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#91 huddledtoast

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 12:50 PM

Replaced my mediocre nike blade putter with a mid-mallet (squareback type) Bettinardi.

Got fitted for my driver.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:34 PM

Three biggest changes in the last year for me.

Shortening my driver shaft to 44 3/4"/45" depending on the day.

Going from the Spider Black to the Ardmore 2.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 02:22 PM

View PostJOHN GOLIA, on 14 April 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

From beer to vodka :derisive:

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 02:46 PM

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

View Postthird-times-a-charm, on 14 April 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

2) embracing the 3 wood, and not fearing it because everyone says they hate them
3) same thing for the hybrid...embrace the hybrid, dont hate it.

Good, good.... let the hate flow through you.   Discover the power of the dark side 3 wood.

Pine,

From what I've seen of your posts I know you like distance (as do I for a lot of good reasons).  But I've had 3 wood in the bag almost every year for the 13 years I've been playing golf and this year decided to try out a Rogue 4 wood.  I liked the smaller size of the 4 wood head vs. the 3 wood (front to back).  Not only this, but most importantly the 4 wood has done something the 3 wood hasn't.  The 4 wood has given me the confidence and consistency to strike the golf ball better from the deck than any fairway wood I've owned.  I can tell you from a distance stand point that the 4 wood on average has been just as long if not longer than 3 woods I have bagged in the past.  I know you like 3 woods and I am assuming it is because you in fact do hit a 3 wood with consistently off the deck, but isn't there players out there that can benefit more from bagging a 4 wood vs. 3 wood; like my case that I've found, consistancy of strikes from the deck and similar distance to a 3 wood?  I was understanding Matt Kuchar had only a 4 wood in the bag for quite some time.  I think the latest WITB shows he now has a Titleist 917 3 Wood set at +1 (16 degrees) so not quite a 4 wood anymore.  

The longest 3 wood I can remember hitting was 240 yards.  I'd say on average to better strikes I would normally hit 3 wood 220-235 in pretty neutral conditions.  When I played Thursday I hit the new 4 wood 235 off the tee and on the next hole 230 off the deck.  I guess my point is; I am comfortable with the look and performance of this 4 wood and it goes just as far as I normally would have hit a 3 wood previously if not further.  Curious if you think everyone should be gaming a 3 wood?

I think Golf is an incredibly hard game because it is so easy to lie to yourself.  In most sports there are a ton of “reality checks” (like a coach) that prevent people from telling themselves nonsense about how the game works. In individual sports, like chess or tennis, there is at least an opponent. In Golf it’s just you. Worse still, the games skills all bleed into one another. If you go 0 for 8 from 3 point range you can draw certain conclusions. If someone doesn’t make putts, is it the stroke? Not hitting it close enough? Who knows. Short game same thing. Most great short game players are great course managers. They don’t just hit seven circus shots a round. Most golfers don’t have magic Clubs. They are just as inaccurate as the loft and length and just as long as the loft and speed. The four wood is a little shorter and a little more accurate than the three wood (for most). Yet golfers will tell themselves nonsense praying it will make a difference. It likely will not.

Golfers are also awful at risk versus reward calculations. They are way too cautious. Studies have shown par putts are made at a higher rate than birdie putts due to this phenomenon (were more scared of bogies than pumped for birdies, even though both are one stroke).  The disasters with 3 wood are obvious - shanks, OB, etc. the plus side (a little closer on most holes for a season) is in fractions of a stroke. Our brains remember really bad and really good things much more than mundane things. They also talk in extremes and Golf is played in grey, so a few bad 3 woods become “I can’t hit a 3 wood”.

If you have done the work and you actually are better with 4 wood, play one. 100%. But most of the time it’s not based in fact. It’s somebody upset that they’ve had a bad run and who is desperate to convince themselves it’s the club to blame, and they make it worse by taking out a longer club for no reason that has a basis in reality.  As I’ve said in other threads, IMO, the best way to make the call is:

1. Actually study your game and build a bag for
It using actual records of your rounds, not your memory

2. Assume you are average and build a bag that makes sense for most golfers (ie no magic Clubs)

3. Build a bag based on a combination of fear of looking dumb plus trying to remember your rounds with no assistance.

I just don’t like number 3.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:23 PM

1. I found my 2nd driver & Longest Club off the Turf.  It's a TEE e8 beta 12° and I can hit it pretty darn straight AND off the deck.  This club is currently my best strokes gained approach club, and it's not even close.  Of the last 7 months, I have been + in strokes gained off the turf with this club.  And yes, that is compared to the fellas on TV.
1. The correct grind on my primary pitching club.  A channel grind on a more "traditional" shaped wedge.  My miss hits around the green look to be much more playable
2. A complete change in putting style and so, a 38" putter.  Alleviate back pain, see the line better, AND better speed control?  Yes sir!
3. I may have actually found my driver.  If so, look out.  Of the 3.x points off of scratch that I currently am, 3+ of them, per round, can be directly attributed to my driver.  If I actually have found the right weapon, I might just be dangerous.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:59 PM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

View Postthird-times-a-charm, on 14 April 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

2) embracing the 3 wood, and not fearing it because everyone says they hate them
3) same thing for the hybrid...embrace the hybrid, dont hate it.

