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#1 playar32

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:48 PM

I know the actual criteria is 15 tour wins, or 2 majors/Players championship.

But what's YOUR minimum?

For example, if a played won a "B" tournament every year (the one opposite a WGC event), every year in a row for 15 years, but missed the cut in every other event, would you still considered them HOF?

I know 15 wins is rare, and winning 15 years in a row is extremely difficult.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:53 PM

My minimum is 15 tour wins, or two majors/players. And anybody named tiger
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:55 PM

15 tour wins and 2 majors for me.  Other wise almost every 1 major winner out there is in.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:08 PM

I guess what I'm getting at is what the rules say vs what you think.

For example, if Webb Simpson wins the players today is he HOF worthy?

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:09 PM

If we wonít remember youíre name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldnít be in. I feel like Webb isnít memorable at the moment

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:16 PM

If any of these three criteria are met.
3 or more majors. Minimum 5 Ryder cup appearances.  15 tour victories

Edited by fowlerscousin, 13 May 2018 - 02:19 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:16 PM

I agree.  I think about some guys who just kinda hover around.  They can win tourney's and get stuff done, but I don't know about hall of fame.

Kinda like Brooks Koepka (?), if he somehow gets another major, I don't know if I would put him in the HOF.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:27 PM

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:50 PM

Whatever the criteria are, don't ever think about it unless someone whose speech I want to hear gets in.

OP - you haven't given YOUR opinion.

Edited by Hawkeye77, 13 May 2018 - 02:50 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:23 PM

I would say..

20 Wins
3 Majors
2 Ryder Cup/President Cup appearance
100 total weeks inside Top 50 OWGR


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:36 PM

I’d like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses.  Factor in everything that’s important and let the chips fall where they may.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:37 PM

I would say a points system of 24-30 points, with a win counting for 1 point and a major for 6-8 points, possibly points for other related achievements.

So these kind of players would all be equal for me:

24 wins+0 majors
17 wins+1 major
10 wins+2 majors
3 wins+3 majors

Majors are more important than regular events. But hypothetically if you win 3 majors, then didn't win a single other Tour event (you would be exempt for hundreds of tournaments on the regular Tour), that's possibly more of a flaw than not winning a major.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:22 PM

10 Tour wins and two majors. The Players counts like a regular tournament. And for pete's sake, put Dave Stockton in already.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:23 PM

I can't do minimums, especially when you are considering those who play mostly outside the PGA Tour.
swing is irrelevant, score is everything

just say NO.... to practice swings

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:25 PM

View PostMcCann1, on 13 May 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

If we won't remember you're name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldn't be in. I feel like Webb isn't memorable at the moment

It worked for Chi Chi Rodriguez (8 PGA Tour wins) who got into the HOF in 1992.

Will John Daly (5 wins, 2 majors) make it?

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just say NO.... to practice swings

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:44 PM

Daly? Never.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:50 PM

View PostDarth Putter, on 13 May 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

View PostMcCann1, on 13 May 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

If we won't remember you're name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldn't be in. I feel like Webb isn't memorable at the moment

It worked for Chi Chi Rodriguez (8 PGA Tour wins) who got into the HOF in 1992.

Will John Daly (5 wins, 2 majors) make it?

Iíd vote him in.  Vs say some of these 1 major guys . 1 major you can sneak up on or back into. You arenít going to do that twice.  Win 2 and youíre on another level.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:55 PM

View Postplayar32, on 13 May 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

I know the actual criteria is 15 tour wins, or 2 majors/Players championship.

But what's YOUR minimum?

For example, if a played won a "B" tournament every year (the one opposite a WGC event), every year in a row for 15 years, but missed the cut in every other event, would you still considered them HOF?

I know 15 wins is rare, and winning 15 years in a row is extremely difficult.

That is the criteria for being on the ballot, not for induction.

I use the DL3 test. The equivalent of his career: in. Anything less: probably not.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:55 PM

I think Janzen is the cusp.  2 US Opens, 1 Players Championship,   Couples was also on that cusp with only one Major.  Lehman would be a no go.  

LPGA standards are too tough.  Only entries last 20 years using LPGA point system would be Woods, Singh, and Mickelson.   Also rans like Norman, Els, Love & Faldo would have missed out.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:57 PM

Roughly:

10 wins (pga) and 2 majors.
20 wins (pga) and 1 major.
30 wins (pga) and 0 majors.

Don’t really know how to factor in European tour wins compared to pga wins.  
50%?  70%?

If you’re very close but short, then maybe player of the year or reaching world number 1 might be a factor.  

Interesting tidbits I just looked up:

Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw both have 19 PGA wins. Dustin Johnson, Jim Furyk, and Curtis Strange all have 17 PGA tour wins.  Fred Couples and Corey Pavin both have 15 wins (and are the same age).  

82,79,73.... Sam, Tiger, and Jack.



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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:58 PM

Totally agree 2 majors are very significant accomplishment, but when I look at Daly's major record I see 2 wins and mostly a horrible record of missing cuts and playing bad most of the time when he made cuts. Just not much for overall excellence in his career, IMO.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:27 PM

View Postgolfgirlrobin, on 13 May 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

Iíd like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses.  Factor in everything thatís important and let the chips fall where they may.
She always has the most logical answer in these types of threads, lol

Iím with Robin on the points system👌🏼

You guys, even the ones of ya that I love, are a bunch of putzes, lolol😜

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:32 PM

LPGA HOF Point System adapted for PGA tour.    1 point  (PGA) tour win, 2 Points for a Major, 1 point for POY or (Vardon).  27 points required for entry.    


