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#1 Markrobert1980

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:18 AM

Hey

Played a match at my club the other night and the guy I was playing was using a chipper round the green. I've only been playing proper for two years but I found it strange more seeing than using I suppose.

Has anyone used this club in medals or club comps.


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#2 kozubs

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:29 AM

Don't see it often but sometimes I'll see it in a seniors bag.  Never in a tournament.  I'm pretty sure that most chippers are illegal since they have alignment aids but I may be wrong.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:31 AM

Never treat a golfer with a chipper with contempt.  They're like a con man.  You spot the club and you look down on them until it is too late.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:37 AM

View Postkozubs, on 15 May 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

Don't see it often but sometimes I'll see it in a seniors bag.  Never in a tournament.  I'm pretty sure that most chippers are illegal since they have alignment aids but I may be wrong.

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#5 Markrobert1980

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:39 AM

I had no issues with him using it, was just strange seeing it used I thought he was putting till I seen the face.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:48 AM

View Postsui generis, on 15 May 2018 - 07:37 AM, said:

View Postkozubs, on 15 May 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

Don't see it often but sometimes I'll see it in a seniors bag.  Never in a tournament.  I'm pretty sure that most chippers are illegal since they have alignment aids but I may be wrong.

You're correct . . . you're wrong.

What are the rules?   Never mind, I checked.

The USGA site says no appendages for alignment.  I had Read that wrong.  Also cant be double faced or have a putter grip.  

I really don't care if someone uses one.  My dad plays with one and he's deadly with it.  I've seen him use it 75 yards out.  If it makes the game more enjoyable for people, I'm all for it.  A double faced chipper would be very handy when stuck by a tree.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:11 AM

They were popular in the old days, which was way way back for me. However I found they had the loft o f seven iron so I started with a choked down seven and eventually moved up to 8 and so on until I was using the PW or the wedge, depending on How far the hole was from where I was.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:21 AM

Shambles how did you find choking down on the 7i. Why don't more players use them.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:26 AM

Ive contemplated getting one myself but ive also been putting in a lot of hours with my wedges in practice and have learned to love my 50 degree. Its cut a few strokes from my game for sure.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:31 AM

My father used to use a "Texas Wedge" that I still have hanging on a wall in my den. It has the loft of about a 4I, no grooves, a brass head no higher than maybe an 1 1/4" that he was deadly with! If I wanted to use it today I'd have to get it re-gripped as it has a grip that is illegal these days.


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#11 Markrobert1980

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:39 AM

It was a blessing for me cause it helped me hit better shots as he was putting shots close with it. Pity I struggle to hit good shots round the green now.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:42 AM

I have one but haven't used it for several years. You might as well just learn how to chip and save yourself a slot in your bag for something else. But I'll say one thing in its favour - if you need to use a golf club as a weapon you can't get much better than a chipper. It has a fairly short shaft so easy to manoeuvre in a tight space and not unwieldy, it's one of the heavier clubs so good momentum, it has quite a sharp edge (two edges if you have an illegal one so you can catch your victim on the back swing) which means good penetration.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:46 AM

😂😂😂😂

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:37 AM

I have a guy in my office who uses hit putter on everything inside 100 yards.  I'm not kidding.

He should get one of these.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:57 AM

Putter from 100 yards in WHAT...... 😂😂😂😂


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:25 PM

Waste of a spot in the bag.  Learn to use a different club.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:41 PM

Father-in-law used to play with one of those clubs. He was very, very, very good with that club. I always gave him crap for using it.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:35 PM

I tried one about 20 years ago and it seemed to work fine but I suppose I got a bit more proficient with my irons.  I see nothing wrong or against the rules about it and if it helps some people that is fine.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:39 PM

View PostNJpatbee, on 15 May 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

I tried one about 20 years ago and it seemed to work fine but I suppose I got a bit more proficient with my irons.  I see nothing wrong or against the rules about it and if it helps some people that is fine.

Well hello!!

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:43 AM

View PostMarkrobert1980, on 15 May 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

Putter from 100 yards in WHAT...... ��������
We were playing a scramble one time.  We were 110 out to a tucked pin behind a bunker over a hill.  No chance to get close unless you landed perfect on the top of the hill.  I said "Well Doug, what are you going to do, You can't hit your putter on this one"  he Said "Bull #$@# I can't".  Whacks it down the fairway at the bunker.  Just before it goes in the bunker it hits the plastic cart sign.  Bounces over the bunker and piles into the hill and looses all its energy just enough to trickle over the hill.  We get up to the green and he was 1.5 ft away.  He looks at me and said "see I told you I could do it.".