Good, good.... let the hate flow through you.   Discover the power of the dark side 3 wood.

Pine,

From what I've seen of your posts I know you like distance (as do I for a lot of good reasons).  But I've had 3 wood in the bag almost every year for the 13 years I've been playing golf and this year decided to try out a Rogue 4 wood.  I liked the smaller size of the 4 wood head vs. the 3 wood (front to back).  Not only this, but most importantly the 4 wood has done something the 3 wood hasn't.  The 4 wood has given me the confidence and consistency to strike the golf ball better from the deck than any fairway wood I've owned.  I can tell you from a distance stand point that the 4 wood on average has been just as long if not longer than 3 woods I have bagged in the past.  I know you like 3 woods and I am assuming it is because you in fact do hit a 3 wood with consistently off the deck, but isn't there players out there that can benefit more from bagging a 4 wood vs. 3 wood; like my case that I've found, consistancy of strikes from the deck and similar distance to a 3 wood?  I was understanding Matt Kuchar had only a 4 wood in the bag for quite some time.  I think the latest WITB shows he now has a Titleist 917 3 Wood set at +1 (16 degrees) so not quite a 4 wood anymore.  

The longest 3 wood I can remember hitting was 240 yards.  I'd say on average to better strikes I would normally hit 3 wood 220-235 in pretty neutral conditions.  When I played Thursday I hit the new 4 wood 235 off the tee and on the next hole 230 off the deck.  I guess my point is; I am comfortable with the look and performance of this 4 wood and it goes just as far as I normally would have hit a 3 wood previously if not further.  Curious if you think everyone should be gaming a 3 wood?

I think Golf is an incredibly hard game because it is so easy to lie to yourself.  In most sports there are a ton of “reality checks” (like a coach) that prevent people from telling themselves nonsense about how the game works. In individual sports, like chess or tennis, there is at least an opponent. In Golf it’s just you. Worse still, the games skills all bleed into one another. If you go 0 for 8 from 3 point range you can draw certain conclusions. If someone doesn’t make putts, is it the stroke? Not hitting it close enough? Who knows. Short game same thing. Most great short game players are great course managers. They don’t just hit seven circus shots a round. Most golfers don’t have magic Clubs. They are just as inaccurate as the loft and length and just as long as the loft and speed. The four wood is a little shorter and a little more accurate than the three wood (for most). Yet golfers will tell themselves nonsense praying it will make a difference. It likely will not.

Golfers are also awful at risk versus reward calculations. They are way too cautious. Studies have shown par putts are made at a higher rate than birdie putts due to this phenomenon (were more scared of bogies than pumped for birdies, even though both are one stroke).  The disasters with 3 wood are obvious - shanks, OB, etc. the plus side (a little closer on most holes for a season) is in fractions of a stroke. Our brains remember really bad and really good things much more than mundane things. They also talk in extremes and Golf is played in grey, so a few bad 3 woods become “I can’t hit a 3 wood”.

If you have done the work and you actually are better with 4 wood, play one. 100%. But most of the time it’s not based in fact. It’s somebody upset that they’ve had a bad run and who is desperate to convince themselves it’s the club to blame, and they make it worse by taking out a longer club for no reason that has a basis in reality.  As I’ve said in other threads, IMO, the best way to make the call is:

1. Actually study your game and build a bag for
It using actual records of your rounds, not your memory

2. Assume you are average and build a bag that makes sense for most golfers (ie no magic Clubs)

3. Build a bag based on a combination of fear of looking dumb plus trying to remember your rounds with no assistance.

I just don’t like number 3.

I guess I’ve always launched a 3 wood low too.  The 4W launches higher which I like.  Kind of the same reason I go with a 3 hybrid rather than a 3 iron, high and soft as well as added distance.  I guess if I saw logic in adding a 3 wood to the bag and ways it would benefit my game then I’d do so.  But a 3 wood doesn’t go any farther for me than the Rogue 4W.  Or maybe I haven’t ran into enough combinations of 3 woods yet.  In any event I was curious if you thought every average to better player should be carrying 3 wood.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:53 PM

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

I guess if I saw logic in adding a 3 wood to the bag and ways it would benefit my game then I’d do so.