I told you it was tough.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:45 PM

View PostForged4ever, on 13 May 2018 - 07:27 PM, said:

View Postgolfgirlrobin, on 13 May 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

Iíd like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses.  Factor in everything thatís important and let the chips fall where they may.
She always has the most logical answer in these types of threads, lol

Iím with Robin on the points system👌🏼

You guys, even the ones of ya that I love, are a bunch of putzes, lolol😜

Carry on🍻
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Nice to see you on here Richard!

The nice thing about the points system is that other finishes do somewhat get rewarded. Player of the Year, scoring average and such.
Who's having the better year? Finau or Potter Jr? Finau 16 events and 14 cuts and a more high finishes.
Potter Jr has a win but has missed 10 of 17 cuts.

But too many on here it's cut and dried about total wins only.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:03 PM

View PostShilgy, on 13 May 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 13 May 2018 - 07:27 PM, said:

View Postgolfgirlrobin, on 13 May 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'd like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses.  Factor in everything that's important and let the chips fall where they may.
She always has the most logical answer in these types of threads, lol

I'm with Robin on the points system����

You guys, even the ones of ya that I love, are a bunch of putzes, lolol��

Carry on��
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Nice to see you on here Richard!

The nice thing about the points system is that other finishes do somewhat get rewarded. Player of the Year, scoring average and such.
Who's having the better year? Finau or Potter Jr? Finau 16 events and 14 cuts and a more high finishes.
Potter Jr has a win but has missed 10 of 17 cuts.

But too many on here it's cut and dried about total wins only.

People also put too much emphasis on the numbers of wins. Context is everything and sometimes it's ok to finish second, especially in majors.

What were the best moments of Chris DiMarco, Rocco Mediate and Bob May's careers? How would they be introduced? Ah Chris, yes you know Chris, he won the 2000 Sei Pennsylvania Classic...nope. He took peak Tiger Woods to a playoff in one of the most iconic Masters tournaments of all-time.

Ernie Els had 57 worldwide wins...but also 54 world second-places. Of course, golf is about winning, but it isn't like other sports. To be second, it means you were better than 140 others that week mostly.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:47 PM

View Postplayar32, on 13 May 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

I guess what I'm getting at is what the rules say vs what you think.

For example, if Webb Simpson wins the players today is he HOF worthy?

So really you wanted to name this thread "Is Webb an H.O.F.er?".   Really?  You cannot be serious.....

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:51 PM

View PostYuck, on 13 May 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

LPGA HOF Point System adapted for PGA tour. 1 point  (PGA) tour win, 2 Points for a Major, 1 point for POY or (Vardon).  27 points required for entry.


I told you it was tough.

Didn't know it was that tough....So no Boom, Boom; Davis Love III right on the fence. O'Meara- out.  I think I like it!!!!  But then what would we argue about?

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:52 PM

View PostOutlier, on 13 May 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

View PostYuck, on 13 May 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

LPGA HOF Point System adapted for PGA tour.    1 point  (PGA) tour win, 2 Points for a Major, 1 point for POY or (Vardon).  27 points required for entry.    


I told you it was tough.

Didn't know it was that tough....So no Boom, Boom; Davis Love III right on the fence. O'Meara- out.  I think I like it!!!!  But then what would we argue about?
Well..thereís always politics
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:54 PM

View PostKSP, on 13 May 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

Roughly:

10 wins (pga) and 2 majors.
20 wins (pga) and 1 major.
30 wins (pga) and 0 majors.

Don’t really know how to factor in European tour wins compared to pga wins.  
50%?  70%?

If you’re very close but short, then maybe player of the year or reaching world number 1 might be a factor.  

Interesting tidbits I just looked up:

Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw both have 19 PGA wins. Dustin Johnson, Jim Furyk, and Curtis Strange all have 17 PGA tour wins.  Fred Couples and Corey Pavin both have 15 wins (and are the same age).  

82,79,73.... Sam, Tiger, and Jack.

So Couples made HOF over Pavin cause his has a cuter arse?

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:59 PM

View PostOutlier, on 13 May 2018 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostKSP, on 13 May 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

Roughly:

10 wins (pga) and 2 majors.
20 wins (pga) and 1 major.
30 wins (pga) and 0 majors.

Donít really know how to factor in European tour wins compared to pga wins.  
50%?  70%?

If youíre very close but short, then maybe player of the year or reaching world number 1 might be a factor.  

Interesting tidbits I just looked up:

Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw both have 19 PGA wins. Dustin Johnson, Jim Furyk, and Curtis Strange all have 17 PGA tour wins.  Fred Couples and Corey Pavin both have 15 wins (and are the same age).  

82,79,73.... Sam, Tiger, and Jack.

So Couples made HOF over Pavin cause his has a cuter arse?

2 players, won that proto-WGC event that I am forgetting the name of, no leaky wife-selected Ryder Cup rain gear

Edited by cdnglf, 13 May 2018 - 09:02 PM.


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