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Jason Dufner’s Irons at The Players


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#31 FairwayFred

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:50 PM

View Postsandy, on 14 May 2018 - 07:48 PM, said:

Every muscle back shape Iíve seen pictures of looks just like head choices you could chose from the MacGregor Custom Catalog vintage 1960-1970s when they were in Cincinnati..

Great to see our client on Tour play so well this past weekend!

We can turn those flatback raw heads into LITERALLY ANY muscle shape.

Here's a few pics of muscles that are a little less MacGregor inspired.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:01 PM

View Postkeithrichards, on 14 May 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 14 May 2018 - 10:48 AM, said:

His ballstriking was phenomenal on Sunday! On the other hand, his putting...yikes.

That 3 footer he had on 18? That stroke looked like me at 8am the day after SERIOUS Drinking.

Yea that was rough.  I read that 3 putt cost him $450k+ and a crazy amount of Ryder cup and fedex points.  Iím a Duf fan, hope he keeps playing well.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:05 PM

View Postsandy, on 14 May 2018 - 07:48 PM, said:

Every muscle back shape I've seen pictures of looks just like head choices you could chose from the MacGregor Custom Catalog vintage 1960-1970s when they were in Cincinnati..

They make what a customer wants them to make.

Mine were Hogan inspired, first ones pictured above, and weren't made the way Ari or Don "wanted"them made or anyone suggesting anything about any particular style, but were designed with what I wanted to see in mind, with Ari's input/help and getting the design down and Don doing the rest - I doubt anyone is looking at those irons and thinking Jack played them, but many may look at them and see echoes of some famous Hogan styles.

Honestly, doesn't matter to me what others/you "see" - I see exactly what I was hoping for and they are unique and pretty incredible to me, which is what matters. I hope others appreciate the quality of the workmanship and what it takes to bring a customer's wishes to fruition, what more is there?

Edited by Hawkeye77, 14 May 2018 - 09:06 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:54 PM

Guess the Duffner inspired putter line is on hold?

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:59 PM

View PostForeleft, on 14 May 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

Guess the Duffner inspired putter line is on hold?

Too soon, dude.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:00 PM

Dear lord those iron pics are awesome....  Love the simplicity of them all.  Whats an average price for a custom set of these bad boys?
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:04 PM

View PostHawkeye77, on 14 May 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 14 May 2018 - 07:48 PM, said:

Every muscle back shape I've seen pictures of looks just like head choices you could chose from the MacGregor Custom Catalog vintage 1960-1970s when they were in Cincinnati..

They make what a customer wants them to make.

Mine were Hogan inspired, first ones pictured above, and weren't made the way Ari or Don "wanted"them made or anyone suggesting anything about any particular style, but were designed with what I wanted to see in mind, with Ari's input/help and getting the design down and Don doing the rest - I doubt anyone is looking at those irons and thinking Jack played them, but many may look at them and see echoes of some famous Hogan styles.

Honestly, doesn't matter to me what others/you "see" - I see exactly what I was hoping for and they are unique and pretty incredible to me, which is what matters. I hope others appreciate the quality of the workmanship and what it takes to bring a customer's wishes to fruition, what more is there?

now thats a sweet looking set Hawk.... an easy 10 out of 0..
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:12 PM

Wow, nailed it.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:19 PM

Dufner on his putting.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:30 PM

View Postgrm24, on 14 May 2018 - 10:19 PM, said:


Great looking irons.  Re: his putting - he's right.  Everyone remembers one crappy putt.  He finished 3rd in SG putting for the week.  Not bad Duff.  His headwear is also quite amazing.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:41 PM

View Postbeluga99, on 14 May 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

View Postgrm24, on 14 May 2018 - 10:19 PM, said:


Great looking irons.  Re: his putting - he's right.  Everyone remembers one crappy putt.  He finished 3rd in SG putting for the week.  Not bad Duff.  His headwear is also quite amazing.
The irons are sweet looking and his head wear has been strong this year. It would be great if Dufner found an old school Amana that there were all over the PGA Tour in the late 70's and early 80's. Dufner is catching for flak for his putting on 18 that the can do no wrong Mr Spieth isn't.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:13 AM

How does a thread about Dufner’s irons turn into all these Sunday hackers knocking Dufner’s putting. Great work by Patrick, Ari, and Don!!