It is incredibly difficult to logically build your own bag.  You are too passionate about it and your memory is awful for the task (it remembers in extremes, golf is grey).  Your post here is kinda my point.  Its incredibly unlikely that you can analyze yourself well.  Most golfers tell themselves nonsense narratives that are way too extreme to be true.

Take 90 days and every time you hit 4 wood, also hit a 3 wood and vice versa (within reason, obviously).  Play whichever one averages the lowest score*.  This is much more likely to lead to an optimal bag than you speculating on whether or not a high launch is good and then trying to spitball which is going farther over the course of forty rounds you barely remember.

"I think I hit 4 wood longer, it launches higher and looks better, its probably best for me." <- just flip a coin to decide which to play.  It has as good a chance as being right.

*Ideally you'd use strokes gained to factor out all the other strokes on the hole, but I realize not everyone is as into that approach as I am.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:56 PM

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:56 PM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

I guess if I saw logic in adding a 3 wood to the bag and ways it would benefit my game then I’d do so.

It is incredibly difficult to logically build your own bag.  You are too passionate about it and your memory is awful for the task (it remembers in extremes, golf is grey).  Your post here is kinda my point.  Its incredibly unlikely that you can analyze yourself well.  Most golfers tell themselves nonsense narratives that are way too extreme to be true.

Take 90 days and every time you hit 4 wood, also hit a 3 wood and vice versa (within reason, obviously).  Play whichever one averages the lowest score*.  This is much more likely to lead to an optimal bag than you speculating on whether or not a high launch is good and then trying to spitball which is going farther over the course of forty rounds you barely remember.

"I think I hit 4 wood longer, it launches higher and looks better, its probably best for me." <- just flip a coin to decide which to play.  It has as good a chance as being right.

*Ideally you'd use strokes gained to factor out all the other strokes on the hole, but I realize not everyone is as into that approach as I am.

4 wood launches higher than any 3 wood I’ve bagged and goes near the identical distance on average if at times farther.  This isn’t speculating.  This is what has happened.  Just keep it simple.

Just because you may hit 3W farther than 4W that doesn’t mean everybody can..
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:06 PM

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

I guess if I saw logic in adding a 3 wood to the bag and ways it would benefit my game then I’d do so.

It is incredibly difficult to logically build your own bag.  You are too passionate about it and your memory is awful for the task (it remembers in extremes, golf is grey).  Your post here is kinda my point.  Its incredibly unlikely that you can analyze yourself well.  Most golfers tell themselves nonsense narratives that are way too extreme to be true.

Take 90 days and every time you hit 4 wood, also hit a 3 wood and vice versa (within reason, obviously).  Play whichever one averages the lowest score*.  This is much more likely to lead to an optimal bag than you speculating on whether or not a high launch is good and then trying to spitball which is going farther over the course of forty rounds you barely remember.

"I think I hit 4 wood longer, it launches higher and looks better, its probably best for me." <- just flip a coin to decide which to play.  It has as good a chance as being right.

*Ideally you'd use strokes gained to factor out all the other strokes on the hole, but I realize not everyone is as into that approach as I am.

4 wood launches higher than any 3 wood I’ve bagged and goes near the identical distance on average if at times farther.  This isn’t speculating.  This is what has happened.  Just keep it simple.

Just because you may hit 3W farther than 4W that doesn’t mean everybody can..

And to be fair, it’s probably also a change of less stiff of stiff shafts all across my bag with the combo of the 4 wood head that has lead to the higher launch that it has over my past gamed 3 woods.  In any event it’s better and what I have aimed at with this switch in my bag.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:23 PM

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 09:06 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

I guess if I saw logic in adding a 3 wood to the bag and ways it would benefit my game then I’d do so.

It is incredibly difficult to logically build your own bag.  You are too passionate about it and your memory is awful for the task (it remembers in extremes, golf is grey).  Your post here is kinda my point.  Its incredibly unlikely that you can analyze yourself well.  Most golfers tell themselves nonsense narratives that are way too extreme to be true.

Take 90 days and every time you hit 4 wood, also hit a 3 wood and vice versa (within reason, obviously).  Play whichever one averages the lowest score*.  This is much more likely to lead to an optimal bag than you speculating on whether or not a high launch is good and then trying to spitball which is going farther over the course of forty rounds you barely remember.

