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Can You Imagine Tiger Woods As A Callaway Player?


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#1 EmperorPenguin

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:03 AM

Looking through various YouTube videos, I was curious about this link.  This was filmed about a week before he turned pro, during the US Amateur at Pumpkin Ridge.  I am no die-hard Tiget fanatic, but I do remember most everything that happened in his career except this one: I remember Phil Knight courting Tiger before he turned pro, but I did not know until today that Ely Callaway was also trying to get Tiger to sign with him.

https://www.youtube....h?v=rchBvMpvR1Y

At 1:03 Ely Callaway said, "We're gonna be honored and delighted, and I'll bet you that we'll be smart enough to find a way to compensate him in a nice way."  Really?

Callaway Golf was already huge back in 1996 because Big Bertha irons were already released and, along with Big Bertha metalwoods, they were indeed revolutionary and perhaps the hottest equipment company at the time, though I remember specifically that they did not make forged blades then; Mizuno was the leader, and a mix of Mizuno irons were in Tiger's bag.  I remember exactly what Woods used then (King Cobra driver, TM Tour Spoon 3W, Mizuno MP-29 and -14 irons, Cleveland wedges and the classic Scotty Cameron Newport putter), and he had no Callaway equipment at the time, though I do remember seeing later pictures of his golf swing using a Big Bertha driver.  There are even pictures of him in his early teens using Ping Eye2's.  He tinkered with all the equipment out there, no doubt.

What I am very curious about is why Callaway failed to sign him.  Nike at the time was only an apparel company, and I recall that his first equipment contract was with Titleist (good choice), though not immediately in his first year as a pro.  However, Callaway was huge back in the mid- to late-90's, and I can only guess that their bread and butter was game-improvement irons.  Had Callaway then the Endo forgings they offer today, they would have had a better chance to sign him.   Had they signed him can you imagine the even greater impact he would have had on the game?  This is all speculation, but I am very curious as to the real reason why they failed to sign him.  Does anyone know?


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:45 AM

Iím sure it was lack of equipment that he liked.  Can you imagine tiger playing a set of big Bertha irons ?  I canít.   And before anyone says ď eye 2 eye 2 ď!   No.  Huuuge difference between the eye2 and the big Bertha.  Think shovel vs backhoe.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:49 AM

Most people don’t remember when he signed with a Titleist they didn’t offer a blade. When Tiger got the T stamps in his bag everyone freaked out and wanted a set. This is when all the rumors started about “Mizunos with Titleist stamps” and Miuras made for Titleist.

The Miura rumor may be true, but of course Titleist soon got back to selling forged blades, instead of just DCI’s. Vokey took off and so did Cameron.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:10 AM

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 06:49 AM, said:

Most people don’t remember when he signed with a Titleist they didn’t offer a blade. When Tiger got the T stamps in his bag everyone freaked out and wanted a set. This is when all the rumors started about “Mizunos with Titleist stamps” and Miuras made for Titleist.

The Miura rumor may be true, but of course Titleist soon got back to selling forged blades, instead of just DCI’s. Vokey took off and so did Cameron.

they may not have had a public offering of a blade, but many Titleist tour players had blades at the time.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:24 AM

What I remember was that in 1996 Titleist was selling DCI gold, DCI black, and DCI-B irons, and for one year (was in 1996?) they had a new DCI black with no offset that the next year they stamped those irons heads with 962, which are, in my opinion, one of the best iron sets ever made.

I recall that when Tiger had the Titleist bag, he was still playing his mixed bag.  I do remember specifically that when he switched to the Buick bag he was playing the 975D, TM Tour Spoon (later PT15), 681, Vokey wedges and his custom Scotty putter.  That was when he played his best golf.

The only blades Callaway offered back in the mid-90's, I remember, were the cast Bobby Jones scotch blades, which nobody liked.  Those were junk.  Still, I figured that had Ely offered enough money he would play Big Bertha irons despite how hideous they looked at address.

Edited by EmperorPenguin, 16 April 2018 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:27 AM

View PostQuigleyDU, on 16 April 2018 - 07:10 AM, said:

they may not have had a public offering of a blade, but many Titleist tour players had blades at the time.

The only blades I remember were the Tour Model blades from '91-'96, which by the way I own a set.  They are gorgeous blades and easier to hit than other blades due to the larger muscle.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:30 AM

Sure I can.  Inferior equipment is inferior equipment.  :dntknw:
run of the mill driver with stock shaft
a couple of outdated hybrids
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wedges from same shovel company
some putter with a dead insert and
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:35 AM

Indeed, and Phil was absolutely right, and ultimately so, given they are no longer in that business and how truly inferior they were.

Edited by EmperorPenguin, 16 April 2018 - 09:36 AM.


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