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Best Leading edge/sole grind for dry, hard fairways.


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#1 Always_rough

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:29 PM

If there's already been a topic about this posted, my apologies, couldn't find the answer I am looking for in the search bar.

I've been playing the JPX 900 Tours for over a year now, absolutely love the clubs when the conditions are normal. However, as of recent the fairways I've been playing are extremely dry and hard. As a result, I have begun to hate how these clubs interact with the turf. My hands are starting to hurt from taking divots, and I've noticed me thinking more and more about it, causing me to thin shots, throughout the round.

My question is, are the 900Tours designed to have a rounded front edge? And if so, what type of leading edge should I go for, because unfortunately it seems like it's going to be this way for most of the summer. I understand that a lot comes down to AoA, but seem to get a pretty consistent 5-6 degrees down on all my irons. Just absolutely have been hating my clubs as of recent.

Any suggestions on what grinds and or leading edges are designed to cut through thick rough and dry fairway turf without leaving the small little bones in my hands reeling after every shot?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:32 PM

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:48 PM

I think the 900 Tour irons should be about ideal.  There is no reason to take a divot on every shot, just make good contact.  Only other tying to try is something with a sharper leading edge.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:00 PM

 Nessism, on 15 May 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:

I think the 900 Tour irons should be about ideal.  There is no reason to take a divot on every shot, just make good contact.  Only other tying to try is something with a sharper leading edge.

Compared to traditional blades the 900 Tours seem to have a pretty rounded leading edge. Could I get someone to grind them down? Or is this something that has to be done before the clubs are cured or whatever?

I think it's easy to see how little knowledge I have on this subject. I feel like grinding them might change the swing weight, or cause them to rust?

Edited by Always_rough, 15 May 2018 - 09:00 PM.

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(3W) 917 F3
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(4i-PW)    JPX 900 Tour
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:07 PM

I know you're looking for a quick fix, but the only way to fix this is to shallow out a little.

I play one course that, I swear, has bedrock under the first layer of green. Murdered my shoulders. Figured out that I just needed to shallow the path into the ball and it was fine. Move the ball back a little in your stance.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:31 PM

 Hack Daddy, on 15 May 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

I know you're looking for a quick fix, but the only way to fix this is to shallow out a little.

I play one course that, I swear, has bedrock under the first layer of green. Murdered my shoulders. Figured out that I just needed to shallow the path into the ball and it was fine. Move the ball back a little in your stance.

I tried this my last two rounds of golf, and it resulted in more topped balls than I've seen in years. So back to my original question, what irons come stock with a sharper leading edge, or is this always a custom made thing?

I've tried the Srixon's and don't care much for them looks wise. Might wait for they next offering or go for a cheap set of 945's.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:04 PM

Most clubs in this category of irons will have sharper leading edges than the 900 Tours because these have a far more pronounced rolled (aka pre-worn) leading edge than most irons. I think you can literally try most other clubs and find something that fits more closely with what you're looking for. But stay away from the Srixon 765/965. The V sole on those isn't going to work for you.

I also don't agree with those who simply tell you to shallow out. The iron grind doesn't fit your combination of swing and current turf conditions, so don't fight it.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:31 PM

 jll62, on 15 May 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

Most clubs in this category of irons will have sharper leading edges than the 900 Tours because these have a far more pronounced rolled (aka pre-worn) leading edge than most irons. I think you can literally try most other clubs and find something that fits more closely with what you're looking for. But stay away from the Srixon 765/965. The V sole on those isn't going to work for you.

I also don't agree with those who simply tell you to shallow out. The iron grind doesn't fit your combination of swing and current turf conditions, so don't fight it.
Why won't the srixons work?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:09 PM

 wobgon, on 15 May 2018 - 10:31 PM, said:

 jll62, on 15 May 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

Most clubs in this category of irons will have sharper leading edges than the 900 Tours because these have a far more pronounced rolled (aka pre-worn) leading edge than most irons. I think you can literally try most other clubs and find something that fits more closely with what you're looking for. But stay away from the Srixon 765/965. The V sole on those isn't going to work for you.

I also don't agree with those who simply tell you to shallow out. The iron grind doesn't fit your combination of swing and current turf conditions, so don't fight it.
Why won't the srixons work?

Based solely on the OP's comments, I believe he'd find the V sole of the *65 series to have similar playability issues to the 900 Tour.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:59 AM

 jll62, on 15 May 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

Most clubs in this category of irons will have sharper leading edges than the 900 Tours because these have a far more pronounced rolled (aka pre-worn) leading edge than most irons. I think you can literally try most other clubs and find something that fits more closely with what you're looking for. But stay away from the Srixon 765/965. The V sole on those isn't going to work for you.

I also don't agree with those who simply tell you to shallow out. The iron grind doesn't fit your combination of swing and current turf conditions, so don't fight it.

Appreciate the feedback, might just have to wait for the Tiger Prototypes to be finalized.

In the meantime, could I find someone to grind the leading edge for me? Or would I be ruining the club?

Got 14 daggum golf clubs, but none of 'em hit the ball straight.

(1W) M3 440
(3W) 917 F3
(3i)    MP-18 fli hi
(4i-PW)    JPX 900 Tour
(52, 56, 60) SM6
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:44 AM

 Always_rough, on 16 May 2018 - 01:59 AM, said:

 jll62, on 15 May 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

Most clubs in this category of irons will have sharper leading edges than the 900 Tours because these have a far more pronounced rolled (aka pre-worn) leading edge than most irons. I think you can literally try most other clubs and find something that fits more closely with what you're looking for. But stay away from the Srixon 765/965. The V sole on those isn't going to work for you.

I also don't agree with those who simply tell you to shallow out. The iron grind doesn't fit your combination of swing and current turf conditions, so don't fight it.

Appreciate the feedback, might just have to wait for the Tiger Prototypes to be finalized.

In the meantime, could I find someone to grind the leading edge for me? Or would I be ruining the club?

The leading edge already has a significant grind. To remove it, you'd have to grind away much of the sole to bring the leading edge close to the turf. I wouldn't recommend doing that. Find a different set of irons if this is truly a problem.

I'm not sure how Tiger prototypes come into play here. As I mentioned above, almost any other blade or players CB on the market will play with a leading edge that sits closer to the turf than the 900 Tours. Just go demo some different options.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:18 AM

Sharper leading edge is going to cause OP  to go from hand issues to shoulder issues. Shallow. Out. Your. Swing.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:59 PM

 Hack Daddy, on 16 May 2018 - 11:18 AM, said:

Sharper leading edge is going to cause OP  to go from hand issues to shoulder issues. Shallow. Out. Your. Swing.

So the average for tour pro's is around 3-4 degrees. Is one degree really going to make that much of a difference? My natural swing is like this, has been for years. I came here asking for club advice, not swing advice.
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(4i-PW)    JPX 900 Tour
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:25 PM

Blades. Grab a set of old Titleist 710 mb or Mizuno MP 33 or something cheap and try them.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:26 AM

Grinding down the leading edge will result in issues with the chrome of the plating. It will eventually rust under the chrome and the chrome will come of, get small cracks or will look like blooming rust underneath. That's all just optical. If you don't mind these issues, you can definitely have someone grind the leading edge straighter and flatten out the sole. You will loose some weight, but it shouldn't be more than 3-5 gr. Nothing, that can't be fixed with lead tape.

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