"I think I hit 4 wood longer, it launches higher and looks better, its probably best for me." <- just flip a coin to decide which to play.  It has as good a chance as being right.

*Ideally you'd use strokes gained to factor out all the other strokes on the hole, but I realize not everyone is as into that approach as I am.

4 wood launches higher than any 3 wood I’ve bagged and goes near the identical distance on average if at times farther.  This isn’t speculating.  This is what has happened.  Just keep it simple.

Just because you may hit 3W farther than 4W that doesn’t mean everybody can..

And to be fair, it’s probably also a change of less stiff of stiff shafts all across my bag with the combo of the 4 wood head that has lead to the higher launch that it has over my past gamed 3 woods.  In any event it’s better and what I have aimed at with this switch in my bag.

Of course it launches higher.  It has more loft.  What we don't know is if higher launch = lower scores.  But it doesn't really matter.  I explained what I think and you're certainly free to disagree and build your bag how you choose!

This is a cool topic, love to hear more stories about equipment that has been transformational.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:37 PM

definitely switching to a 4 wood and getting a superstroke on my putter
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:20 AM

Finally got fitted for a driver last year and that has made a huge difference in finding the fairway. Also changed to midsize grips and that has seemed to help some.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:59 AM

SAM Fitting for putter - ended up in Spider Platinum - noticeable difference
Ping G400 hybrids and woods - fitted - and so much more consistent than previous clubs

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:18 AM

Becoming a shaft ho helped me improve my flight and accuracy

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:26 AM

Something from the past but 4-5 years ago my ball striking was the worst part of my game and i switched from a set of R7 TP irons to AP1 714s. I'm not sure if it was the extra confidence i had in those clubs or the actual help they provided but i shaved 4 strokes off my Handicap that summer.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:09 AM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 09:06 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 15 April 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 15 April 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

I guess if I saw logic in adding a 3 wood to the bag and ways it would benefit my game then I’d do so.

It is incredibly difficult to logically build your own bag.  You are too passionate about it and your memory is awful for the task (it remembers in extremes, golf is grey).  Your post here is kinda my point.  Its incredibly unlikely that you can analyze yourself well.  Most golfers tell themselves nonsense narratives that are way too extreme to be true.

Take 90 days and every time you hit 4 wood, also hit a 3 wood and vice versa (within reason, obviously).  Play whichever one averages the lowest score*.  This is much more likely to lead to an optimal bag than you speculating on whether or not a high launch is good and then trying to spitball which is going farther over the course of forty rounds you barely remember.

"I think I hit 4 wood longer, it launches higher and looks better, its probably best for me." <- just flip a coin to decide which to play.  It has as good a chance as being right.

*Ideally you'd use strokes gained to factor out all the other strokes on the hole, but I realize not everyone is as into that approach as I am.

4 wood launches higher than any 3 wood I’ve bagged and goes near the identical distance on average if at times farther.  This isn’t speculating.  This is what has happened.  Just keep it simple.

Just because you may hit 3W farther than 4W that doesn’t mean everybody can..

And to be fair, it’s probably also a change of less stiff of stiff shafts all across my bag with the combo of the 4 wood head that has lead to the higher launch that it has over my past gamed 3 woods.  In any event it’s better and what I have aimed at with this switch in my bag.

Of course it launches higher.  It has more loft.  What we don't know is if higher launch = lower scores.  But it doesn't really matter.  I explained what I think and you're certainly free to disagree and build your bag how you choose!

This is a cool topic, love to hear more stories about equipment that has been transformational.

With all due respect you are most definitely “enjoying” the wrong thread with your analytical approach in selecting equipment.

There is a good chance over 70% of these posts are bought solely on short term practice results.  Not by rounds upon rounds of golf.

I just don’t see how one can make claims on another’s equipment when YOU haven’t seen me swing the club with success.  I’ll agree, different results are in each of the eyes beholder.  Golfers goals through out their bag are different then the next bag.  I’ll leave it at that.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:15 AM

I was fit for a 3 wood last summer at Club Champion, that has significantly improved my performance with that club.  I used to leave the 3 wood out of my bag most of the time, because I had such a tendency to hook it out of play.  Now I am able to actually attack some of our par 5's with confidence that I'll at least be somewhere around the green, and still in play.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:44 AM

View PostZ4Par, on 16 April 2018 - 07:09 AM, said:

With all due respect you are most definitely “enjoying” the wrong thread with your analytical approach in selecting equipment.

There is a good chance over 70% of these posts are bought solely on short term practice results.  Not by rounds upon rounds of golf.

