I could see it myself.  It makes sense b/c I've always been able to strike my irons pretty well, but I think you can get away with being steep when hitting irons (and it might even be advantageous...not certain).  On the flip side, I've never been great with my driver and my distance doesn't correspond with my irons.  What I mean is I hit my irons relatively far, but driver has been closer to average.

I live in metro Atlanta.  I'm sure there are some good instructors locally, but the ones I've looked into are REALLY expensive.  Plus, money is tight at the moment.  That's why the online lessons are appealing.  I'm self-taught so far, but feel like I need a professional eye to get me over the next hump (consistently shooting in the high 70's).  Plus, as much as I love this website I've found myself going really far down the rabbit hole and I'd like to have a competent instructor say "you only need to focus on this one thing right now."

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 04:39 PM

 Scottbox, on 20 May 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

You're on the right track. This video is quite helpful:


Is it possible to do this move without being massively across the line?

Edited by phillyspecial, 21 May 2018 - 04:42 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 06:31 PM

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Is it possible to do this move without being massively across the line?
Yes.  It takes some manipulation of the hands.  I think for a drill it doesn't really matter.  You're trying to exaggerate the opposite feeling.

Edited by yellowballs, 21 May 2018 - 06:36 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 07:02 PM

External rotation in trail shoulder to shallow is an effect coming from legs sequencing from the ground up.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 08:00 AM

Make sure on your bakswing, your hands are in front of your chest, not sucked way behind you (to your right).  If they are, its impossible to get them between the clubhead and the ball, which is essentially what shallow is.

Couple down swing feels that work for me:

First move:
Bump hips and tilt away.  
Or squash bug under left foot and tilt away.  
Or gradually post on front leg and tilt away.  
Do one of the above and add on one of the following feels:

1) Feel the clubhead fall a little behind hands and feel the face 'pre-closed' or 'pre-bowed' ('pre closing' gives your subconscious the confindence to shallow and come from inside).  These two will make the through swing feel like a smooth wheel around your hips, less dumping, flipping or snapping feel.

2) With your back to the target, tilt away and feel the butt of the grip go stragiht to the inside of your left hip.  Watch the path with a couple of practice swings, you will notice that the more you keep your shoulders closed while this happens, the more inside the path will be, and the more the shaft will point right (which is shallow).  A bonus is that you will also automatically clear your left hip, because it will feel like you will hit it if you dont!

Edited by Chowdah86, 22 May 2018 - 08:46 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:03 AM

 NXT, on 21 May 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

External rotation in trail shoulder to shallow is an effect coming from legs sequencing from the ground up.

NXT is 100% correct.  Stop working on drills that donít involve proper downswing sequencing as part of shallowing.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:30 AM

 bogeypro, on 22 May 2018 - 10:03 AM, said:

 NXT, on 21 May 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

External rotation in trail shoulder to shallow is an effect coming from legs sequencing from the ground up.

NXT is 100% correct.  Stop working on drills that don’t involve proper downswing sequencing as part of shallowing.

I have not ever been able to use this feel to these results, although others obviously have. I think the reason has to do with the amount of flexibility a person has. When I try the sequencing approach the dynamics of that move make my r elbow want to lift/separate - shoulder rotates internally, not externally.

So I have had to find other solutions which include making sure upper back, shoulders, arms stay relaxed. This lets the arms rotate and shaft shallow. What I am fooling with now is the lower body sequence starts just a moment later to give time for the shallowing to occur. This is directly opposite to the lower body sequence idea. It may not work but it seems like it might.

There can be a lot that has to go into shallowing starting with setup and shoulder/club path going back, arm runoff/late lifting of the arms, creating space for arms via zipper away kind of thing, etc.

My guess is the solution is not a one-size-fits-all.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:59 AM

 yellowballs, on 21 May 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Redjeep83, on 21 May 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

yellow, I saw your swing vid's and honestly it was pretty good especially for someone who seems pretty new to golf. I didn't notice any shaft shallowing issues. Where do you live, maybe I can recommend an in person instructor you could see. You will improve much faster in person.
Thanks.  I didn't go back and read the replies to my swing video, but if I recall correctly, there were a few comments that I was a little steeper in the downswing.  Once it was pointed out I could see it myself.  It makes sense b/c I've always been able to strike my irons pretty well, but I think you can get away with being steep when hitting irons (and it might even be advantageous...not certain).  On the flip side, I've never been great with my driver and my distance doesn't correspond with my irons.  What I mean is I hit my irons relatively far, but driver has been closer to average.

I live in metro Atlanta.  I'm sure there are some good instructors locally, but the ones I've looked into are REALLY expensive.  Plus, money is tight at the moment.  That's why the online lessons are appealing.  I'm self-taught so far, but feel like I need a professional eye to get me over the next hump (consistently shooting in the high 70's).  Plus, as much as I love this website I've found myself going really far down the rabbit hole and I'd like to have a competent instructor say "you only need to focus on this one thing right now."


