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#1 DanX

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:24 PM

I have been reading major company make driver and irons, either be straight forward printed made in China, others few working " assemble in Japan" its quite confusing word.

do you guys know any brand is truly made in Japan from head to toe?


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:42 PM

I believe Miura.

Right?
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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:28 PM

I dont know the details of a few but there are many being blueprinted and manufactured in Japan. Kyoei and Masda come to mind.
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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:35 PM

I can name a few like Buchi.
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 05:54 PM

does ryoma made their driver/ FW in Japan? I m interested in their FW


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Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:05 PM

Ryoma heads I do not believe are made in Japan.


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Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:06 PM

Nowadays hard to name one

You have to go back 5-10 years when Endo made clubs in Japan for Epon, Yamaha, OnOff, PRGR...
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Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:41 AM

all VEGA heads (irons and wedges) are made in Japan.
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Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:47 AM

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 10:29 AM

Though the company that owns it isn't Japanese, Honma clubs and shafts are made in Japan.

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 12:26 PM

View Post3_Putt_Par, on 26 May 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

Though the company that owns it isn't Japanese, Honma clubs and shafts are made in Japan.

I had thought this also but there’s a thread on TSG that disputes this (assembled in Japan but forged in China). I don’t know who to believe at this point
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Posted 26 May 2018 - 01:41 PM

Yeah, confusing to say the least.  My TW-U driving irons and their shafts say "Made in Japan Sakata," so I have no other reason to believe otherwise seeing how strict Japanese laws are on labeling of products.

There is a good article on MGS which says that they outsourced some manufacturing of the Tour World line to China to "meet demand."  The article also says....

By going more mainstream with the Tour World line, there's criticism Honma is diluting the brand under a narrative of volume sales. This feeling exacerbated by the outsourcing to China, which leaves some of the Tour World Series irons and wedges void of the renowned "Made in JAPAN, Sakata" stamp.

So, if I am reading it correct, if you see the "Made in Japan, Sakata" on the club it's made in Japan.  If not, it's assembled in Japan.
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Posted 26 May 2018 - 01:59 PM

Several of the series when purchased new in store will state on the box they come in "made in china". Very few models are "made in japan". What I have found is all of the GI clubs are chinese, where select forged irons are made and assembled in Japan. It seems to me they just moved some of their process to China that they no longer wanted to support in house
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Posted 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.
[size=3]Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
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Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
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Posted 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Edited by 95124hacker, 27 May 2018 - 07:15 PM.

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King F7 2-3 (19*), Fujikura Pro 75h, S
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'11 OnOff Forged 5-PW, Roddio Pentacross I-10, S
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Posted 28 May 2018 - 07:51 AM

View Post95124hacker, on 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Sorry, I meant Miura’s one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.

Thailand I don’t know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.
[size=3]Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
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Posted 31 May 2018 - 10:25 AM

This one for sure made in Japan with decent price and some bargain too.

https://store.shoppi...toho562/?page=1


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:04 AM

View PostdmeeksDC, on 28 May 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

View Post95124hacker, on 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo's brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura's Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Sorry, I meant Miura's one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.

Thailand I don't know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.

The Endo plant in Thailand is suppose to be brilliant

all features  done in house,chroming etc

One of the top clubmakers in Singapore has toured it and  gave it 100%

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:39 AM

View PostThayneil, on 05 June 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 28 May 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

View Post95124hacker, on 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo's brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura's Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Sorry, I meant Miura's one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.

Thailand I don't know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.

The Endo plant in Thailand is suppose to be brilliant

all features  done in house,chroming etc

One of the top clubmakers in Singapore has toured it and  gave it 100%

Good info and not surprising. The technology and precision in some of these plants is remarkable. I have a steel bicycle frame — steel frames are lighter these days and last forever, far longer than carbon fiber or fragile aluminum — and it was laser-welded in a new plant in Taiwan. The finish on it is perfect. No thick weld beads like you usually see.

Your post tells me Endo forged in Thailand means worth considering.
[size=3]Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 02:49 PM

The key thing is know is: is the Manufacturing PROCESS and QA/QC the same or better in these low cost regions vs Japan? Obviously the labor rate & taxes are lower but if the processes aren’t compromised, then in the end, it shouldn’t matter.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 01:03 PM

What about mizuno

Their forgings are all done in japan

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 01:10 AM

View Postdunn, on 08 June 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

What about mizuno

Their forgings are all done in japan

Only mizuno high end products are made in Japan.... ie. from Mizuno Yoro plant and Chuo plant.

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 08:51 AM

View Post95124hacker, on 23 May 2018 - 09:06 PM, said:

Nowadays hard to name one

You have to go back 5-10 years when Endo made clubs in Japan for Epon, Yamaha, OnOff, PRGR...


Epon is Endo's own brand they make!
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Posted 24 June 2018 - 09:01 AM

View Posttheshadow1971, on 24 June 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

View Post95124hacker, on 23 May 2018 - 09:06 PM, said:

Nowadays hard to name one

You have to go back 5-10 years when Endo made clubs in Japan for Epon, Yamaha, OnOff, PRGR...


Epon is Endo's own brand they make!

Yes, but they do have and also use the plant in Taiwan. The forgings from this plant are as good perhaps better than the forgings in Japan as this is there newest most state of the art facility.

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 09:06 AM

View PostdmeeksDC, on 05 June 2018 - 08:39 AM, said:

View PostThayneil, on 05 June 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 28 May 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

View Post95124hacker, on 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo's brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura's Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Sorry, I meant Miura's one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.

Thailand I don't know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.

The Endo plant in Thailand is suppose to be brilliant

all features  done in house,chroming etc

One of the top clubmakers in Singapore has toured it and  gave it 100%

Good info and not surprising. The technology and precision in some of these plants is remarkable. I have a steel bicycle frame — steel frames are lighter these days and last forever, far longer than carbon fiber or fragile aluminum — and it was laser-welded in a new plant in Taiwan. The finish on it is perfect. No thick weld beads like you usually see.

Your post tells me Endo forged in Thailand means worth considering.


Taiwan is good for steels products like bicycle frames and golf shafts eg KBS.  As for Thailand it is one of the largest car manufacturing regions in the southern hemisphere, hence ENDO being in Thailand.  Interestingly Thailand seems to be a destination for golf manufactuing,  Golf Pride (and I think Lamkin) have manufacturing facilities there, Foot Joy as well, I know their Pure Touch glove  is made in Thailand.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:08 AM

View PostdmeeksDC, on 28 May 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

View Post95124hacker, on 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Sorry, I meant Miura’s one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.

Thailand I don’t know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.

I thought all Miura’s are two piece - spin welded necks.

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

View Postgolftech, on 23 July 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 28 May 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

View Post95124hacker, on 27 May 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostdmeeksDC, on 27 May 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.

Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.

Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.

Sorry, I meant Miura’s one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.

Thailand I don’t know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.

I thought all Miura’s are two piece - spin welded necks.

I think you are correct on that point - there are videos of the Miura & MG models having the hosel spin welded.  I think are only a handful of brands that make fully single piece clubs, and then you get brands milling from single blocks of forged steel  for their irons eg Seven Golf.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 12:23 PM

Yururi and Seven are made in Japan

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#29 MKPAPA

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:24 AM

Sorry if off-topic. I bought some JDM Nike Vapor Pro Irons, was wondering if they differ from the USDM model in any other way aside from color and shaft selection. Where would these have been made?
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Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:18 PM

My Irons are made in Japan....   OnOff Kuro 2015
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