I just don’t see how one can make claims on another’s equipment when YOU haven’t seen me swing the club with success.  I’ll agree, different results are in each of the eyes beholder.  Golfers goals through out their bag are different then the next bag.  I’ll leave it at that.

1. You literally asked me by name for my opinion, in this thread.

2. 70%+ of people are making mistakes in how they choose their equipment.

3. I have no idea if your equipment is good or bad, but I think your method is lousy.

I'm surprised at the sheer number of replies that mention the putter and the few that mention the ball.  Interesting.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:59 AM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 16 April 2018 - 07:44 AM, said:

View PostZ4Par, on 16 April 2018 - 07:09 AM, said:

With all due respect you are most definitely “enjoying” the wrong thread with your analytical approach in selecting equipment.

There is a good chance over 70% of these posts are bought solely on short term practice results.  Not by rounds upon rounds of golf.

I just don’t see how one can make claims on another’s equipment when YOU haven’t seen me swing the club with success.  I’ll agree, different results are in each of the eyes beholder.  Golfers goals through out their bag are different then the next bag.  I’ll leave it at that.

1. You literally asked me by name for my opinion, in this thread.

2. 70%+ of people are making mistakes in how they choose their equipment.

3. I have no idea if your equipment is good or bad, but I think your method is lousy.

I'm surprised at the sheer number of replies that mention the putter and the few that mention the ball.  Interesting.

**hands in the air**

I give up.  We both think each other’s ways are lousy.  Thanks for the opinion.  Even though I respectfully disagree.

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#111 Sean2

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:08 AM

I think once you find the equipment that works well for you it might be a good idea to stick with it. I used to do a lot of buying and selling, but I didn't notice any real improvement in my game. Last year was the first time I didn't purchase anything, and my HI dropped 5 points. Yes, my swing was probably better, but I think playing the same equipment day in and day out helped too.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:37 AM

Realizing that at 6ft4 in spikes I canít olay off the rack irons or wedges. Adding an inch ( 38 3/4 5 iron ) and playing pw-lob same length shaved 2 strokes off my average overnight.  And added gobs of length.  

I used to dive down at the ball with a lob wedge and a full shot.  Now an off the rack wedge looks like a juniors club to me.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:10 AM

View PostLilRabbit, on 15 April 2018 - 01:34 PM, said:

Three biggest changes in the last year for me.

Shortening my driver shaft to 44 3/4"/45" depending on the day.

Going from the Spider Black to the Ardmore 2.

Gaming Nippon Modus 120's over C-Tapers.

What did the Nippons give you that the C-Tapers didn't? I hear so much good about the Nippons
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:25 AM

Give up trying to hit a 3 hybrid an 3HL off the deck, essentially replaced with a Epic Heavenwood tuned down to 19.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:54 AM

Without a doubt, paying for the upgrade to matching shafts in my wedges and not using the "wedge flex" stock shafts. Made a world of difference being able to hit controlled wedge shots.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:56 PM

Switched from a life long project x 6.0 used to KBS Tour. More height and distance, real eye opener. Not knocking PX, just be careful with the flex 6.0 is a lot of shaft for a majority of golfers, especially since its very common and a stock shaft in a lot of forged iron sets .
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 01:07 PM

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 01:45 PM

Fitted driver ...shorter than standard length.
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Keeping it in the fairway almost every time sets me up for a good chance at hitting the greens on my approach, and the mallet putter helps me take the dreaded 3 putt of the table.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 01:55 PM

View Postbrianmontgomery2000, on 13 April 2018 - 09:59 PM, said:

Really only one -- left the game in about 1997 and came back 2008 still with my original Big Bertha.  Replaced that with a 460 cc driver.  THAT is a huge difference.

Irons-wise, the King Cobra Oversizes could still be in my bag and I'd not notice that much (if any) difference from the Ping i20's that replaced them.  Ditto the Big Bertha 3-wood versus the RBZ 3HL that replaced it.

I have noticed that although driver volumes have increased since the mid 90s, face area hasn't by that much. The Cally Warbird driver had way enough face area even for an inconsistent swing. I realize that greater clubhead volume means that MOI is increased which resists face rotation and twisting. But when it comes to FWs, I don't understand that modern clubs have tiny shallow micro faces. Huh? My Cally Warbird 3w has a much bigger face than almost all modern 3ws. Can anyone explain how or why?
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:54 PM

A couple changes have really helped my game; A few years ago I switched to a mallet putter.  The extra forgivement/stability helped me hole more putts and leave my misses closer to the hole.  The other change is shortening my driver from 45.5" to 44.75".  I am longer, straighter and more confident off the tee than ever before.


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