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:34 AM

Every time this comes up it reminds me of Paul Runyan "putting with loft". If you haven't seen the video and you struggle around the greens it's well worth a look.

https://www.youtube....h?v=PEcuqPF1DM8

Runyan won the PGA Championship in 1934 and 1938 when it had a match play format. In 1938 he beat Sam Snead 11and 7 in the 36 hole final (largest margin ever in the event) despite Snead regularly out-driving him by 100yds. Some short game!

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

View PostShrinkwr4p, on 16 May 2018 - 10:34 AM, said:

Every time this comes up it reminds me of Paul Runyan "putting with loft". If you haven't seen the video and you struggle around the greens it's well worth a look.

https://www.youtube....h?v=PEcuqPF1DM8

Runyan won the PGA Championship in 1934 and 1938 when it had a match play format. In 1938 he beat Sam Snead 11and 7 in the 36 hole final (largest margin ever in the event) despite Snead regularly out-driving him by 100yds. Some short game!

Runyan's short game method is arguably the most enduring way of teaching the short game in the history of golf.  Many, many teaching pros pass it along, in one form or another, to golfers of all skill levels.  It's simple, easily learned, and it works.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:11 AM

I've seen those before. Even played a couple rounds with one. Once I put a hybrid in the bag I never found the need for one. I chip more traditionally now. But on occasion I'll use the hybrid to chip if I have a lot of green to work with.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:37 PM

View PostMarkrobert1980, on 15 May 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Shambles how did you find choking down on the 7i. Why don't more players use them.

I was pretty much a cheapskate back then. Lack of money does that to people. It didn't bother me that I was using a club that I already had and the look was ok too. Of course, I'm talking about old sets.

The choke makes the club a bit more upright and a lot easier to also chip and punt with, even simulate a putt. It all worked in my favor after a bit of practice, and the look did not bother me at all.



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:51 PM

Ive tried a chipper club but the Runyan method works better for me. Took awhile to iron out the 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 4 to 1 etc etc but it has become second nature to the point where its become feel. I will say that for me, wide sole game enhancer irons dont work nearly as well as a thinner (dare I say) blade type iron/wedge. Probably technique more than anything but for me, they dont work.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:55 PM

My Dad had one the was around a 5 iron loft, but the length of a putter. He used it to get out of trouble or from under a tree as well as around the green. I saw him hit punch and run from 180-200 yards out. I can still see the look on his face when I told him that I lost it.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:08 AM

Heard of the runyan method teaching pro has a video on it. I'll find it link here. More upright shaft and hit it with the toe.

Never expected as much replies about the chipper but seems to be used now and again. The guy still uses it and shot a 78 off of 17 handicap par 69 so a big cut for him.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:34 AM

I bought an old chipper a few years ago out of a barrel at a Play-it-Again.  I think I paid a dollar or three.  It's unlike any chipper I have seen.  It has a brass head, no grooves, rounded sole, and rounded leading edge.  I developed the yips a few years ago and this club literally kept me from quitting the game.  I've gone back to using more normal pitching and chipping methods.  I will never get rid of my chipper though.  I'd put it back in the bag in a heartbeat if I thought I needed to.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:13 PM

View PostMarkrobert1980, on 17 May 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

Heard of the runyan method teaching pro has a video on it. I'll find it link here. More upright shaft and hit it with the toe.

Never expected as much replies about the chipper but seems to be used now and again. The guy still uses it and shot a 78 off of 17 handicap par 69 so a big cut for him.

The Runyan method is more about the concept of getting the ball rolling on the green asap, and using a variety of clubs to accomplish that; the club you use is based on a ratio of carry to roll.  Runyan called it the Rule of 11; it's been adjusted to be the Rule of 12 as clubs have become less lofted over the years.  Brian Manzella has a great video on it.

Lots of people on this site just freak out when you use the word "Rule", which of course is just a defense mechanism to protect the weird idea (at least to me! :) ) that somehow amateur golfers will do better if they use one club and lots of different strokes than if they use one stroke and lots of different clubs  But what Runyan first devised 80 or so years ago and it's stood the test of time quite nicely, and I've never really come across a teaching pro who doesn't teach some variety of it, whether they call it that or not.

As to the chipper itself, I used to see every now and then; don't think I've seen one in years now.  I think the idea is a 6 iron with a LOT of bounce, and I get that.  It's just that most people aren't going to want to use one of their 14 spots for a specialty club like that when they already have something of that loft.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:24 PM

Im a 2 handicap and use a Cleveland chipper off and on for years.

Its my main weakness. Ive battled some....issues at impact chipping. Hundreds of hours of practice sometimes cant fix a yippy impact move. People who say oh just work on it really have zero clue most of the time haha.

With that club I can just putt it easy peasy and simplify the move.

Scorecard doesnt care whats in my bag.



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