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Suggestions on replacing a 20yr old set of Taylormade 300 irons


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#1 Confused of London

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:27 PM

Hi guys, just wanted to pick the forumís considerable brains on current iron sets.

Currently playing a set of forged Taylormade 300 series. Theyíve served me well over the years but Iím thinking of upgrading and whilst I have no expectation of radical improvement through an equipment change, my teaching pro has suggested that new set might help, if only in terms of slightly greater forgiveness and distance (the latter likely through stronger lofts).

Key considerations for me are feel (used to the relative/perceived softness of forged clubs) and looks (not a fan of thick top lines but, at the same time, prefer a slightly longer blade length). No real opinion on Ďworkabilityí (suggests greater dispersion on mishits to me), brand loyalty or cost (as if theyíre worth it, theyíll last a long time like my current set).

Would prefer a club that tends to launch a little lower as Iím a little flippy as a player and tend to hit it higher than is preferable. Anything that might improve compression/smash factor (if thatís even possible through technology) would also be welcome.

In regards to stuff that might help, apart from being a bit flippy with my hands through impact and with a high launch, Iím a tall player (6ft 5) with decent club head speed (94mph for a 7iron). Currently have Dynamic Gold S300 shafts in my irons and think I prefer heavier clubs in terms of swing weight (but could be talking arse there).

Will go to a club fitter for the final say but would welcome any and every thoughts on clubs as I donít have a clue and it will help narrow down a short list.

Thanks.

Edited by Confused of London, 15 May 2018 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:24 PM

Srixon 565 with X100's. Thank me later ;)

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:35 PM

Bogey, he said launch lower...

Try the 900f, you will enjoy the feel and flight!  If you want to stay with a little smaller profile, I would pick up a set of the XTD Forged, they can be had on the cheap and are a great option as well.

Edit, I forgot one other option that shouldnt be overlooked....Hogan PTx Irons!

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:03 AM

Forged Tec Black from Cobra....but it has a thick top line

TM 770?

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 06:13 AM

I'd say stick with the TM 300s, but with your height and swing speed, I think a fitting would be a great idea. As for club recommendations, just try lots. I think a heavier shaft will help you launch low; for example, the S300/200s fly high for me, whereas X100s produce a ball flight I like.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 06:43 AM

Boy, it sure seems like you just described the JPX 900 Tours.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 06:43 AM

iBlades, MP18SC/900T, Apex X forged 18, AP2s are good places to start.
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:14 AM

View Postbogey69, on 13 May 2018 - 07:24 PM, said:

Srixon 565 with X100's. Thank me later ;)

(not a fan of thick top lines but, at the same time, prefer a slightly longer blade length)

You got all excited on recommending your favorite clubs and didn't read what he wanted. Golfers are passionate if nothing else. ;)

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:34 AM

Ask your teaching pro.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:38 AM

You'll probably want a smaller CB or even a blade if you strike well. a SGI/GI style iron will launch higher, loft for loft, than a smaller blade style head will. P750's or Callaway Xforged are worth a look. If you can handle it... MP18 blades are always going to be a winner.

You'll probably be a decent fit for X100s, but also check out Nippon 130's.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:49 PM

Thanks, guys. Some helpful suggestions here.

I have heard great things about the Srixtons but their availability over here in the UK isnít the best, although itís by no means a non-starter. Not sure about the Hogans on that front, however.

JPX900s are a funny one. Obviously need a closer look but having had a glance a weeks back, wasnít an immediate fan of the matt-finish, nor of the size of the head (or weight). Will definitely take a second look.

My (occasional) pro suggested the Callaway Apex Cf16ís. Iím hoping he meant the Pro version as I took a look at the ordinary ones yesterday and wasnít a fan at all. Cavity overhang at the back of the longer irons didnít appeal at all.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:46 PM

View Postbogey69, on 13 May 2018 - 07:24 PM, said:

Srixon 565 with X100's. Thank me later ;)

Do you mind me asking why those over the 765s?



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:15 PM

Since you prefer a longer blade and are looking for feel  look at the Mizuno MP 18 series. Probably the MP 18 SC or MMC.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:23 PM

Out of curiosity, two further quick queries:

1) how are the Taylormade 300 forged regarded as an iron? I’ve always thought of them as pretty special clubs and they have certainly aged well, in terms of looks and feel.

