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A win on the tour for PR-GR......,


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#1 tsupo

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:36 PM

Ahhhhhhhhh  nice to see  a JDM winner!
this might  bring some  quizzical attention and  a whole new audience to the greatness  of the old irons  forged  @  ENDO .....
Although his bag is a testament to the new models ..it cud open    many more  eyes  to possibilities  other than  the 4 massive mkt  saturation  brands.

these all go more than ok..

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#2 Stonewalled

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:15 PM

Was also happy to see PRGR have a win on the tour.

Tsupo i would love to hear your thoughts on the RS Forged models 2016-17? with the Flash One dampening material.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:32 PM

Cool, but looks taking a back seat...woods had a white top too.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:44 AM

The latest 2 sets ive  hit, the Mb models are , feel wise something you wud want to play in  winter every day.
they are  in all honesty like hitting a frozen marshmallow or compressed air.

its unlike anything ive hit, AND with DGs200 shafts so I was getting zero assistance   from the shaft feel wise.

they are soft , I mean  really really  soft.
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solid contacts 12.5---* diamana stinger 70x
(prgr egg 16.5* --- quadra fire express 75xs)
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(modart 18* ute--crazy ut 75s)
(honma di 21*--NS125s)
prgr- tr500cu--NS2g18x ss
fourteen mt28 proto 52/57 --NS 125s
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:13 AM

View Posttsupo, on 16 April 2018 - 12:44 AM, said:

The latest 2 sets ive  hit, the Mb models are , feel wise something you wud want to play in  winter every day.
they are  in all honesty like hitting a frozen marshmallow or compressed air.

its unlike anything ive hit, AND with DGs200 shafts so I was getting zero assistance   from the shaft feel wise.

they are soft , I mean  really really  soft.

Thanks for the reply tsupo.

Winter is finally coming to an end here, should be playing in 2-3 weeks.

The MB's look pretty impressive, and i love a soft feeling iron.

I have some Epon 502's with the gel in the cavity, they feel pretty good, maybe slightly larger in size than the RS Forged possibly?  Have you hit the 502's?  Wondering if it's worth the upgrade?

Thanks.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:55 PM

yup .a buzzzilion times, my paying partnes irons set.
they are close.. but the prgr has a denser feel, the epon is like guuuuuuuuuuuush.

I prefer the prgr......just!!
jbeam 435, 9.5*--- 7dreamers 70xs
solid contacts 12.5---* diamana stinger 70x
(prgr egg 16.5* --- quadra fire express 75xs)
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(modart 18* ute--crazy ut 75s)
(honma di 21*--NS125s)
prgr- tr500cu--NS2g18x ss
fourteen mt28 proto 52/57 --NS 125s
tourstage x-01z


"im an equal oportunity hitting machine, all day every day".

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:41 PM

Which model(s) are PRGRís mid-sized more forgiving cavity back irons?

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:45 PM

View Posttsupo, on 16 April 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

yup .a buzzzilion times, my paying partnes irons set.
they are close.. but the prgr has a denser feel, the epon is like guuuuuuuuuuuush.

I prefer the prgr......just!!

Kinda had a feeling you would have the answer

That's good to know thanks tsupo..

Does your playing partner shake his head every time he see you playing a different set.  I know mine does.  LoL.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 12:25 AM

Ohhhhhhhhh boy you have NO idea...
ive only got a  cpl of guys  left these days .all my old fellas have taken up drinking instead I think...
ive played once or twice ....... since  Nov last year , its normally about 10+  by now.

my clubs are turning into poles to hold up tomato vines!

fwiw  I ddint like the new prgrs anywhere near  as much as the old ones. in terms of looks.
but the feel is as usual, great, the tunes are a nice ne west but they are very exxy and u cant get heads only they need to be professionally built
jbeam 435, 9.5*--- 7dreamers 70xs
solid contacts 12.5---* diamana stinger 70x
(prgr egg 16.5* --- quadra fire express 75xs)
(prgr egg 18*--diamana stinger 71x)
(modart 18* ute--crazy ut 75s)
(honma di 21*--NS125s)
prgr- tr500cu--NS2g18x ss
fourteen mt28 proto 52/57 --NS 125s
tourstage x-01z


"im an equal oportunity hitting machine, all day every day".

