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#1 leezer99

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 10:31 PM

So what did you all think of the GC show Driven?  Personally I thought the first episode was really cool to watch.  Interesting to see how different the coaches were between OSU and OU.  Hadn't put a ton of thought into coaches but it really opened my eyes.  Also liked seeing the competition they had playing football and basketball.

Looking forward to episode two.


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Posted 10 May 2018 - 06:32 AM

Thought it was pretty good, will DVR and watch more. Definitely a different world at these two schools than most golf programs I'm guessing. Private jets, multi million dollar training facilities, PXG sponsorships - interesting to see the behind the scenes stuff though.
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Posted 10 May 2018 - 07:35 AM

I thought it was a solid 1st episode, as well. I liked seeing the behind-the-scenes action, some of the preparations, and the actual competitions/results. And, the contrast between the 2 programs was a nice feature. I'll definitely be DVRing it. Finally, what seems to be a decent GC original show, at least recently. What a change from the 'Shotmakers' debacle. :good:

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 12:33 PM

I have it DVR'd, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 03:06 PM

We really enjoyed it.  The college experience for these guys is WAYYY different than what I experienced.  Some of the scores from OSU were crazy low.

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 03:08 PM

View Postbub72ck, on 10 May 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

We really enjoyed it.  The college experience for these guys is WAYYY different than what I experienced.  Some of the scores from OSU were crazy low.

Your team didn't fly on a private jet?

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 03:19 PM

I thought is was a good show, much better than that top golf crap.

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 03:47 PM

I thought it was great, really hoping the season stays as strong as the first episode.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:16 PM

After watching the past two episodes, Iím really in awe of the amount of resources these teams have. Private jets, trainers, nutritionists. Whatís really crazy is that given all that for four years only 1 or 2 will be PGA Tour players. No wonder college tuition is so high.

One thing I noticed about their playing is every single one has nick price like tempo. Really fast back swings, even when putting and chipping. Made me think what it is that there wasnít even one with a smooth Els or Couples like tempo. Just an observation.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:27 PM

View PostBrianMcG, on 15 May 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

After watching the past two episodes, Iím really in awe of the amount of resources these teams have. Private jets, trainers, nutritionists. Whatís really crazy is that given all that for four years only 1 or 2 will be PGA Tour players. No wonder college tuition is so high.

One thing I noticed about their playing is every single one has nick price like tempo. Really fast back swings, even when putting and chipping. Made me think what it is that there wasnít even one with a smooth Els or Couples like tempo. Just an observation.

The college isnít funding the private jets.  You can be sure that stuff comes from donors.  Other top 20 programs have old vans and fly coach on commercial fights.  Trainers and nutritionist are common at pretty much every university for athletes.  Their experience is different than the majority of other programs


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:49 PM

View Postiteachgolf, on 15 May 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 15 May 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

After watching the past two episodes, I'm really in awe of the amount of resources these teams have. Private jets, trainers, nutritionists. What's really crazy is that given all that for four years only 1 or 2 will be PGA Tour players. No wonder college tuition is so high.

One thing I noticed about their playing is every single one has nick price like tempo. Really fast back swings, even when putting and chipping. Made me think what it is that there wasn't even one with a smooth Els or Couples like tempo. Just an observation.

The college isn't funding the private jets.  You can be sure that stuff comes from donors.  Other top 20 programs have old vans and fly coach on commercial fights.  Trainers and nutritionist are common at pretty much every university for athletes.  Their experience is different than the majority of other programs

I've heard that OSU jet has some hours on it from picking up recruits and bringing them to the OK state.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:55 PM

I dunno. I had to turn it off after a little bit.

The whole process they use...it just seemed more adorable that everyone was trying so hard and they seemed so serious. Like watching a six year old get down and have a two minute process over a putt.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:01 PM

View PostBrianMcG, on 15 May 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

After watching the past two episodes, I'm really in awe of the amount of resources these teams have. Private jets, trainers, nutritionists. What's really crazy is that given all that for four years only 1 or 2 will be PGA Tour players. No wonder college tuition is so high.

