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#1021 bladehunter

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?!    although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:10 PM

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.

Or....could be the chemical nerve agent the Russians use to poison dissidents was rendered  ineffective from all the Chick-Fil-A, Patrick has been eating.  Anyway I am pretty sure the truth will come to light on next Sunday's edition of Homeland.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?! although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the tommy copper compression sleeves do you?  Seriously groaty.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:18 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?! although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the tommy copper compression sleeves do you?  Seriously groaty.

nope.. but i have been told i have a "magnetic personality"!   :swoon:
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:37 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:10 PM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.

Or....could be the chemical nerve agent the Russians use to poison dissidents was rendered  ineffective from all the Chick-Fil-A, Patrick has been eating.  Anyway I am pretty sure the truth will come to light on next Sunday's edition of Homeland.

I think this confirms my suspicions.  https://www.golfchannel.com/article/grill-room/trump-congratulates-reed-great-and-courageous-win/

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:41 PM

View Post15th Club, on 16 April 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

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34 pages of this s*** and you're just deciding you don't care?!?!?

To be clear, I don't care about "Ashley Shaeffer's" comments or sarcasm.  And, I don't care what the majority of the GolfWRX readership cares, about Alan Shipnuck, or about Rules violation call-ins, or about a ball rollback, or about the administration of the USGA.

I do want readers of this site to know that there are other opinions.

Since you are unwilling to subject yourself to the same level of discourse you accuse Patrick Reed of avoiding, I submit my final conclusion on the matter:

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:11 PM

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

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View PostChief Cowpie, on 16 April 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Hey you all. Having a great time at Coachella! A golfe's wife has every right to get her in-laws escorted off the course as would a golfer have every right to have his in-laws done with the same. In my first marriage, my in-laws were the worst and I made a vow that I WOULD NEVER MAKE THIS SAME MISTAKE AGAIN and got to know the parents before tying the knot again for THE NEXT TWO MARRIAGES as I will again FOR THE FOURTH. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. A FOOL NO MORE. Thanks you all. Hit Em straight or whatever your preference is.
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CP, This is hands down THE greatest post in this thread😜😜

I hope that you're well and and have a great season Bro⛳️

All the Best🍻
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lol   im juts catching up and this cracked me up.....i wondered if anyone else caught what he said .... holy crap thats a good post... " or whatever your preference is "...  wow !
It sounds as though Chief has the in-laws schtick down pat and he just has to bone up on the wife thingy😜

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:30 PM

View PostForged4ever, on 16 April 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 16 April 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

View PostChief Cowpie, on 16 April 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Hey you all. Having a great time at Coachella! A golfe's wife has every right to get her in-laws escorted off the course as would a golfer have every right to have his in-laws done with the same. In my first marriage, my in-laws were the worst and I made a vow that I WOULD NEVER MAKE THIS SAME MISTAKE AGAIN and got to know the parents before tying the knot again for THE NEXT TWO MARRIAGES as I will again FOR THE FOURTH. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. A FOOL NO MORE. Thanks you all. Hit Em straight or whatever your preference is.
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CP, This is hands down THE greatest post in this thread😜😜

I hope that you're well and and have a great season Bro⛳️

All the Best🍻
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lol   im juts catching up and this cracked me up.....i wondered if anyone else caught what he said .... holy crap thats a good post... " or whatever your preference is "...  wow !
It sounds as though Chief has the in-laws schtick down pat and he just has to bone up on the wife thingy😜

Have a great week🍻
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Yep. i thought  it was 2 strikes and you’re out !  Lol.  Maybe he’s focusing too much on the in laws.  You can always move away from them. But her you have to live with !!
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:32 PM

Reed be like

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https://www.ajc.com/...aVsqUQR1cm6umN/


How long can Patrick Reed wear the Masters green jacket in public?


