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Tour AD-DI Black vs. Orange Feel

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#1 justinmartel77

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:55 PM

Hi all,

Just wondering if any out there more knowledgeable on the subject may provide some insight for me. Long story short - bought an orange AD-DI in 7x and absolutely loved it. Really lived up to the hype but I didn't like the color too much. Sold that shaft to a friend and bought the black one on Ebay. Black one never felt the same, was clearly stiffer. Seller claimed it wasn't tipped at all but I didn't buy into it so I sold it on ebay and bought another black one. This new seller provided direct proof the shaft was shipped standard from Titleist. The shaft still feels a bit stiffer than the Orange one and I'm really bummed I sold it now because it was lights out off the tee and so buttery.

Has anyone else had the same experience? Club tech in my area thinks the orange one I had was at the low end of frequency range GD will allow to sell and that's why it felt smoother.  I'm pretty positive the second black one has no tipping.

Appreciate feedback.

Justin


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:12 PM

There has to be some differences in frequency here and there but has nothing to do with the color the shaft is painted.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:57 PM

First one was a "made for"...?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:39 PM

View Postjustinmartel77, on 16 May 2018 - 02:55 PM, said:

Hi all,

Just wondering if any out there more knowledgeable on the subject may provide some insight for me. Long story short - bought an orange AD-DI in 7x and absolutely loved it. Really lived up to the hype but I didn't like the color too much. Sold that shaft to a friend and bought the black one on Ebay. Black one never felt the same, was clearly stiffer. Seller claimed it wasn't tipped at all but I didn't buy into it so I sold it on ebay and bought another black one. This new seller provided direct proof the shaft was shipped standard from Titleist. The shaft still feels a bit stiffer than the Orange one and I'm really bummed I sold it now because it was lights out off the tee and so buttery.

Has anyone else had the same experience? Club tech in my area thinks the orange one I had was at the low end of frequency range GD will allow to sell and that's why it felt smoother.  I'm pretty positive the second black one has no tipping.

Appreciate feedback.

Justin
I think you always have to measure tipping. Some manufacturers tip 1"--some don't tip at all--from the factory tells you little about tipping.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:42 PM

In all likelihood the "stiffer" feeling shaft was tipped more. Hard to say now because you can't measure from tip to graphics (which is the typical way to determine this).

No difference in Orange AD DI and Black AD DI

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:58 PM

Titleist typically tips all Driver shafts .5" from the jump.

TaylorMade typically tips all Custom  Driver shafts 1". Go out to their website and configure a Driver with a Custom shaft.  You'll notice the option to have the shaft "soft-tipped" up to 1".  There's no way to add graphite to the tip of a Driver shaft.  They simply don't cut the shaft.  I learned this the hard way b/c my AD-DI felt nothing like an untipped AD-DI felt.  I measured, and it was tipped 1" from the factory.

Graphite Design recommends tipping Driver 0".

I spoke with the former head of Graphite Design, and he suggested manufacturers tip custom shafts to stiffen them up to decrease the probability of breakage, and subsequent return.

Edited by jj9000, 16 May 2018 - 05:58 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:58 PM

i'd play a magenta colored shaft with lime green polka dots if it helped me hit it farther/more-accurately. I've had plenty of putters that I've bought and sold but I always keep my driver/fairway wood shafts around for a reason

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:18 PM

Due to the manufacturing process, two identical AD DI shafts may frequency differently. Perhaps the first shaft you had frequencied closer to the Stiff end of the spectrum and the others felt much stiffer because they were tipped.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:23 PM

Tmag lists the black shaft separately...but says its slightly higher spin (suggesting its a smidge softer)

Not sure if there is any data to back this up or if they are just side by side for clarity

https://www.taylorma...Iron_Shafts.pdf

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:59 PM

Only difference between the two is the color of he paint..same exact shaft


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:10 AM

Isn't the black lower torque.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:08 AM

Are they going in the same head? If so, and the tipping is the same, it might be manufacturing tolerance that one shaft came out slightly less stiff than the others.

I could also imagine there may be something to do with the alignment of the spine, but that's really clutching at straws.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:47 AM

View Postxxio, on 17 May 2018 - 06:10 AM, said:

Isn't the black lower torque.

No

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