One thing I noticed about their playing is every single one has nick price like tempo. Really fast back swings, even when putting and chipping. Made me think what it is that there wasn't even one with a smooth Els or Couples like tempo. Just an observation.

The quick tempos caught my eye as well.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:45 AM

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The college isn't funding the private jets.  You can be sure that stuff comes from donors.  Other top 20 programs have old vans and fly coach on commercial fights.  Trainers and nutritionist are common at pretty much every university for athletes.  Their experience is different than the majority of other programs

Boone Pickens alone pledged/donated $165M to OSU Athletics - in one pledge. And thats on top of everything else he's given. Believe me, the private jet and anything else has zero affect on tuition prices.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:33 AM

View PostBrianMcG, on 15 May 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

After watching the past two episodes, I'm really in awe of the amount of resources these teams have. Private jets, trainers, nutritionists. What's really crazy is that given all that for four years only 1 or 2 will be PGA Tour players. No wonder college tuition is so high.

One thing I noticed about their playing is every single one has nick price like tempo. Really fast back swings, even when putting and chipping. Made me think what it is that there wasn't even one with a smooth Els or Couples like tempo. Just an observation.

I can assure you that no money spent on tuition is being spent on athletics.  They are separate entities within the school system.

I did notice the fast back swings.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:43 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 May 2018 - 08:33 AM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 15 May 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

After watching the past two episodes, I'm really in awe of the amount of resources these teams have. Private jets, trainers, nutritionists. What's really crazy is that given all that for four years only 1 or 2 will be PGA Tour players. No wonder college tuition is so high.

One thing I noticed about their playing is every single one has nick price like tempo. Really fast back swings, even when putting and chipping. Made me think what it is that there wasn't even one with a smooth Els or Couples like tempo. Just an observation.

I can assure you that no money spent on tuition is being spent on athletics.  They are separate entities within the school system.

I did notice the fast back swings.

I've noticed alot of d1 college swings are more raw swings. Once they get to web.com or pga tour status the swings get more refined.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:52 AM

Love that Matt Wolff swing.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:24 AM

View PostBelmont148, on 16 May 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

Love that Matt Wolff swing.

Definitely has a hitch in his get along.  Dude goes low... currently T4 in his NCAA Regional.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:41 AM

stratton nolen, his dad on this forum,  never gets any play time. I haven't seen him get much play time his entire 4 years. I would be kinda pissed in his situation

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:44 AM

View Postleezer99, on 16 May 2018 - 09:24 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 16 May 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

Love that Matt Wolff swing.

Definitely has a hitch in his get along.  Dude goes low... currently T4 in his NCAA Regional.

I thought the same thing.  Very old school lifting the left foot.  No doubt the kid can play.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:48 AM

View PostRedjeep83, on 16 May 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

stratton nolen, his dad on this forum,  never gets any play time. I haven't seen him get much play time his entire 4 years. I would be kinda pissed in his situation

Why would you be pissed?  The players have to qualify to play.  There is nothing subjective about it.  You either shoot the score or you don't.  If you don't you sit at home.  That is one of the beautiful things about golf.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:58 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 May 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 16 May 2018 - 09:24 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 16 May 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

Love that Matt Wolff swing.

Definitely has a hitch in his get along.  Dude goes low... currently T4 in his NCAA Regional.

I thought the same thing.  Very old school lifting the left foot.  No doubt the kid can play.

Matt is a George Gankas student (one of those guys Foley said he learned from in that video).

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:09 AM

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:44 AM

The part where they show Mathew Wolff and GG was pretty cool.  Wolff definitely has a peculiar swing, but it is repeatable and flat out works.  This got me thinking.....With all other things being equal, does the looks and mechanics of a player's swing have any bearing on them being picked to be on a team?  For instance Player A has a scoring average of 68 and swings it like Adam Scott.  Player B has a scoring average of 67 and swings it like Jim Furyk.  Which player would be picked?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:08 PM

View Postkekoa, on 16 May 2018 - 11:44 AM, said:

The part where they show Mathew Wolff and GG was pretty cool.  Wolff definitely has a peculiar swing, but it is repeatable and flat out works.  This got me thinking.....With all other things being equal, does the looks and mechanics of a player's swing have any bearing on them being picked to be on a team?  For instance Player A has a scoring average of 68 and swings it like Adam Scott.  Player B has a scoring average of 67 and swings it like Jim Furyk.  Which player would be picked?