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:42 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?!    although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the TOMMY COPPER COMPRESSION SLEEVES  do you?  Seriously groaty.
I’m having more fun derailing this thread than when I was semi-on point😂😂

My Godfather(Joseph Maroon, MD) was a spokesperson for Tommy Copper and did one of those stupid arse 3:00am infomercials for his sleeves😂😂

He’s as big a narcissist as my father as he brought a dvd of the infomercial over to my rents’ house for my birthday dinner😜😜

Then he was “hurt” cuz we wouldn’t watch the whole thing, lmao

He’s my Mother/Father’s closest friend since they were kids,  Best Man in their wedding, yada yada yada and he got pissed at my dad cuz he wouldn’t buy any sleeves and my dad got pissed at Joe cuz he wouldn’t give him any sleeves and they didn’t speak for close to three months till my Mother interceded, lmao

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Have a great season Bro👊

My Best,
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Edited by Forged4ever, 16 April 2018 - 02:44 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:45 PM

Sergio is saying to himself, "that looks like groats."

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:54 PM

View PostForged4ever, on 16 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy's sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller's team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?! although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the TOMMY COPPER COMPRESSION SLEEVES  do you?  Seriously groaty.
I'm having more fun derailing this thread than when I was semi-on point����

My Godfather(Joseph Maroon, MD) was a spokesperson for Tommy Copper and did one of those stupid arse 3:00am infomercials for his sleeves����

He's as big a narcissist as my father as he brought a dvd of the infomercial over to my rents' house for my birthday dinner����

Then he was "hurt" cuz we wouldn't watch the whole thing, lmao

He's my Mother/Father's closest friend since they were kids,  Best Man in their wedding, yada yada yada and he got pissed at my dad cuz he wouldn't buy any sleeves and my dad got pissed at Joe cuz he wouldn't give him any sleeves and they didn't speak for close to three months till my Mother interceded, lmao

The trials and tribulations of family & friends ��

The Performance knee sleeves actually are decent, lol

Have a great season Bro��

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 03:14 PM

my golfer's/tennis elbow did go away after using the sleeve.  Whether or not it was causal, placebo, or coincidental I can't tell you, but  I figured that if it had a one in ten chance of working, and cost $30, since I'd pay at least $300 to make my elbow pain go away, that was good odds.

Anyway, that's the way MY brain works when I'm shelling out $30 for what might be snake oil....

what were we talking about before Richard got us side-tracked?
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 03:15 PM

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Sergio is saying to himself, "that looks like groats."

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Sergio looks like Richard Nixon's Spanish love child in that picture.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 03:17 PM

Wow...this thread is still going strong lol...on a side note I like turtles.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 03:22 PM

View PostForged4ever, on 16 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 15 April 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy's sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller's team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?! although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the TOMMY COPPER COMPRESSION SLEEVES  do you?  Seriously groaty.
I'm having more fun derailing this thread than when I was semi-on point����

My Godfather(Joseph Maroon, MD) was a spokesperson for Tommy Copper and did one of those stupid arse 3:00am infomercials for his sleeves����

He's as big a narcissist as my father as he brought a dvd of the infomercial over to my rents' house for my birthday dinner����

Then he was "hurt" cuz we wouldn't watch the whole thing, lmao

He's my Mother/Father's closest friend since they were kids,  Best Man in their wedding, yada yada yada and he got pissed at my dad cuz he wouldn't buy any sleeves and my dad got pissed at Joe cuz he wouldn't give him any sleeves and they didn't speak for close to three months till my Mother interceded, lmao

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Have a great season Bro��

My Best,
Richard

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:08 PM

View Postmocokid, on 16 April 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 16 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 16 April 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?!    although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the TOMMY COPPER COMPRESSION SLEEVES  do you?  Seriously groaty.
I'm having more fun derailing this thread than when I was semi-on point😂😂

My Godfather(Joseph Maroon, MD) was a spokesperson for Tommy Copper and did one of those stupid arse 3:00am infomercials for his sleeves😝😝

He's as big a narcissist as my father as he brought a dvd of the infomercial over to my rents' house for my birthday dinner😜😜

