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7 wood over a 4 hybrid


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#1 sthazza

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:53 AM

Hey folks,

I'm thinking of getting a 7 wood to go between my 5 wood and 5 iron (19 and 22 degrees respectively).  I don't hit long irons or even the 5 iron too well but the 5 iron is handy for low punch shots.  I tend to hit with a shallow divot too and my swing speed is fairly slow.

From what I've read over the forum would I be right in thinking the 7 wood may be a better fit over a hybrid?  Nowhere to try a 7 wood out near me so I'll probably buy used if I'm going to give it a go.

Any tried and tested 7 woods or hybrids that may be better?

Is the 5 wood to 7 wood a good gap as I have a 4 wood too?

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 12:17 PM

I prefer the 7-wood. I hit it higher and farther than a 4-hybrid. My gapping is: 17º/21º/25º...the 7-wood being 21º.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 12:35 PM

I've played 'em both and prefer the 7WD. You should be able to find a used one priced very reasonably and decide if it'll work for you.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 12:42 PM

Iím a short knocker, and the 7 wood has become my go to club. I can hit it high or low and can control the distance great. Use it from 165 all the way to 180. Canít really pin point why but the combination of shorter shaft and larger head just works for me. I use the Cobra F7 7-8 wood went this way so I had some adjustability to fit in where I needed it.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:44 PM

For those that have replied so far what club are you playing above the 7?  A 3/4/5 wood?


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:46 PM

17º wood, then driver.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 02:11 PM

Check out the Heavenwood. Replaced my 3HL wood off the deck and 3 hybrid and even a 4 iron.  

7 wood loft. 4/5 wood head size and length. I choke up a little because I'm short.

I got the epic in brand new condition from Callaway pre owned eBay for about $100. Turned it down to 19 degrees and it's my hit as far I can club.

When I'm swinging woods well it's high straight and long. I'm a slow swinger.  Up to 90mph driver

Tried out the Rogue heavenwood didn't like it and it's not adjustable.

Edited by jdang307, 15 April 2018 - 02:13 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:14 PM

I've been playing 4W + 7W + 4H since 2012. I have a modest 87 MPH driver CHS, and I find the 4W + 7W equals the 3W + 5W in distance and delivers more reliable launches.

On FWs, I had one wasted year with too-light shafted first-gen RBZ, four good years with XRails and am entering year two with Alpha 815s. Have had variety of 4Hs, settled on Cobras.

The 7W and 4H have been competing as my go-to clubs for tee shots on tricky short par 4 and longish par 3 holes. 7W has proven excellent for blasting ball out of medium rough - better than hybrid - and for approach shots when 4W is too much.

I find distance overlap comes in 7W and 3H, with 3H launching lower. (3H goes in bag in November through March, when winds are higher and the rough thinner).

Some of the PGA Tour long hitters swapped their 2i for a 7W in the pre-hybrid late 1990s.

sthazza, I'm not sure what you play, but here are possibilities: Callaway FW models often have a 7W  | TM offers the 5W.HL | and Cobra offers 5-6 FWY (17*-20*) and 7-8 FWY (21*-24*).

Edited by ChipNRun, 15 April 2018 - 04:16 PM.

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Driver:  Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
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Irons: Calla X20 Tour 4i-9i / NS Pro 8950GH R-flex 97 gr.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:21 PM

View Poststhazza, on 15 April 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

For those that have replied so far what club are you playing above the 7?  A 3/4/5 wood?

I play 3 wood 5 wood 7 wood

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:36 PM

I go 4w, 7w, 4h

FYI, 7w is a 3h distance, and maybe even a touch longer.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:36 PM

I play driver, 5 wood, 7 wood and then 24 degree hybrid.  5 wood is a Ping G set to 18.5, 7 wood is 21, and 24 degree hybrid. Ping G 5 wood is easier to hit than a 3 wood and not much shorter and more versatile. I really like the 7 wood. Good for tee shots, fairways, light rough, and is easy to launch.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:16 PM

View Poststhazza, on 15 April 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

For those that have replied so far what club are you playing above the 7?  A 3/4/5 wood?

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:24 PM

I have 17.5deg. 5w, 20deg. 7w, 24deg. 9w and a 28deg. 11w. I tend to deloft clubs at address, so these give me better height than long irons. They also don't hook they way hybrids tend to do for me.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:24 PM

To me loft and shaft length have a bearing on these type of discussions. "3 woods" now can be roughly from 13˚ or so (strong 3W) to 16˚, "4 woods"  16˚ to 17.5*,  "5 woods" 18˚ to 21˚ (HL).  Plus makers like Cobra that have wider adjustabilty range for 3-4 woods, 5-6 woods etc. Not to mention the 20-21 or so (often adjustable) Heavenwood models 42.75- 43 inches long. I've probably left some out.

OP, I'm going to guess there is only 5-10 yards difference between your 4W and 5W. What's the gap between your 5I that you say you don't it well and 5W? And 6i to 5W?  I'm thinking eventually you might want to consider TWO clubs covering 6i to 5W (or more likely to to 4W) to dial in scoring yardages.   If you are mostly using the 5i for punchouts, I think you could learn to do that with  a lower lofted choked down fairway, or hybrid if you went that route.

Not sure if you have tried hybrids from your posts?  Much easier for lots of folks to hit than longer irons, even 5 r 6 irons. For me, a slow swinger senior, the 7W has gone more like 51/2 to 4H length the few times I went back to one the last few years, not 3H length, at least any more.  

This year I went with a 19˚ adjustable 5W between my 16˚ "3 wood" and 4 hybrid, replacing my 3H.   Not that different than the Heavenwood suggestions on here for loft and shaft length.  If I didn't then go to 4H, 5H, I could possibly go 9W to replace both hybrids.