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:46 AM

My favorite thing about Duf's irons from NCW are the specs:
  • PW 48º
  • 9i 44º
  • 8i 40º
  • 7i 36º
  • 6i 32º
  • 5i 28º
  • 4i 23º
This setup jives with what I see on the course. Short irons go too far, creating big gaps on the scoring end of the bag, and long iron gaps are too compressed, creating a less efficient club selection scenario on longer shots.

In particular, the 5º jump from the 5i to the 4i makes perfect sense to me, as a typical 4i must be flushed to provide any real benefit over a 5i. In Duf's case, the 5º gap creates a very clear distinction between 4i and 5i and also makes the 4i a viable option for hitting bullets off the tee.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:19 AM

Love to see an answer to two members' question about cost.  Is that a secret?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:31 AM

View Posttrgolfer02, on 15 May 2018 - 05:13 AM, said:

How does a thread about Dufner’s irons turn into all these Sunday hackers knocking Dufner’s putting. Great work by Patrick, Ari, and Don!!
Especially when he was third in strokes gained putting for the week, but whatever. And yes wonderful work by the national custom crew, really wish I wasn't a poor unemployed student when they released those lefties but eventually I'll get myself a set.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:11 AM

View PostHawkeye77, on 14 May 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 14 May 2018 - 07:48 PM, said:

Every muscle back shape I've seen pictures of looks just like head choices you could chose from the MacGregor Custom Catalog vintage 1960-1970s when they were in Cincinnati..

They make what a customer wants them to make.

Mine were Hogan inspired, first ones pictured above, and weren't made the way Ari or Don "wanted"them made or anyone suggesting anything about any particular style, but were designed with what I wanted to see in mind, with Ari's input/help and getting the design down and Don doing the rest - I doubt anyone is looking at those irons and thinking Jack played them, but many may look at them and see echoes of some famous Hogan styles.

Honestly, doesn't matter to me what others/you "see" - I see exactly what I was hoping for and they are unique and pretty incredible to me, which is what matters. I hope others appreciate the quality of the workmanship and what it takes to bring a customer's wishes to fruition, what more is there?

Nice irons, kind of 94 Ft Worth Apex inspiration? Enjoy them!

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:16 AM

View Post76mpg, on 15 May 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

View PostHawkeye77, on 14 May 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 14 May 2018 - 07:48 PM, said:

Every muscle back shape I've seen pictures of looks just like head choices you could chose from the MacGregor Custom Catalog vintage 1960-1970s when they were in Cincinnati..

They make what a customer wants them to make.

Mine were Hogan inspired, first ones pictured above, and weren't made the way Ari or Don "wanted"them made or anyone suggesting anything about any particular style, but were designed with what I wanted to see in mind, with Ari's input/help and getting the design down and Don doing the rest - I doubt anyone is looking at those irons and thinking Jack played them, but many may look at them and see echoes of some famous Hogan styles.

Honestly, doesn't matter to me what others/you "see" - I see exactly what I was hoping for and they are unique and pretty incredible to me, which is what matters. I hope others appreciate the quality of the workmanship and what it takes to bring a customer's wishes to fruition, what more is there?

Nice irons, kind of 94 Ft Worth Apex inspiration? Enjoy them!

Thanks!  And yes, I picked up some of those on eBay a couple summers ago and inspired by those and the "Redlines" probably equally, right on.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:29 AM

View Postjuststeve, on 15 May 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

Love to see an answer to two members' question about cost.  Is that a secret?

Steve
It varies depending on the heads we use to complete your project.

Please email either me (patrick@nationalcustomworks.com) or Ari (ari@nationalcustomworks.com) to discuss.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:01 PM

View PostNational Custom Works, on 15 May 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

View Postjuststeve, on 15 May 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

Love to see an answer to two members' question about cost.  Is that a secret?

