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#1 ProphetLogic

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:07 PM

Hey guys,

Ran across an iron set I liked the look of, Honma TW737 V, from a reputable seller(Ksouth9). I watched for a day or two and decided on the ones I wanted. When I finally started bidding, I noticed something strange, which is Ksouth has a bunch of these iron sets, but he always has exactly 26 sets for sale. It seems like as soon as one set ends, another just like it(or maybe the same one) goes back up for sale. Does he have a lot of the same irons or are the same sets recycling? I won the second set I bid on but I guess I'll try to contact him to see if he actually has them before I pay, I don't really want to play the refund game. It's weird either way.

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If it isn't crystal clear, the second screenshot was taken after the auctions from the first SS had ended.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:11 PM

10,000+ positive feedbacks? I wouldn't worry about it all. Some vendors just have different ways of doing business. There was a thread here a while back about the different ways. Nice irons, enjoy them.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:11 PM

He has them, sells a ton of stuff
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:18 PM

If I make a run of 25 or 50 custom head covers I’ll list that I have 5 for sale. When those 5 sell I list another 5. Let the feedback be your bobber.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:19 PM

You can buy  a ton of these fakes on Aliexpress...good luck.

New Cooyute Golf Clubs irons set HONMA TW737V Golf iron set 4-910 Clubs N S.PRO ZELOS 7 Steel Golf shaft R Flex  Free shipping
http://s.aliexpress.com/mAJJjAj2

Edited by BirdieBob, 15 May 2018 - 06:26 PM.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:19 PM

Those are probably stock photos.  Never had any issues with the stuff I've ordered from them.  Recently they were sending out tour heads for M1/M2, brand new.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:42 PM

Look at that, your choice of fake shafts too? That’s going the extra fake yard&#4322827;

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:47 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

You can buy  a ton of these fakes on Aliexpress...good luck.

New Cooyute Golf Clubs irons set HONMA TW737V Golf iron set 4-910 Clubs N S.PRO ZELOS 7 Steel Golf shaft R Flex  Free shipping
http://s.aliexpress.com/mAJJjAj2

Aliexpress doesn't have any honmas with modus 3 120s. I also didn't see any aliexpress honmas with vizard graphite shafts that the guy has on ebay.

Edited by SnakeP., 15 May 2018 - 06:49 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:48 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

You can buy  a ton of these fakes on Aliexpress...good luck.

New Cooyute Golf Clubs irons set HONMA TW737V Golf iron set 4-910 Clubs N S.PRO ZELOS 7 Steel Golf shaft R Flex  Free shipping
http://s.aliexpress.com/mAJJjAj2

Pick your shaft “color” instead of type.  Good grief.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:50 PM

I bet you can buy the shafts separate and install them and then resell.....
NO thanks!!



Golf Clubs Iron Shaft NS PRO MODUS Tour 120 MP1000 JPX900 AP3 718 716 MB TMB M2 wedge pxg Golf Irons steel shaft putter
http://s.aliexpress....FJ?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard




View PostSnakeP., on 15 May 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

You can buy  a ton of these fakes on Aliexpress...good luck.

New Cooyute Golf Clubs irons set HONMA TW737V Golf iron set 4-910 Clubs N S.PRO ZELOS 7 Steel Golf shaft R Flex  Free shipping
http://s.aliexpress.com/mAJJjAj2

Aliexpress doesn't have any honmas with modus 3 120s. I also didn't see any aliexpress honmas with vizard graphite shafts that the guy has on ebay.

Edited by BirdieBob, 15 May 2018 - 06:52 PM.

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PXG 0311X Gen2, Extreme Dark, #2 DI, DG 105, x100
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#11 ProphetLogic

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:56 PM

Seems like a lot of trouble for someone that isn't known for selling fakes, but maybe.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:03 PM

It could be a result of selling limits.

Ebay only allows sellers to list a certain amount in dollars and units. If one set sells and therefore lowers his total listed, he has room to list another set.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:13 PM

LIkely has an auto relist setup once one finishes

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:31 PM

ebay actually queues ads if they are a copy of one...until the "first" has a bid then the second one "appears"
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:26 PM

View Postsandtrap, on 15 May 2018 - 06:42 PM, said:

Look at that, your choice of fake shafts too? That’s going the extra fake yard&#4322827;
I’m sorry I wasn’t saying this sellers product was fake, I was referring to the AliExpress link.
Seller feedback says to me they are the real deal in that qty.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:33 PM

300 or so views in the last 3 hours.

Sounds like a bunch of people read the title and went "Ohmigawd...new fees? What happened?" ;)
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:52 PM

My guess is he’s got a bunch of sets but doesn’t list them all at once to avoid flooding the market and competing with himself.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:36 PM

They do this all the time with all different brands of irons.....I'll bet they sold 500 sets of Mizuno Easy forged irons for example.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:45 PM

View PostVNutz, on 15 May 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

My guess is he’s got a bunch of sets but doesn’t list them all at once to avoid flooding the market and competing with himself.

I did something similar when I used to sell semi-rare items. When I limited my own auctions more people bid. When there were multiple items up people kind of took their time with things

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:50 PM

Maybe drop ships, and has  a set amount

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:58 PM

I've bought from them and had no issues.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:48 PM

KSouth9 is pretty well known around here with a good reputation.  They're one of a handful of accounts used by a pretty large B&M golf shop that seems to get a lot of liquidation stock.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:12 AM

He’s legit, and he has a ton of inventory. Bought a set of Cleveland wedges new in the wrapper and there were 4 other identical sets selling at the same time I got mine. I verified with Cleveland.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:36 AM

He does this frequently because of the amount of inventory he has.

I wouldn't have any qualms purchasing from him.

On GolfWRX alone, there are many posts spanning years that share positive feedback on him.

For instance, a quick search turns up just a few like these:

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:46 AM

I have bought a number of items from ksouth9 with no issues. Several were as you described (tons of auctions with the same stock photos). If the clubs are brand new from a reputable seller who moves a lot of inventory, I don't think using stock photos is a big deal -- you'd never expect Dick's or Golf Galaxy to post photos of the exact item.

Every item has been exactly as described and 100% authentic (including, for example, iron sets shipping in the manufacturer's box).


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:35 PM

Updating for everyone on the edge of their seats waiting for the story to unfold. I got them today and they look nice. Original packaging and all that. I guess he just has lots of them. Sorry for doubting you ksouth.

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 03:28 AM

Where do they get all those clubs from, he has hundreds if not thousands of M1s

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:02 PM

View PostEricBecu, on 20 May 2018 - 03:28 AM, said:

Where do they get all those clubs from, he has hundreds if not thousands of M1s

TaylorMade?
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 12:25 PM

Because of this thread, I actually ended up ordering a set of these TW737.  Curious how these will compare against my Srixon 765.
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Posted 23 May 2018 - 08:18 PM

Have a set of 737VN en route.


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