Then he was "hurt" cuz we wouldn't watch the whole thing, lmao

He's my Mother/Father's closest friend since they were kids,  Best Man in their wedding, yada yada yada and he got pissed at my dad cuz he wouldn't buy any sleeves and my dad got pissed at Joe cuz he wouldn't give him any sleeves and they didn't speak for close to three months till my Mother interceded, lmao

The trials and tribulations of family & friends😉

The Performance knee sleeves actually are decent, lol

Have a great season Bro👊

My Best,
Richard

Is the elbow sleeve good for my golfer's elbow?, mine's pretty beat up hitting balls off matt.  Posted Image
I would say yes as my father uses it for golf, tennis and squash and he’s super fickle, lol

He’s got about every knee and elbow sleeve available and he uses a Copper for both knee and elbow. I believe that they have two lines, a regular and a “Performance” collection/line.  Go with the performance!

Have a great season Moco👊

All the Best,
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:43 PM

All I am going to say is "35 pages????" Seriously???

I figured this was a 5 page thread max. I posted in it very early on, then left on a business trip, come back and see this in my "replies to my posts" summary and see that it is now 35 pages long. Holy cow...

Can't believe there was that much to write about his family life. Are we that bored on WRX waiting for the US Open to start?
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:28 PM

View Postdpark, on 16 April 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

All I am going to say is "35 pages????" Seriously???

I figured this was a 5 page thread max. I posted in it very early on, then left on a business trip, come back and see this in my "replies to my posts" summary and see that it is now 35 pages long. Holy cow...

Can't believe there was that much to write about his family life. Are we that bored on WRX waiting for the US Open to start?

Obviously the answer must be yes for some.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:09 PM

View PostForged4ever, on 16 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

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I just heard from a legitimate source that the root of this dysfunction is the fact the Reed family are Russians spy’s sent here to undermine our democracy. The real reason for the fall out was that Patrick had a real change of heart while representing the USA in team events.

The whole Captain America persona is just PR overcompensating for the guilt he feels for living a life that was a lie, and trying to subvert our nation by destroying the image of the American college system and the NCAA. it seems his time at UGA was spent drinking and carousing, which we all know is unheard of for college students. His parents were so angry that he turned his life around, found a wife he loved, was the hero of 2 NCAA championships that fhe rift occurred.

Vladamir Putin has been rumored to have taken special interest in fhe matter and the Reed family is now being investigated by Robert Mueller’s team. Apparently Shipnuck actually is a CIA agent and the whole interview was just a ruse to collect intelligence.


I heard his dysfunctional youth was the result of years battling Groats.  The widely misunderstood disorder was  "kept silent" by the family and dismissed as a stomach bug.   It left misdiagnosed until an NCAA doctor discovered it during a routine physical when he learned that Reed complained of trouble with multiplication, didn't like citrus drinks and stated that everything tasted like peaches.


crap.... i may have Groats?!    although sometimes the taste is more coppery....

You don't use one of those copper bracelets or the TOMMY COPPER COMPRESSION SLEEVES  do you?  Seriously groaty.
I’m having more fun derailing this thread than when I was semi-on point😂😂

My Godfather(Joseph Maroon, MD) was a spokesperson for Tommy Copper and did one of those stupid arse 3:00am infomercials for his sleeves😂😂

He’s as big a narcissist as my father as he brought a dvd of the infomercial over to my rents’ house for my birthday dinner😜😜

Then he was “hurt” cuz we wouldn’t watch the whole thing, lmao

He’s my Mother/Father’s closest friend since they were kids,  Best Man in their wedding, yada yada yada and he got pissed at my dad cuz he wouldn’t buy any sleeves and my dad got pissed at Joe cuz he wouldn’t give him any sleeves and they didn’t speak for close to three months till my Mother interceded, lmao

The trials and tribulations of family & friends 🤪

The Performance knee sleeves actually are decent, lol

Have a great season Bro👊

My Best,
Richard

Lol.  Glad to hear your old people are just as crazy as our old people.  

