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#1 golfer929

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:53 AM

In your mind, what specific shot or thought process separates a good player vs. an okay player.

In other words, what specific shot makes you think “Man, this guy/girl can play!”

IMO, I think a good indicator is the ability to hit a good lob shot or hit a flighted iron shot in the wind


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:55 AM

GIR
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:07 PM

^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:07 PM

score/handicap.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:08 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 14 May 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

score/handicap.

What score/handicap do you look for?


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:08 PM

How do you measure yourself against other golfers?

By height........
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:09 PM

Not attempting a fruitless hero shot.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:12 PM

View Postgolfer929, on 14 May 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 14 May 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

score/handicap.

What score/handicap do you look for?

Depends...
Great
Good
Okay
Average
Sucky
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Duffer?
Beginner
Pro
PGA pro
Mini tour pro
it's all relative.

I don't think of things in terms of Good vs. Okay...what does it matter?..I ask..what is your handicap?  thats all I need to know.  If they don't have one I ask "what is your best score this year?"  We then negotiate bets and play golf.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:14 PM

View PostFade to Black, on 14 May 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

GIR
What if they can't putt?  That's almost 1/2 the game.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:15 PM

Consistent center strike combined with decent direction control.  The center strike pretty much guarantees distance control.  Add direction control and you got a playa.

Us hackers are all over the club face so distance is a crap shoot.  I get a kick out of my buddies watch showing a 5 yard difference to the pin from my cell phone and him thinking that makes one bit of friggin' difference to us.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:15 PM

View Postllamont, on 14 May 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down
what if you are good at one and not the other?
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:18 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 14 May 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

View Postllamont, on 14 May 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down
what if you are good at one and not the other?

Then I guess that could be a viable difference between “good” and “okay...”
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:18 PM

1) Consistency.
2) How bad is your bad.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:21 PM

Shape and trajectory control of their approach shots

Edit: or a very repeatable stock shot. Since there are many who choose not to change their shape/trajectory.

Edited by HiSpeed48, 14 May 2018 - 12:26 PM.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:27 PM

Great directional control on full swings.
Great distance control on short game.
Unyielding, consistent rhythm.
A mistake costs a stroke and that's it.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:36 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 14 May 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View PostFade to Black, on 14 May 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

GIR
What if they can't putt?  That's almost 1/2 the game.
True. But I've not come across too many players who are hitting lots of GIR that can't putt.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:37 PM

The correct answer is still your score.  


different ways to get it done.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:39 PM

View PostFade to Black, on 14 May 2018 - 12:36 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 14 May 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View PostFade to Black, on 14 May 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

GIR
What if they can't putt?  That's almost 1/2 the game.
True. But I've not come across too many players who are hitting lots of GIR that can't putt.

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Yes, he is a great player, but relative to the tour he is just okay....if he could putt he would be top 5.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:54 PM

I think you need to define it more than good vs. ok. To me good is low single digit but to others it might be different. I would say an ok player can hit greens, a good player can control what part of the green they hit.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:34 PM

View PostTLUBulldogGolf, on 14 May 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

I think you need to define it more than good vs. ok. To me good is low single digit but to others it might be different. I would say an ok player can hit greens, a good player can control what part of the green they hit.

I agree that you have to define good vs. ok.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:38 PM

to me - it comes down to scrambling (including bunker play), FIRs and GIRs. putting is iffy at times for even the best - but hitting 50% fairways or more, or over 50% of greens and getting up and down at least 50% of the time makes you a good golfer in my eyes.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:54 PM

GIR and ability to get up and down from a variety of locations are 2 decent indicators

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:24 PM

A good player has already thought the hole from pin placement back to determine what part of the fairway he is aiming for. An OK player is aiming for the fairway.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:28 PM

The ability to hit it badly and score to, or even under their handicap. And the amount of close approaches they hit.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:44 PM

You said 'in your mind', so, let's take a 180 yd. par 3, only instead of a green at the end, there's a barn. An Ok golfer can't hit the broadside of the barn most of the time. A good player can not only hit the broadside of the barn, but pretty much hit it most of the time.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:51 PM

 chippa13, on 14 May 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

A good player has already thought the hole from pin placement back to determine what part of the fairway he is aiming for. An OK player is aiming for the fairway.

I feel like this is high level player vs good player. I rarely think about what side of the fairway I want to hit, I would maybe on the most position based golf courses. And I would consider myself a pretty good player..

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:59 PM

OK - 2 or more double bogeys per 18 holes
GOOD - 0-1 double bogey per 18 holes

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:11 PM

Well after reading the replies I got lost.  So I read the OP again.
Swing thoughts...

The Good player---- play my miss so that it can be managed.



The ok player---- Aim for the flag regardless of trouble


Shots

Good player ----45 feet radius of target from 150 yards

Ok player 70 feet radius of target from 150 yards

I dont care how the ball flight looks if its a repeatable distance then it wrx for me.


4th edit...head scratcher

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:15 PM

I'm at a point in my life I appreciate the company I keep on the course as opposed to how skilled a player is.  Don't get me wrong, I still love playing with excellent players.  As for myself, maybe my best golf, or potential, just may be behind me now.  I am still aspiring to get back to scratch and believe this is a realistic possibility.  Currently I am an OK player, one with potential and he ability to hit several very good shots in a round.  I can putt well and my short game is getting better and better.  I used to be a great player then became a good player.  I'm working on shaking off the rust from my game.  More importantly I am trying to act in a manner that is honerable and exhibits integrity.   Honor, integrity, respect, exhibiting graciousness and class is what means more to me thank my skills.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:17 PM

 Ferguson, on 14 May 2018 - 02:59 PM, said:

OK - 2 or more double bogeys per 18 holes
GOOD - 0-1 double bogey per 18 holes

Wouldn't that be subjective to the quality of the course a golfer plays?

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