I don't think it matters.  Watching the show I thought all of the OSU golfers had unique swings.  I am not saying it is a bad thing.  I thought it was refreshing not seeing the same swing by every player.  At the end of the day I don't think what the swing looks likes means anything as long as it won't get you injured.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:15 PM

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:48 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 May 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostRedjeep83, on 16 May 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

stratton nolen, his dad on this forum,  never gets any play time. I haven't seen him get much play time his entire 4 years. I would be kinda pissed in his situation

Why would you be pissed?  The players have to qualify to play.  There is nothing subjective about it.  You either shoot the score or you don't.  If you don't you sit at home.  That is one of the beautiful things about golf.

From what I've read from people and his dad, he has put up the scores etc but still hasn't got much playing time, mostly because of his size and its been frustrating. The coach that recruited him left his freshman year.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:48 PM

View Postkekoa, on 16 May 2018 - 11:44 AM, said:

The part where they show Mathew Wolff and GG was pretty cool.  Wolff definitely has a peculiar swing, but it is repeatable and flat out works.  This got me thinking.....With all other things being equal, does the looks and mechanics of a player's swing have any bearing on them being picked to be on a team?  For instance Player A has a scoring average of 68 and swings it like Adam Scott.  Player B has a scoring average of 67 and swings it like Jim Furyk.  Which player would be picked?

Great question- would a coach look at Player A and see more growth potential based on more solid (aka normal or pretty) fundamentals.  Anyone who has high level high schoolers or kids in college golf have any experience here in recruiting...heavy?

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:17 PM

View PostRedjeep83, on 16 May 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 May 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostRedjeep83, on 16 May 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

stratton nolen, his dad on this forum,  never gets any play time. I haven't seen him get much play time his entire 4 years. I would be kinda pissed in his situation

Why would you be pissed?  The players have to qualify to play.  There is nothing subjective about it.  You either shoot the score or you don't.  If you don't you sit at home.  That is one of the beautiful things about golf.

From what I've read from people and his dad, he has put up the scores etc but still hasn't got much playing time, mostly because of his size and its been frustrating. The coach that recruited him left his freshman year.

He could have transferred. Obviously it's a decision of ride the bench on a championship team, or get to play a lot for a top 25 somewhere.

Bryan Edwards chose the Gamecocks in football here as he wanted to be the top receiver at a mediocre school instead play 2nd WR or CB at Clemson and win championships. Just have to weigh the pros/cons.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:26 PM

View PostRedjeep83, on 16 May 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 May 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostRedjeep83, on 16 May 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

stratton nolen, his dad on this forum,  never gets any play time. I haven't seen him get much play time his entire 4 years. I would be kinda pissed in his situation

Why would you be pissed?  The players have to qualify to play.  There is nothing subjective about it.  You either shoot the score or you don't.  If you don't you sit at home.  That is one of the beautiful things about golf.

From what I've read from people and his dad, he has put up the scores etc but still hasn't got much playing time, mostly because of his size and its been frustrating. The coach that recruited him left his freshman year.

You go to a school based on the players, fit, and the education.  Going because of the coach is the wrong reason to go.  My opinion is the kid should have transferred.  There are countless meetings between players and coach individually and as a group.  If his goal was to play he should have asked the coach last year if he could guarantee a spot on the roster.  If he said "No" he should have transferred to play somewhere else.  That isn't on the coach or the program, it is on the player and his parents.

As a former coach, if I have a two kids (one a freshman and one a senior) with equal abilities and shooting the same scores I would play the freshman 100% of the time.


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