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#1 Markrobert1980

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:06 PM

Hey,

I've a local pro who's a qualified Aimpoint instructor he's running a class this weekend. I'm thinking of doing it my putting is not the greatest but I'm working on it.

What I want to find out is: Will this be good for me or am I better working more on my putting.

I've seen a lot of people using it and rave about it but has anyone here had any good success with it where your putting hasn't been great.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:47 PM

Itís not a get out of jail free card, but yes quite helpful.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:50 PM

Cheers, I think understanding greens might help me putting or at least with tempo and the break. Do you think it's worthwhile doing it then.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:53 PM

i never regretted it.  Good tool to have.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:59 PM

Jut111 when you use it do you use your fingers or do you walk the line.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:03 PM

Well both.. They don't teach to walk the line, just to get your read (through feeling the slope at the midpoint of the putt) there are variations depending on the length of putt, but thats the gist.  

You then use your fingers over the ball to determine your aim point.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:06 PM

I'm going to do it at most it will help me understand green reading which will be good. My home course is a links course so the greens can be quite tough at times.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:10 PM

Go for it.  

I was an awful putter before I took an aim point class.  I'm now pretty damn good.  In fairness, aim point only plays a small part in that, I worked hard on my stroke, start line and got a few really good lessons.  

But right off the bat aim point was helpful in at least giving you an idea on how a putt will break.  I remember being over some putts saying to myself, I literally have no clue which way this is going.  Aimpoint will certainly remove that doubt.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:16 PM

Thanks for the feedback knowing someone has had good experience with it is nice to hear. I've always been afraid of hitting long putts with the fear of it running off for miles. I'll post back after Saturday when I've done the course.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:15 PM

Aimpoint was worth it, yeah. I use it and got good at it and I don't imagine I'll change the way I read greens... i'm just too accurate feeling things out with my feet at this point and I trust it better than my eyes.

It's also a lot faster.

Buy the digital level now and practice feeling slope. You may be able to sneak in some level 2 info if you already understand that point. Or at least I did when I went to my clinic.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:28 PM

Agree with all posters, each has something valuable to say here.  Use aim point all the time but it can be more difficult at close range.  Aimpoint dynamically changes their protocols as evidence mounts so getting the latest and greatest info is well worth it.

Probably equal to the green reading skills imparted is knowing and developing a stroke that will roll the ball end over end.

Edited by juliette91, 17 May 2018 - 07:30 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:44 PM

Doesnít Adam Scott use it?

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 08:30 PM

One of the best lessons Iíve ever had. It has never failed me but I have failed because I didnít practice it consistently. As stated above, get a digital level and once you feel comfortable with the lesson, develop a good practice routine to help with your calibration when you play.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:28 PM

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Doesnít Adam Scott use it?

That's not helping the case Aimpoint.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:33 PM

View PostMidMOGolfer, on 17 May 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Doesnít Adam Scott use it?

That's not helping the case Aimpoint.

Well, that was the point.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:45 PM

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostMidMOGolfer, on 17 May 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Doesnít Adam Scott use it?

That's not helping the case Aimpoint.

Well, that was the point.

Aimpoint isnít Scottís problem. Adam Scott is Adam Scottís problem.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:07 PM

View PostShipwreck, on 17 May 2018 - 09:45 PM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostMidMOGolfer, on 17 May 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Doesnít Adam Scott use it?

That's not helping the case Aimpoint.

Well, that was the point.

Aimpoint isnít Scottís problem. Adam Scott is Adam Scottís problem.

Well, Aimpoint certainly isnít his solution, is it now? Who HAS it worked for? (Not rhetorical.)

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:16 PM

FYI the free Clinometer app for iPhone works great, and youíll always have your calibration level in your pocket. Double-checking slopes during practice rounds, especially after missed reads, is educational.

Whatever level you get, make SURE itís set to percent and not degrees slope. Aimpoint bases everything on % slope.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:56 PM

View Postjut111, on 17 May 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

Go for it.  

I was an awful putter before I took an aim point class.  I'm now pretty damn good.  In fairness, aim point only plays a small part in that, I worked hard on my stroke, start line and got a few really good lessons.  

But right off the bat aim point was helpful in at least giving you an idea on how a putt will break.  I remember being over some putts saying to myself, I literally have no clue which way this is going.  Aimpoint will certainly remove that doubt.

Hmmmm, that might taint your independent viewpoint of your experience with Aimpoint.  A lot of interacting variables.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 11:03 PM

View PostMarkrobert1980, on 17 May 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

Hey,

I've a local pro who's a qualified Aimpoint instructor he's running a class this weekend. I'm thinking of doing it my putting is not the greatest but I'm working on it.

What I want to find out is: Will this be good for me or am I better working more on my putting.

I've seen a lot of people using it and rave about it but has anyone here had any good success with it where your putting hasn't been great.
I’ve found it very helpful.  Especially when I play an unfamiliar course.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 11:04 PM

View PostRattlesnakeRon, on 17 May 2018 - 10:16 PM, said:

FYI the free Clinometer app for iPhone works great, and youíll always have your calibration level in your pocket. Double-checking slopes during practice rounds, especially after missed reads, is educational.