Steve
It varies depending on the heads we use to complete your project.

Please email either me (patrick@nationalcustomworks.com) or Ari (ari@nationalcustomworks.com) to discuss.

is there a range for standard set of MBs?


btw, the pictures above look amazing.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:27 PM

Nice!


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:15 PM

MacGregor PMB circa 2001 inspiration?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:09 PM

Pulled out my scratch don white irons today to compare them to my new big oem blades. Now I remember how good they felt and how well the sole grind fit me. Need to get a new set made. Would love to see players start using smaller companies and custom clubs again.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:08 PM

Great looking irons, and great front page story on the relationship with Dufner... awesome to see more boutique companies getting their fair play on the PGA Tour
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:22 PM

View PostNational Custom Works, on 15 May 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

View Postjuststeve, on 15 May 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

Love to see an answer to two members' question about cost.  Is that a secret?

Steve
It varies depending on the heads we use to complete your project.

Please email either me (patrick@nationalcustomworks.com) or Ari (ari@nationalcustomworks.com) to discuss.

Patrick-

Thanks again for the interviews, and the club work in 2012-



Am glad to see you, Ari, and Don White got things worked out, and are still at it...

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:22 AM

National.

Great piece on how Dufner's irons came to be.  http://www.golfwrx.com/514554/the-story-behind-jason-dufners-new-national-custom-works-irons/
Can you expand on how the sole design was having so much influence on his performance.

Also how low can the weight be reduced on say the 8-LW?  Think single lengthish but not all the same.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:01 AM

i would love a set of what i would call bullet back? that along the with the vfoil'ish muscle are some of my fav designs.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:07 AM

View Postrybo, on 16 May 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Also how low can the weight be reduced on say the 8-LW?  Think single lengthish but not all the same.
Patrick says somewhere in this thread (http://www.golfwrx.c...fficial-thread/) that each head has about 150 grams of extra weight, so blanks will probably range from 400 gram (3 iron) to 450 gram (wedge) so that leaves plenty of weight to be taken of to get each head the right weight (unless of course you are aiming for an R8 to T4 swingweight ;-)

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:24 PM

View PostNational Custom Works, on 15 May 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

View Postjuststeve, on 15 May 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

Love to see an answer to two members' question about cost.  Is that a secret?

Steve
It varies depending on the heads we use to complete your project.

Please email either me (patrick@nationalcustomworks.com) or Ari (ari@nationalcustomworks.com) to discuss.

How does the process work? Do clients come to you and go through a fitting or how do you get the specs etc, such as picking out that Duf needed a different sole? And, since it is primarily about the heads do you pair that with say an existing shaft in a clients irons to determine weight etc?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:07 PM

Would love a set of these irons and wedges, they are beautiful.  Really hitting my Srixon blades well now though.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:43 AM

View Postpearsonified, on 15 May 2018 - 08:46 AM, said:

My favorite thing about Duf's irons from NCW are the specs:
  • PW 48º
  • 9i 44º
  • 8i 40º
  • 7i 36º
  • 6i 32º
  • 5i 28º
  • 4i 23º
This setup jives with what I see on the course. Short irons go too far, creating big gaps on the scoring end of the bag, and long iron gaps are too compressed, creating a less efficient club selection scenario on longer shots.

In particular, the 5º jump from the 5i to the 4i makes perfect sense to me, as a typical 4i must be flushed to provide any real benefit over a 5i. In Duf's case, the 5º gap creates a very clear distinction between 4i and 5i and also makes the 4i a viable option for hitting bullets off the tee.

And as if there was ever a doubt—I am going to copy this loft gapping in a future set.

That's basically exactly what I have going on in my bag for that exact reason. Spending the time to determine gapping based on lofts was a huge factor in putting together a bag that worked best for me. That and having the more traditional lofts was nice to not have to need a bag with 5 or 6 wedges in it.

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