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Nippon's prototype Graphite on Steel shafts - shot @ 2018 AT&T Byron Nelson


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#1 GolfWRX

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:13 AM

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:22 PM

Is this an attempt to minimize vibration, while still maintaining the weight and flex characteristics of steel?
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:23 PM

schwwwwwwaaaaaaat

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:23 PM

Would like to know more...
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:29 PM

I need this in a driving iron like yesterday

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:31 PM

Interesting. Reminds me of a reversed Grafalloy Epic. The outer tubing made of nickel and the innner layer made of carbon.

Edited by baudi, 14 May 2018 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:50 PM

gimmie!!!
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:52 PM

Love Nippon!! :)
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:32 PM

Puts Batsignal on SOS mode to signal back channels to shoot one of these my way .....  Agree with the above.This has 2 iron written all over it
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:36 PM

Finally found a shaft for my driving iron or Id be all over this in a TX.  Need these for irons though!

Edited by Rosco1216, 14 May 2018 - 01:36 PM.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:47 PM

So... a hybrid shaft for hybrid clubs?

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I'm pretty much sold.

Edited by nova6868, 14 May 2018 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:03 PM

Don't ask me...first I've heard of them.

Can assume 105 and 120 profiles there. (ST = 105, DP = 120.)

Love the matte black stealth look. I'm absolutely loving this E11 proto I put in a 3i. But I'd still give these a try. Hybrid10 .350" X-flex ST please! Unless there is a tour125 version...??
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:05 PM

Is this to compete with the Aerorech Steelfibers?
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:15 PM

Are they merely prototypes? This is not a new idea and never caught on before.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:16 PM

yes and thank you.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:31 PM

View Postgioguy21, on 14 May 2018 - 12:23 PM, said:

schwwwwwwaaaaaaat

Bi-Matrix is back!!!

Edited by mister2cool, 14 May 2018 - 02:31 PM.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 04:31 PM

I wonder if the graphite is used to strengthen the surface to reduce weakness and resulting head lag.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 04:35 PM

View PostPeanut191, on 14 May 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is this to compete with the Aerorech Steelfibers?


Doubt that as they are for hybrids as labeled.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:48 PM

I dunno, just looks like someone stuck a steel shaft extender in the back of a graphite shaft.  Bad club-making if you ask me.... :busted2:

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:57 PM

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 14 May 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

I wonder if the graphite is used to strengthen the surface to reduce weakness and resulting head lag.

Along with creating the right profile, Almost certain the graphite is used to strengthen the steel.

I'm not an engineer but I have worked with a lot of shaft companies and designers. Graphite strength to weight ratio is WAY higher than steel, So with steel they can create the profile they are looking for in the hybrid shaft at a "lighter" weight with the steel and then reinforce the overall length of the shaft with layers of graphite.

This isnt the first time they have dome something like this. At one point they made the 750 and I used to work with it a lot! super light weight steel shaft with a reinforce top section from under the grip to about 30% of the way down. Since the wall thinkness was so small this helped give it some strength. but allowed them to still use the light weight steel alloy.

Interesting to see who these are meant for!

Edited by tobybear, 14 May 2018 - 08:57 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:10 PM

I absolutely LOVE my Modus 105s but I would give them up in a heart beat for a set of matte black Nippons.  Please bring these to market!
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:27 PM

Thats a steel shaft sprayed with some Flex Seal.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:31 AM

They should have called it GHOST

Graphite Hybrid On Steel Technology

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:32 AM

I'm curious, that finish is really nice

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:38 AM

Wow, love the look. Very intrigued. Any more information available?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:11 AM

This could be the anti-left hybrid shaft everyone has been waiting for.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:37 AM

Color me confused for now. Will be interesting to see Nippon's commentary assuming these move beyond proto and into production.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:56 AM

View Postxxio, on 15 May 2018 - 01:31 AM, said:

They should have called it GHOST

Graphite Hybrid On Steel Technology

Agreed! Call it GHOST unless taylormade has that name on lockdown still.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:35 AM

Nippon did something similar years ago, but the graphite layer was only on part of the steel shaft. And it was very lightweight.

http://nipponshaft.c...t/steel_750.php

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:49 AM

Interesting.  New twist on Fujikura's MCI iron shafts.

Steel core and grahite exterior as well. The Steel core is a smaller diamerter on the Fuji's however and it doesn't run the entire length of the shaft.

https://fujikuragolf.com/irons/mci/

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