Your not overly steep, people just don't know what they are talking about most of the time

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 01:55 PM

I think the issue is more about your takeaway than your shallowing the shafts moves.  I think you actually do a decent job of shallowing the shaft considering how far inside the club is coming back on the takeaway.  Generally, an inside takeaway will promote a steeper path on the downswing.  If you can keep the club outside of the hands going back, you might naturally shallow the shaft on the downswing more without thinking about it.  Ideally, when that left arm is parallel on the way down, it would be nice to see the shaft line right of the ball (easier with driver than irons).
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:10 PM

 dsmil, on 22 May 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think the issue is more about your takeaway than your shallowing the shafts moves.  I think you actually do a decent job of shallowing the shaft considering how far inside the club is coming back on the takeaway.  Generally, an inside takeaway will promote a steeper path on the downswing.  If you can keep the club outside of the hands going back, you might naturally shallow the shaft on the downswing more without thinking about it.  Ideally, when that left arm is parallel on the way down, it would be nice to see the shaft line right of the ball (easier with driver than irons).

I agree about his takeaway, however mostly for helping with pitch shots. Regarding having the shaft point outside the ball, ehh, been there done that. I didn't notice much difference.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:28 PM

 Chowdah86, on 22 May 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

Make sure on your bakswing, your hands are in front of your chest, not sucked way behind you (to your right).  If they are, its impossible to get them between the clubhead and the ball, which is essentially what shallow is.

Couple down swing feels that work for me:

First move:
Bump hips and tilt away.  
Or squash bug under left foot and tilt away.  
Or gradually post on front leg and tilt away.  
Do one of the above and add on one of the following feels:

1) Feel the clubhead fall a little behind hands and feel the face 'pre-closed' or 'pre-bowed' ('pre closing' gives your subconscious the confindence to shallow and come from inside).  These two will make the through swing feel like a smooth wheel around your hips, less dumping, flipping or snapping feel.

2) With your back to the target, tilt away and feel the butt of the grip go stragiht to the inside of your left hip.  Watch the path with a couple of practice swings, you will notice that the more you keep your shoulders closed while this happens, the more inside the path will be, and the more the shaft will point right (which is shallow).  A bonus is that you will also automatically clear your left hip, because it will feel like you will hit it if you dont!
Good tips.  Regarding point #1.  I have a hard time bowing lead wrist once the club starts down so I try to do it at the very end of backswing.  I can't envision your 2nd point.  "Tilt away and feel butt of the grip go straight to the inside of your left hip."  Can you explain?

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:32 PM

 Redjeep83, on 22 May 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

 yellowballs, on 21 May 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Redjeep83, on 21 May 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

yellow, I saw your swing vid's and honestly it was pretty good especially for someone who seems pretty new to golf. I didn't notice any shaft shallowing issues. Where do you live, maybe I can recommend an in person instructor you could see. You will improve much faster in person.
Thanks.  I didn't go back and read the replies to my swing video, but if I recall correctly, there were a few comments that I was a little steeper in the downswing.  Once it was pointed out I could see it myself.  It makes sense b/c I've always been able to strike my irons pretty well, but I think you can get away with being steep when hitting irons (and it might even be advantageous...not certain).  On the flip side, I've never been great with my driver and my distance doesn't correspond with my irons.  What I mean is I hit my irons relatively far, but driver has been closer to average.

I live in metro Atlanta.  I'm sure there are some good instructors locally, but the ones I've looked into are REALLY expensive.  Plus, money is tight at the moment.  That's why the online lessons are appealing.  I'm self-taught so far, but feel like I need a professional eye to get me over the next hump (consistently shooting in the high 70's).  Plus, as much as I love this website I've found myself going really far down the rabbit hole and I'd like to have a competent instructor say "you only need to focus on this one thing right now."


Your not overly steep, people just don't know what they are talking about most of the time

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Nice screen shot.  I see what you mean.  It does look shallow enough, but it's still steeper than my backswing.  Hence, I've been working on steeper backswing and not letting clubhead too far behind me halfway back.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:36 PM

 dsmil, on 22 May 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think the issue is more about your takeaway than your shallowing the shafts moves.  I think you actually do a decent job of shallowing the shaft considering how far inside the club is coming back on the takeaway.  Generally, an inside takeaway will promote a steeper path on the downswing.  If you can keep the club outside of the hands going back, you might naturally shallow the shaft on the downswing more without thinking about it.  Ideally, when that left arm is parallel on the way down, it would be nice to see the shaft line right of the ball (easier with driver than irons).
I agree.  Thanks for the feedback.


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