My father in law sends my wife $40 in a birthday card evey year.  Through the mail.  He lives 3 minutes away and we see him regularly.  Now here’s the rediculous part ( that wasn’t enough) If she doesn’t give him at least a $40 gift card for his birthday he puffs up and pouts.  This happened once and he actually complained about it to his sister ( wife’s aunt) who called her and told her.  So they basically trade $40.  Via mail.  I just shake my head.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:48 PM

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Lol.  Glad to hear your old people are just as crazy as our old people.  

My father in law sends my wife $40 in a birthday card evey year.  Through the mail.  He lives 3 minutes away and we see him regularly.  Now here's the rediculous part ( that wasn't enough) If she doesn't give him at least a $40 gift card for his birthday he puffs up and pouts.  This happened once and he actually complained about it to his sister ( wife's aunt) who called her and told her.  So they basically trade $40.  Via mail.  I just shake my head.

That's nothing ... I've got a 60-year-old brother who gets mad if your b-day present to him is not on time or early when mailed for his big day. One year, I was about a week late and in retaliation, he sent me a XS golf shirt and a pair of golf pants in size 48/30 (I'm a 36/34) two months AFTER my b-day with a simple note that said "See - how do you like it ?"  

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:18 PM

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:52 PM

I'm surprised to that so many here are shocked that someone would disassociate with family. It happens everyday to millions of people. Sometimes it's the fault of one side or the other and sometimes it's actually the best outcome for both parties. Sharing blood is no guarantee that you will get along nor should it be a tie that is maintained at all costs. To me it's something that I personally will/would work much harder to keep intact compared to other relationships, but there is always a line that can't be crossed and there are actions that you can't come back from.

I'm not surprised, however, to see many people come at this from the bias of those own personal experiences. Everyone brings that to the table. The most empathetic and critical thinking of us humans recognize our bias and hold it back by looking at all sides and all angles until we have enough factual evidence to come to a decision one way or another. As it pertains to this scenario, I can only go by what I see. So far PR hasn't done anything to make me dislike him or think poorly of him. I've heard the past speculation, but to me, it's just that, speculation and add to that it hasn't been a steady stream of ongoing incidents to the present. I'm not going to say he is definitely a great guy because I don't know him. If things change my opinion may change.  Family issues don't mean squat to me unless it comes to something really vile or violent. Short of that, his family stuff is his. I don't need to know and don't care to.

To those that are using his parents support as a junior as proof that they are upstanding or that PR is being ungrateful by cutting them off, that doesn't prove anything. We don't know any specifics. I would also submit that any parent(s) that support their child in any endeavor with implied or expressed idea that if the child makes it to the mountain top, they are owed something in return is a poor example of a human being. That support should be given out of love and seeing their child happy. Again, that very well could be the case but we don't know. Taking any side in this debate with certainty for anyone outside of it is completely disingenuous. The best you can do is pick what side you "think" is right.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:27 AM

View Post15th Club, on 15 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I feel sorry for Patrick Reed, if Tiger Woods becomes his model for interaction with the press.  The lying, the evasions, the false controlling.  Tiger Woods has had, by far, the most brilliant golf career in a generation, but also by far, the sickest and most dysfunctional relationship with golf writers.

Golf is a game that I love, and golf writers are to a great extent my representatives; my eyes and ears on the game.

George Plimpton once said, "The smaller the ball, the better the writing (in sports)."  It was such a wonderful line.  So true.  I always thought that the game (of golf) was the most interesting and that it lent itself to the best writing rather naturally.  In part because golfers were some of the more interesting competitors, often not washed up after 4.25 years in "the League."  There were no team dynamics, no players unions, no collective bargaining agreements, no draft picks and no coaches or general managers.

I always thought and expected that golfers and the golfing press would correspond on a higher level than with other sports.