Whatever level you get, make SURE itís set to percent and not degrees slope. Aimpoint bases everything on % slope.

This

Taken a lesson for express a couple years ago and yes it definitely helps. Reads are sorted, now its just hitting it where youre looking and you putt better. Dont buy the digital level at home depot when you can get a free one on your phone

Edited by chrisgilly09, 17 May 2018 - 11:05 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:53 AM

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 10:07 PM, said:

View PostShipwreck, on 17 May 2018 - 09:45 PM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostMidMOGolfer, on 17 May 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostPetunia Sprinkle, on 17 May 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Doesn't Adam Scott use it?

That's not helping the case Aimpoint.

Well, that was the point.

Aimpoint isn't Scott's problem. Adam Scott is Adam Scott's problem.

Well, Aimpoint certainly isn't his solution, is it now? Who HAS it worked for? (Not rhetorical.)

There are quite a few successful LPGA pros that have won using it.

We'll see how Dustin Johnson uses it; he switched to it last week at the Players.

When Hunter Mahan was doing well a few years ago, he was using APE.

Justin Rose won when using the method.

These are just a few examples.

Edited by theboypinoy, 18 May 2018 - 12:55 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:54 AM

View PostMarkrobert1980, on 17 May 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

Hey,

I've a local pro who's a qualified Aimpoint instructor he's running a class this weekend. I'm thinking of doing it my putting is not the greatest but I'm working on it.

What I want to find out is: Will this be good for me or am I better working more on my putting.

I've seen a lot of people using it and rave about it but has anyone here had any good success with it where your putting hasn't been great.

Just my 2 cents. tread carefully. Its very time consuming and messes with your mind if youre a left sided brain type of player. Some people see great results but not many. They usually quit it in short order. If you struggle with reads and feeling ridges with your feet, it might be worth a shot but it is an industry after all. Best of luck and by no means am I ripping the system.

Edited by lowheel, 18 May 2018 - 12:55 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:35 AM

It works. Some enjoy it, others don't.

It was a key factor in turning my putting game on its head ( I started to accept infact my read was good and my stroke was poor and needed work).

My green reading travels very well.

I figure 3 types of people in golf.

Those who don't need it because they read putts well visually..and it doesn't vibe with them anyway.

Those who need it because they don't read putts well and it does vibe with them.

Those who don't read putts well but have no chance in hell of retaining anything about anything in their skull for longer than 30secons and could have tiger himself read putts for them and still get it wrong.

When I first started using it, my regular partners poked fun at me, they now ask me for reads when ever they can and in very team game.

I think that speaks volumes
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:22 AM

I am a die hard Aimpoint believer.  The system is easy to understand but you have to be willing to put in the work of training your feet to feel the slope.  You also have to be willing to trust the system.  If you're the second guessing type then you will struggle with this.  You have to commit to what you feel and not what you see.  This is hard for many people to do but it is critical to being successful.  Is it perfect...nope.  I still misread a putt here and there but its generally degree of slope and not direction.  In other words very rarely do I think a putt moves one way and it actually goes another.  My typical miss is over reading the slope( it ends u being a high side miss which is not bad as missing low in my opinion).  All that said however the best green reading in the world will not help you if you cannot consistently start the ball on the line you choose so if you struggle with this then I suggest you improve this first.  That was my struggle but once I improved that I started making more putts with Aimpoint.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 04:59 AM

As above - important point to note - what is your current green reading level like?!?

Are you reading putts THE WRONG WAY - you gotta try aim point.

If you are looking to refine your read by a 1/4 cup so that your make percentage increase - maybe not for you

For what its worth I think the biggest impact aimpoint had on my game was <6 foot straight putts! I can now confidently start the ball center cup - previously I was always looking for side or the other
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:53 AM

I think having a good basic understanding of aimpoint express can help people read greens better even if they don't use it. I don't use aimpoint that often but it has really helped me better understand why putts break the way they do
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:24 AM

I took an Aimpoint class last spring, and I'm a believer.  I've played my club since it opened 25 years ago, so I thought I understood the greens pretty well.  There are a few spots where I thought "grain" played a big part in the breaks.  Using Aimpoint I'm able to understand that it was instead the slope, not grain, and optical illusions made it look like the ball was breaking the wrong direction.  I definitely read my home greens better now, and its an even bigger help on golf courses I haven't played before.
Its not a complete solution, you still have to be able to hit your intended line, and get the speed right, but it really helps.  Even with Aimpoint, there's a significant amount of interpretation and judgement involved, for compound breaks, uphill and downhill, varying green speeds, but it gives a good systemic basis to start from.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:28 PM

I'm pretty good at lining up my putts but when I stand behind the ball the putts look the same to me. I think if I had a better understanding of reading greens I would be more comfortable over putts. Some of my greens have some tough greens with significant breaks, I just can't get a hang of them.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:30 PM

@dg_1983 green reading is not the beat to be honest.


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