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What Would a 10 Handicapper Shoot at TPC Sawgrass?


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#121 Pepperturbo

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:02 PM

 golfer07840, on 16 May 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

 Shilgy, on 16 May 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

 golfer07840, on 14 May 2018 - 12:46 PM, said:

In case anyone cares (for some reason, I do)

Webb Simpson played to a +6.1 this week.

Had a +9.7 differential on Friday. Just crazy good.
Which always is the amusing thing about plus handicaps. A ten handicap for example sees his differential go lower for shooting a score at a highly sloped course like Sawgrass. If a negative cap shoots 10 over the course rating of 76.4-let's call it an 86- his differential is "better" at 6.998 which would be 7.0 differential. Because je played a harder course his differential is lower.

On the plus side like Simpson a 63 is only +9.7 which shows the differential going higher(not as good) because of the high slope.  **

** yes-I understand this is not because of the players handicap but is just showing the large difference because of slope between shooting well under the rating versus over.

Hmm-maybe a good course of action would be the score that is on the plus side not be affected by the slope at all?  If a player shoots 63 at Sawgrass shouldn't his differential be +13.4? If not-why? At a "normally sloped course" with 113 slope he would be +13.4 for that round.

No, the higher the slope, the "harder" the course is. Let's assume the sloped course you're talking about is slopped at 113, and the course rating (which is what a scratch would shoot) is say 69.5. A 63 there would be a differential of +6.5

Never paid much attention to "plus" stroke details.  As I know it, course rating (example) 74.5, not slope, is what scratch or better golfers look at unless they are inside of 3.5 and use the slope table for + strokes.  True - higher the slope the harder the course.  My slope table only goes to +3.5 = +5 stroke course handicap on slope rating 151-155.  On a 113 slope course, slope table goes to Below +2.6 = +3 course handicap.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:37 PM

 golfer07840, on 16 May 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

 Shilgy, on 16 May 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

 golfer07840, on 14 May 2018 - 12:46 PM, said:

In case anyone cares (for some reason, I do)

Webb Simpson played to a +6.1 this week.

Had a +9.7 differential on Friday. Just crazy good.
Which always is the amusing thing about plus handicaps. A ten handicap for example sees his differential go lower for shooting a score at a highly sloped course like Sawgrass. If a negative cap shoots 10 over the course rating of 76.4-let's call it an 86- his differential is "better" at 6.998 which would be 7.0 differential. Because je played a harder course his differential is lower.

On the plus side like Simpson a 63 is only +9.7 which shows the differential going higher(not as good) because of the high slope.  **

** yes-I understand this is not because of the players handicap but is just showing the large difference because of slope between shooting well under the rating versus over.

Hmm-maybe a good course of action would be the score that is on the plus side not be affected by the slope at all?  If a player shoots 63 at Sawgrass shouldn't his differential be +13.4? If not-why? At a "normally sloped course" with 113 slope he would be +13.4 for that round.

No, the higher the slope, the "harder" the course is. Let's assume the sloped course you're talking about is slopped at 113, and the course rating (which is what a scratch would shoot) is say 69.5. A 63 there would be a differential of +6.5
Of course-and you are correct that a 63 at the 69.5 rated course/113 slope would be +6.5. So he is more of a plus playing the easy course rather than the difficult one. If the 69.5 rated course was sloped at 155 like Sawgrass that round would be a differential of +4.7.  Same score-harder course and yet his handicap would go up.
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