Fantastic post. Tiger Woods was world class ignorant in his approach to the sports media, and it will impact the remainder of his life. He will never be a fraction as beloved and respected as he rightfully should be, if he had merely adopted an open and respectful approach to those old sportwriters, the guys who were late in their career when Tiger came around. Many of them had been on the scene since Hogan and were more than eager to lap up anything Tiger told them and hold it in awe, with positive spin. Those guys aren't looking to twist and condemn, per the laughable cynicism here and that Tiger somehow picked up, perhaps through his paranoid dad. They just want the athlete to make their life and career routine from the press room to the typewriter to the cocktail bar, a la Dan Jenkins, with a handful of direct thoughtful answers and an occasional one-on-one feature.

Once Tiger Woods somehow brainstormed to fear the media and proceed exactly opposite of what I described, famous Miami Herald sports columnist and Georgia native Edwin Pope wrote a lengthy column directed to Tiger, explaining that his media approach was unbelievably sad and misguided, and would accomplish exactly the opposite of intended. I've mentioned that column many times. Tiger was incomparably stupid to not only continue along the same lines but to even accelerate the avoidance.

Consequently, once the off course troubles began Tiger had nothing to fall back on, other than the dependable apologists here and elsewhere among simplistic angry males who likewise fear the media. Tiger became a laughingstock on virtually every forum that doesn't resemble this one. You should see those threads. The people who post in them acquired the impression of Tiger that he allowed, via avoidance of the media and overall pompous attitude. The long warm benefit of a doubt features of an accessible terrific family oriented prodigy did not exist. Nothing to help to deflect. We shouldn't know or care about Tiger's tipping tendencies but no kidding they'll become part of the persona when he gives you nothing else. Then once the troubles begin and the benefit of a doubt backdrop isn't there, naturally the tabloid types like the Guardian will pounce and Tiger is molded into anything the  imagination can create. The joke to birdie ratio is lopsided in the wrong direction. And likely never to flip. Self-inflicted buffoonery.

I rooted for Patrick Reed last Sunday, largely because I followed him at Doral years ago during that breakthrough win. But often I checked the gallery in the background last week, specifically for the lukewarm reluctant response. It was glaring. Nantz and Faldo were too timid to describe what was going on. Someone like Johnny Miller would not have been. Reed is respected as a bulldog but otherwise he gives fans little reason to care about him, or root for him other than briefly for patriotic purposes. Make no mistake, the gallery would have preferred Rory, and if a playoff had ensued it would have been avalanche rooting interest for Fowler or Spieth or countless other possibles.

Reed hasn't helped himself with media attitude. But it's like the golf world has handicapped the situation overall and doesn't care for him. I doubt many fans know or care about the cheating claims, etc. It's obvious when you follow Reed on the course that he has few friends out there. I don't see typical interaction and banter on the range or putting green. I'll be attending the Players so it will be interesting to see how it varies this time, and how Reed handles things.

Regarding family avoidance, it generally heals later so you might as well be sharp enough and mature enough to sense the big picture and do it now. I doubt Patrick Reed will figure that out. He seems more like a details guy than a wide scope guy. The world is friendlier to wide scope guys. The details guys can be remarkably stupid. Somehow they convince themselves the details matter.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:12 AM

Be interesting to see how he fits in at the Masters dinner next year. The likes of Ben Crenshaw and Tom Watson might not take to his hotdog style.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:25 AM

View PostAwsi Dooger, on 17 April 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

View Post15th Club, on 15 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I feel sorry for Patrick Reed, if Tiger Woods becomes his model for interaction with the press.  The lying, the evasions, the false controlling.  Tiger Woods has had, by far, the most brilliant golf career in a generation, but also by far, the sickest and most dysfunctional relationship with golf writers.

Golf is a game that I love, and golf writers are to a great extent my representatives; my eyes and ears on the game.