2) how have these sorts/segment of clubs improved over the years? They’re not exactly bursting with technology. Is it a simple matter of stronger lofts or will I notice improvements in terms of distance, dispersion and trajectory across the broad range of what you might call ‘players’ irons/semi cavity backs’?

In short, would a simple strengthening of lofts in my current clubs bring them up to speed, broadly speaking?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:00 AM

View PostConfused of London, on 15 May 2018 - 12:23 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, two further quick queries:

1) how are the Taylormade 300 forged regarded as an iron? I’ve always thought of them as pretty special clubs and they have certainly aged well, in terms of looks and feel.

2) how have these sorts/segment of clubs improved over the years? They’re not exactly bursting with technology. Is it a simple matter of stronger lofts or will I notice improvements in terms of distance, dispersion and trajectory across the broad range of what you might call ‘players’ irons/semi cavity backs’?

In short, would a simple strengthening of lofts in my current clubs bring them up to speed, broadly speaking?
The 300's are basically a better player cb but not too compact (probably regarded as midsize). A little offset too which adds up to quite a forgiving club in their class.
They still are relevant iron in their style. That is a one piece forged cb. I play mine at 46 degree pw which is a degree or two stronger than the stock lofts.
A lot of player cb's these days have multi material heads for feel and forgiveness. You may or may not be interested in that tech. Personally I think the clean one piece forging has a lot of attractiveness.
New model Titleist cb's may fit the bill but for a modern iron that has the attributes of the 300's, size, shape and offset I would look towards the Japanese traditional forged cb market.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:58 AM

View PostConfused of London, on 15 May 2018 - 12:23 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, two further quick queries:

1) how are the Taylormade 300 forged regarded as an iron? I’ve always thought of them as pretty special clubs and they have certainly aged well, in terms of looks and feel.

2) how have these sorts/segment of clubs improved over the years? They’re not exactly bursting with technology. Is it a simple matter of stronger lofts or will I notice improvements in terms of distance, dispersion and trajectory across the broad range of what you might call ‘players’ irons/semi cavity backs’?

In short, would a simple strengthening of lofts in my current clubs bring them up to speed, broadly speaking?

you would risk hurting the playability of your irons by simply strengthening lofts.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:19 AM

Strengthening lofts reduces bounce and increases offset.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:25 AM

View PostOldplayer, on 16 May 2018 - 04:00 AM, said:

View PostConfused of London, on 15 May 2018 - 12:23 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, two further quick queries:

1) how are the Taylormade 300 forged regarded as an iron? I’ve always thought of them as pretty special clubs and they have certainly aged well, in terms of looks and feel.

2) how have these sorts/segment of clubs improved over the years? They’re not exactly bursting with technology. Is it a simple matter of stronger lofts or will I notice improvements in terms of distance, dispersion and trajectory across the broad range of what you might call ‘players’ irons/semi cavity backs’?

In short, would a simple strengthening of lofts in my current clubs bring them up to speed, broadly speaking?
The 300's are basically a better player cb but not too compact (probably regarded as midsize). A little offset too which adds up to quite a forgiving club in their class.
They still are relevant iron in their style. That is a one piece forged cb. I play mine at 46 degree pw which is a degree or two stronger than the stock lofts.
A lot of player cb's these days have multi material heads for feel and forgiveness. You may or may not be interested in that tech. Personally I think the clean one piece forging has a lot of attractiveness.
New model Titleist cb's may fit the bill but for a modern iron that has the attributes of the 300's, size, shape and offset I would look towards the Japanese traditional forged cb market.

To follow on from this, if you are not concerned with how far you hit a 9i compared to you mates with their newer irons, stick with the 300s.

HOWEVER, you are a good bit above average height and seem to have a faster swing speed than most, so I think a fitting is in order. Now you could reshaft your current irons with whatever shaft is recommenced to you at whatever length, but that will cost you and swingweights will probably change. If you're ready to splash the brass, you might as well go all out for newer irons with shafts at lengths that fit you.
In that case, try as many irons as possible, before making your decision based on results and price.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:31 AM

Just get a newer set of the 300's with rifle 6.0's or 6.5's and get the lofts strengthened a little

Good little used sets always seem to come up on ebay
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:46 AM

I wouldn't say the 300 series is 20 years old.  More like 18.  I would know.  I remember TM selling it when they were starting to release it just a few months after I started golfing in 2000.  I still have the original commercials I downloaded from their website at the time and posted it on Youtube.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:53 AM

I would go with Mizuno...either the JPX 900 forged/tour or new MP18 MMC/SC.   There's no upcharge for shafts which is likely the most important item to dial in.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:27 PM

I wonder if Maxfli revolutions black dot would be good, probably similar era

How about 2011/12/13 tour preferred MCís?