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 11:28 AM

View Posttsupo, on 17 April 2018 - 12:25 AM, said:

Ohhhhhhhhh boy you have NO idea...
ive only got a  cpl of guys  left these days .all my old fellas have taken up drinking instead I think...
ive played once or twice ....... since  Nov last year , its normally about 10+  by now.

my clubs are turning into poles to hold up tomato vines!

fwiw  I ddint like the new prgrs anywhere near  as much as the old ones. in terms of looks.
but the feel is as usual, great, the tunes are a nice ne west but they are very exxy and u cant get heads only they need to be professionally built

Lol, i'm sure you have had a ton of iron over the years tsupo.  
Sorry to hear you haven't got out playing as much as you would have liked.
Got yourself  some pretty pricy garden tools. Might have to shine them up, sober up your buddies and swing away. :)  I still got my idbl's, the newer RS forged sound impressive, not sure i need anymore clubs but i'm always looking. Thanks again for the info.


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 07:35 AM

I play the RS Forged. I wouldn't call them blades as they certainly do not play like blades. Wider sole, thicker topline. Very forgiving. They do play more like cavity backs imo. They are plenty long as well. Feel is very good and soft, but I would say they do not feel as pure as a one piece forging. They do have some kind of "synthetic" feel to it. But they do feel very good. Sole grind is similar to the Srixon V-Sole which is very good for me.
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Posted 20 April 2018 - 10:34 PM

View PostShacco, on 20 April 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

I play the RS Forged. I wouldn't call them blades as they certainly do not play like blades. Wider sole, thicker topline. Very forgiving. They do play more like cavity backs imo. They are plenty long as well. Feel is very good and soft, but I would say they do not feel as pure as a one piece forging. They do have some kind of "synthetic" feel to it. But they do feel very good. Sole grind is similar to the Srixon V-Sole which is very good for me.

Thanks for the info on the RS Forged Shacco.  Was wondering on the feel vs a one piece forged. Kinda didn't want to be disappointed on that.  Sole grind similar to Srixon is ideal for me so that's a plus.

Picked up a set of 2011 On/Off forged and just recently was warm enough to hit a few balls, i was impressed with the feel.  Might be spoiled now. lol.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:07 PM

View PostBimmer1, on 16 April 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

Which model(s) are PRGR's mid-sized more forgiving cavity back irons?

probably one of the nabla range from 3-5 yrs ago... not overly sure which ones as they arnt the ones I go for
jbeam 435, 9.5*--- 7dreamers 70xs
solid contacts 12.5---* diamana stinger 70x
(prgr egg 16.5* --- quadra fire express 75xs)
(prgr egg 18*--diamana stinger 71x)
(modart 18* ute--crazy ut 75s)
(honma di 21*--NS125s)
prgr- tr500cu--NS2g18x ss
fourteen mt28 proto 52/57 --NS 125s
tourstage x-01z


"im an equal oportunity hitting machine, all day every day".

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:50 AM

View PostStonewalled, on 20 April 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

View PostShacco, on 20 April 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

I play the RS Forged. I wouldn't call them blades as they certainly do not play like blades. Wider sole, thicker topline. Very forgiving. They do play more like cavity backs imo. They are plenty long as well. Feel is very good and soft, but I would say they do not feel as pure as a one piece forging. They do have some kind of "synthetic" feel to it. But they do feel very good. Sole grind is similar to the Srixon V-Sole which is very good for me.

Thanks for the info on the RS Forged Shacco.  Was wondering on the feel vs a one piece forged. Kinda didn't want to be disappointed on that.  Sole grind similar to Srixon is ideal for me so that's a plus.

Picked up a set of 2011 On/Off forged and just recently was warm enough to hit a few balls, i was impressed with the feel.  Might be spoiled now. lol.

Funny you mention this. I actually came from a set of 2011 Onoff forged. Best feeling iron I have played. So so soft. The RS forged feel a bit different. When I made the switch, I remember preferring the feel of the Onoffs. But now, I really don't miss it. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying the RS forged feel bad at all. Just different. Still very soft but not as mushy soft as the 2011 Onoff forged. Some people actually don't like the super mushy soft feel of the Onoff because of the lack of feedback. The PRGR will certainly provide a little more feedback. You'd be surprised to find that the forgiveness is on a similar level (maybe just ever so slightly less forgiving) to the Onoffs which I consider very forgiving.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:31 PM

View PostShacco, on 15 May 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:

View PostStonewalled, on 20 April 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

View PostShacco, on 20 April 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

I play the RS Forged. I wouldn't call them blades as they certainly do not play like blades. Wider sole, thicker topline. Very forgiving. They do play more like cavity backs imo. They are plenty long as well. Feel is very good and soft, but I would say they do not feel as pure as a one piece forging. They do have some kind of "synthetic" feel to it. But they do feel very good. Sole grind is similar to the Srixon V-Sole which is very good for me.