So, if you don't want to go four-five-ish hybrid, I'm going to suggest you might first try finding a deal (like on Callaway Preowned) for a 9 wood, and see where that leaves you. Maybe a choked down 5W between the 9W and 4W will cover your gaps well, and cover you to your first irons. Or you may decide to later add a seven wood or the Heavenwood between the 4W and 9W (or 4-5 hybrid) with no 5W. Or, as I said, just choke up on the 5W as needed, followed by a 9W (or 5ish hybrid).

Good luck!

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:36 PM

I had a ping g30 7w with the ping tour stiff shaft or whatever they call it. I was dumb to ever sell it. It was crazy good.  I thought an epic heavenwood would be more magical. While good it didn't compare to g30.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:44 PM

Mine is 4 wood, 7 wood, 4 hybrid, 5 hybrid, and then the irons. The 7 wood is easier to hit than the hybrid, and both woods are the F7's.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:45 PM

Two best ever .. good prices as well

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:46 PM

Had same issue and did a lot of testing and settled on ping wood over hybrids
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:08 PM

Past 11 years.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:15 PM

7 wood shaft is a lot longer than a hybrid and consequently I struggle with contact.  I'm a higher handicap player, ended last season playing off 18.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:40 PM

View Poststhazza, on 15 April 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

Hey folks,

I'm thinking of getting a 7 wood to go between my 5 wood and 5 iron (19 and 22 degrees respectively).  I don't hit long irons or even the 5 iron too well but the 5 iron is handy for low punch shots.  I tend to hit with a shallow divot too and my swing speed is fairly slow.

From what I've read over the forum would I be right in thinking the 7 wood may be a better fit over a hybrid?  Nowhere to try a 7 wood out near me so I'll probably buy used if I'm going to give it a go.

Any tried and tested 7 woods or hybrids that may be better?

Is the 5 wood to 7 wood a good gap as I have a 4 wood too?

Cheers

This is a thread that I really enjoy because it's about golfers that I can relate to in clubhead speed and handicaps.

To answer your question: Presently I'm all hybrids after my 3 wood but I do have a Heavenwood that I sometimes put in the bag that would be between my 3 wood and 4H or 5H. I like the Heavenwood over the 7 wood because of the larger head and how easy it is to hit high. Hope this helps.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:17 PM

I like a 7 wood at 65g and 41-41.5 inches.

I carry Driver, 4 wd, 7 wd, 4h, 5-PW, or I could add a 5 wd and forget the 4H.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:10 PM

I used to be a 7 wood guy until I tried hybrids again.  I find the hybrid much easier to make good contact with due to the shorter shaft.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:15 AM

7 wood with a short shaft. Same length as a 4h. Absolute mortar launcher. Very versitile too. Choke down, off speed, hack it out of the crap, etc. Favorite club in the bag!
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:36 AM

I play driver, 4 wood, and 7 wood, then 4 iron. I can easily play 4 hybrid instead of 7 wood. For my swing, 7 wood hits little higher and longer(about 10 yards) and more forgiving while 4 hybrid is easier to control the trajectory and shape the shots.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:17 AM

View PostHit em good, on 15 April 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

I go 4w, 7w, 4h

FYI, 7w is a 3h distance, and maybe even a touch longer.
even if the 7w and the 4h have 21 and 22 static loft respectivily?
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:27 AM

I carried a 7W for many, many years, most recently a Ping G30.  Always felt like it was a pretty versatile club, and I hit it pretty high as well.

However, I did some careful study of my distances, and came to find that I was hitting the 4 hybrid not only slightly farther, but MUCH more consistently and with tighter dispersion.  In retrospect, I think I had been fooled by the height of the ball flight of the 7W into thinking that I was hitting it farther than I actually was.  So out came the 7W; the 4 hybrid is just a lot easier to hit, and the bad shots aren't nearly as bad.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:36 AM

Lots of good points in this thread. Mostly comes down to personal preference and what your swing is like. My personal preference is I would never choose a 7 wood over a 4 hybrid but that's simply because i like hitting hybrids. I grew up hitting hybrids not woods so I've grown used to them. I didn't even carry a 3 wood until a few years ago. In that gap you are looking to fill seems like a 7W would work for you. Maybe even a shorted 7W would fill the gap nicely and be easier to hit.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:45 AM

View Postn_rones, on 16 April 2018 - 07:36 AM, said:

Lots of good points in this thread. Mostly comes down to personal preference and what your swing is like. My personal preference is I would never choose a 7 wood over a 4 hybrid but that's simply because i like hitting hybrids. I grew up hitting hybrids not woods so I've grown used to them. I didn't even carry a 3 wood until a few years ago. In that gap you are looking to fill seems like a 7W would work for you. Maybe even a shorted 7W would fill the gap nicely and be easier to hit.

Good point, all the guys my age (50) grew up hitting woods .. wood woods to boot if you know what I mean
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:19 AM

D9.5* at 45", fw16* at 42", fw21* at 41" and then 4i 23* at 39". I find the distance is great enough between my GBB Heavenwood and 4i to counteract the 2* loft difference. The Heavenwood is awesome. See my signature.

Driver: Taylormade M1 2017 10.5* + Accra FX470 M5, 44", MCC Plus 4.
FW: Callaway GBB 3w 17* + Accra FX200f, 41.5", MCC Plus 4.
HY: Ping G20 20*/23*/27* + Accra FX200h M5/FX300h M4, 39", MCC Plus 4.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - gw + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Miura WMF-06 53*/58*, Black Gold x, Superstroke.
Putter: Rife Barbados island.

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