Aha Moment--Loading Lag/Float Loading
Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:06 PM
Thatís not really true. It is certainly true that right wrist extension, however you get it, gives the ďlagged lookĒ especially face on. This has been fairly common knowledge amongst good teachers for awhile. However, you absolutely can keep the left wrist radially deviated to get the lagged look too. You need to match up the UD of left wrist to the supination of left forearm. That is the hard part.
Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:17 AM
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:17 PM
An easy way to eliminate confusion and contradiction.
Good tips! I need to work on this.
Posted 18 May 2018 - 02:59 AM
A truer word never spoken!
All these poor golfers trying to copy Ben Hogan, holding lag like Sergio, trying to be picture perfect like Adam scott, everyone has a natural swing, just make improvements to that rather than trying to do a completely different swing.
Nick Faldo is a prime example, can anyone else practice 10 hours every day for 2 to 3 years? because thats how long it took him to change his swing
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:40 AM
Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:31 AM
I disagree. Youíll know float loading if/when you feel it - with loose wrists, let the momentum of the clubhead during the backswing help set the wrists, then start back down before theyíre set fully. Can be done/felt from tiny chips up to full swings.
What youíre talking about is the 2D optical illusion of > 90 lag when a shallow shaft and deep left arm are viewed from a FO angle. That can happen with or without float loading.
Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:04 PM
That's not really true. It is certainly true that right wrist extension, however you get it, gives the "lagged look" especially face on. This has been fairly common knowledge amongst good teachers for awhile. However, you absolutely can keep the left wrist radially deviated to get the lagged look too. You need to match up the UD of left wrist to the supination of left forearm. That is the hard part.
What Golfbeat is referring to is taught by Dana Dahlquist. Look into it and ask yourself why Dana moved on from a S&T and MORAD influenced teaching to what he is currently teaching. This old fella here demonstrates what Golfbeat is referring to. He releases the left radial deviation early and bows the left (flexion), which flattens the shaft in combination with rotation and results in shaft lean without flipping. Note that the student rotates a lot and tries not to release the left arm of the chest. It stays pinned longer.
I think you missed my point. Golfbeatís categorical statement that lag or whatever you want to call it is created by releasing the RD in the left wrist and keeping the right wrist in extension as opposed to any other way just isnít correct. That is a way to do it, but itís not like the secret or anything. I will give you this, if you are a beginner in understanding the golf swing, which it appears that you and golfbeat may be, the realization that you can get lag without the RD in the left wrist is very important for a greater understanding. But beyond beginners, I assume everyone knew this as itís common knowledge among every good instructor. Sure, most of the trash on YouTube doesnít understand this, but thatís because itís trash.
IMO in general ďgetting shaft lean without flippingĒ is pretty easy if you have some amount of golf talent. For others, itís pretty much impossible and itís not something that you are gonna be able to learn. So I think searching for that goal is kind of pointless if youíve played for awhile and havenít been able to achieve it. You can play very good golf without much shaft lean and with a minor flip, there are other things that could more easily be improved to make you better. If you have a scratch or better and still not doing it, then it may be worth looking into to get you to the next level.
And finally, if any of these videos (didnít watch that one but Iím sure if Dana made it itís fine) are advocating holding the right wrist back, then run, donít walk, elsewhere. Thatís pretty much guaranteed to make you flip a lot and kills all your speed. Itís just as bad if not worse than holding the lag by keeping the RD in left wrist.
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