Thanks for the info on the RS Forged Shacco.  Was wondering on the feel vs a one piece forged. Kinda didn't want to be disappointed on that.  Sole grind similar to Srixon is ideal for me so that's a plus.

Picked up a set of 2011 On/Off forged and just recently was warm enough to hit a few balls, i was impressed with the feel.  Might be spoiled now. lol.

Funny you mention this. I actually came from a set of 2011 Onoff forged. Best feeling iron I have played. So so soft. The RS forged feel a bit different. When I made the switch, I remember preferring the feel of the Onoffs. But now, I really don't miss it. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying the RS forged feel bad at all. Just different. Still very soft but not as mushy soft as the 2011 Onoff forged. Some people actually don't like the super mushy soft feel of the Onoff because of the lack of feedback. The PRGR will certainly provide a little more feedback. You'd be surprised to find that the forgiveness is on a similar level (maybe just ever so slightly less forgiving) to the Onoffs which I consider very forgiving.

That's very interesting about the 2011 on/off Shac, glad i'm not the only one who thought they felt great and are forgiving.  Surprising distance as well, i took out a bunch of my  forged 89pw irons the other day and the on/offs are  the softest of the group.  Seemed to be getting at least a 1/2 club longer as well, not that that is needed but it surprised me.  Compared them to my i200's as well, and had the same results.  Thinking i will need some more testing with the on/off's vs the i200's.  The on/off feel better than the i200's but the i200's have great turf interaction [digger] and i like the trajectory of the i200's.  

The PRGR's look damn good thou. Thanks for the follow up.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:43 AM

View PostStonewalled, on 17 May 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

View PostShacco, on 15 May 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:

View PostStonewalled, on 20 April 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

View PostShacco, on 20 April 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

I play the RS Forged. I wouldn't call them blades as they certainly do not play like blades. Wider sole, thicker topline. Very forgiving. They do play more like cavity backs imo. They are plenty long as well. Feel is very good and soft, but I would say they do not feel as pure as a one piece forging. They do have some kind of "synthetic" feel to it. But they do feel very good. Sole grind is similar to the Srixon V-Sole which is very good for me.

Thanks for the info on the RS Forged Shacco.  Was wondering on the feel vs a one piece forged. Kinda didn't want to be disappointed on that.  Sole grind similar to Srixon is ideal for me so that's a plus.

Picked up a set of 2011 On/Off forged and just recently was warm enough to hit a few balls, i was impressed with the feel.  Might be spoiled now. lol.

Funny you mention this. I actually came from a set of 2011 Onoff forged. Best feeling iron I have played. So so soft. The RS forged feel a bit different. When I made the switch, I remember preferring the feel of the Onoffs. But now, I really don't miss it. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying the RS forged feel bad at all. Just different. Still very soft but not as mushy soft as the 2011 Onoff forged. Some people actually don't like the super mushy soft feel of the Onoff because of the lack of feedback. The PRGR will certainly provide a little more feedback. You'd be surprised to find that the forgiveness is on a similar level (maybe just ever so slightly less forgiving) to the Onoffs which I consider very forgiving.

That's very interesting about the 2011 on/off Shac, glad i'm not the only one who thought they felt great and are forgiving.  Surprising distance as well, i took out a bunch of my  forged 89pw irons the other day and the on/offs are  the softest of the group.  Seemed to be getting at least a 1/2 club longer as well, not that that is needed but it surprised me.  Compared them to my i200's as well, and had the same results.  Thinking i will need some more testing with the on/off's vs the i200's.  The on/off feel better than the i200's but the i200's have great turf interaction [digger] and i like the trajectory of the i200's.  

The PRGR's look damn good thou. Thanks for the follow up.

Onoffs are quite long but they are also on the stronger side for loft. But they also fly quite high so no issues getting them to stop on greens. The PRGR RS forged have a bit of a more penetrating flight for me which suits me a bit better (natural high ball hitter). That is why I get similar if not slightly longer distances off of them.
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