Or 2011-2014 MBís?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:30 PM

View PostOldplayer, on 16 May 2018 - 04:00 AM, said:

View PostConfused of London, on 15 May 2018 - 12:23 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, two further quick queries:

1) how are the Taylormade 300 forged regarded as an iron? I’ve always thought of them as pretty special clubs and they have certainly aged well, in terms of looks and feel.

2) how have these sorts/segment of clubs improved over the years? They’re not exactly bursting with technology. Is it a simple matter of stronger lofts or will I notice improvements in terms of distance, dispersion and trajectory across the broad range of what you might call ‘players’ irons/semi cavity backs’?

In short, would a simple strengthening of lofts in my current clubs bring them up to speed, broadly speaking?
The 300's are basically a better player cb but not too compact (probably regarded as midsize). A little offset too which adds up to quite a forgiving club in their class.
They still are relevant iron in their style. That is a one piece forged cb. I play mine at 46 degree pw which is a degree or two stronger than the stock lofts.
A lot of player cb's these days have multi material heads for feel and forgiveness. You may or may not be interested in that tech. Personally I think the clean one piece forging has a lot of attractiveness.
New model Titleist cb's may fit the bill but for a modern iron that has the attributes of the 300's, size, shape and offset I would look towards the Japanese traditional forged cb market.

It’s funny you mention that - I have seen the new Miura MC-501s (on the web) and they look gorgeous. Slightly longer blade length and famed Miura feel. Only concern is forgiveness (and availability). Anyone have any views on those clubs and their potential suitability?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:41 PM

View Postgeochitown, on 16 May 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

I wonder if Maxfli revolutions black dot would be good, probably similar era

How about 2011/12/13 tour preferred MC’s?

Or 2011-2014 MB’s?

Top line is a bit thicker on the MC’s than my maxfli’s

I think if I upgrade it will be for a new set to maximise any (perceived) performance gains.

Must confess to be considering the Titleist CBs - they appear, at first glance anyway, to be the closet match in terms of look and potential feel to the TM300s but more technologically advanced (!) if there’s been any gains apart from stronger lofts in the past 18 years.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:55 PM

I am 6,2 but pretty much everything you said applies to me (swing speed and flip).  I replaced my tm 300 with a set of Wilson v4 forged and now I am using a set of mizuno  Jpx 850 with tour modus 120 x flex.  I do notice the modus tend to get a bit too high but as you well know a flip high ball flight is never going to be brought down with any shaft.  The modus feel so good and I am not seeing that wild errant left hook as bad vs s300.  Either set or their newer counterpart will do you well but I kept my tm300 just in case I need them.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:58 PM

Check out Honma 737V, pga super store has the fitting cart. The 737vn is the more players version but the V has a longer blade length heel to toe. Also looks to have less offset to my eye. Iím looking to move on from 300 forged as well. The Honma and the new x forged are the closest Iíve found.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:16 PM

From the sounds of things we have quite similar swings, speed is about the same and I have a tendancy to flip on the way through rather than drive, I'm also 6 foot plus and used to have a set of TM 300s. Lovely irons but mine came with the old Precision Rifles which I wasn't a huge fan of, and I couldn't hit the long irons for toffee.

So I did what any sensible person would do - replaced them with a set of Nike Blades fitted with S400s. Trajectory and distance control were much improved, and bizarrely, I could actually hit a long iron again. That was 2004, and my sig should tell you how long they lasted :)
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Spare Driver: Nike Covert Tour - Kuro Kage 60X
Fairway Woods: Nike Vapor Fly 5W - Diamana Blueboard 70S+
Putters: Yonex Super A.D.X Tour Forged / Scotty Cameron Newport Oil Can / Hogan Radial P51

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:51 PM

Stay with TM
P750 or 770.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:49 AM

I'd say try as many sets as you have to and you'll eventually find one you like. That being said. If I only had to choose one club I'd go with the Titleist CB716 or 718 and just be done with it. I'm having a lot of fun trying all the Japanese stuff over here, so I won't even hit them, but I know that they are about as good as it gets for a CB.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:26 PM

I always looked at the Miura CB57 as a knockoff of the 300's which was also Miura made (at least Lehman's were). Why not them?


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