George Plimpton once said, "The smaller the ball, the better the writing (in sports)."  It was such a wonderful line.  So true.  I always thought that the game (of golf) was the most interesting and that it lent itself to the best writing rather naturally.  In part because golfers were some of the more interesting competitors, often not washed up after 4.25 years in "the League."  There were no team dynamics, no players unions, no collective bargaining agreements, no draft picks and no coaches or general managers.

I always thought and expected that golfers and the golfing press would correspond on a higher level than with other sports.

Fantastic post. Tiger Woods was world class ignorant in his approach to the sports media, and it will impact the remainder of his life. He will never be a fraction as beloved and respected as he rightfully should be, if he had merely adopted an open and respectful approach to those old sportwriters, the guys who were late in their career when Tiger came around. Many of them had been on the scene since Hogan and were more than eager to lap up anything Tiger told them and hold it in awe, with positive spin. Those guys aren't looking to twist and condemn, per the laughable cynicism here and that Tiger somehow picked up, perhaps through his paranoid dad. They just want the athlete to make their life and career routine from the press room to the typewriter to the cocktail bar, a la Dan Jenkins, with a handful of direct thoughtful answers and an occasional one-on-one feature.

Once Tiger Woods somehow brainstormed to fear the media and proceed exactly opposite of what I described, famous Miami Herald sports columnist and Georgia native Edwin Pope wrote a lengthy column directed to Tiger, explaining that his media approach was unbelievably sad and misguided, and would accomplish exactly the opposite of intended. I've mentioned that column many times. Tiger was incomparably stupid to not only continue along the same lines but to even accelerate the avoidance.

Consequently, once the off course troubles began Tiger had nothing to fall back on, other than the dependable apologists here and elsewhere among simplistic angry males who likewise fear the media. Tiger became a laughingstock on virtually every forum that doesn't resemble this one. You should see those threads. The people who post in them acquired the impression of Tiger that he allowed, via avoidance of the media and overall pompous attitude. The long warm benefit of a doubt features of an accessible terrific family oriented prodigy did not exist. Nothing to help to deflect. We shouldn't know or care about Tiger's tipping tendencies but no kidding they'll become part of the persona when he gives you nothing else. Then once the troubles begin and the benefit of a doubt backdrop isn't there, naturally the tabloid types like the Guardian will pounce and Tiger is molded into anything the  imagination can create. The joke to birdie ratio is lopsided in the wrong direction. And likely never to flip. Self-inflicted buffoonery.

I rooted for Patrick Reed last Sunday, largely because I followed him at Doral years ago during that breakthrough win. But often I checked the gallery in the background last week, specifically for the lukewarm reluctant response. It was glaring. Nantz and Faldo were too timid to describe what was going on. Someone like Johnny Miller would not have been. Reed is respected as a bulldog but otherwise he gives fans little reason to care about him, or root for him other than briefly for patriotic purposes. Make no mistake, the gallery would have preferred Rory, and if a playoff had ensued it would have been avalanche rooting interest for Fowler or Spieth or countless other possibles.

Reed hasn't helped himself with media attitude. But it's like the golf world has handicapped the situation overall and doesn't care for him. I doubt many fans know or care about the cheating claims, etc. It's obvious when you follow Reed on the course that he has few friends out there. I don't see typical interaction and banter on the range or putting green. I'll be attending the Players so it will be interesting to see how it varies this time, and how Reed handles things.

Regarding family avoidance, it generally heals later so you might as well be sharp enough and mature enough to sense the big picture and do it now. I doubt Patrick Reed will figure that out. He seems more like a details guy than a wide scope guy. The world is friendlier to wide scope guys. The details guys can be remarkably stupid. Somehow they convince themselves the details matter.
You said alot but are terribly misguided. When you label anyone on here that questions the motives and honor of the media as simplistic, angry males, you lost any credibility.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:43 AM

View PostAwsi Dooger, on 17 April 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

View Post15th Club, on 15 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I feel sorry for Patrick Reed, if Tiger Woods becomes his model for interaction with the press.  The lying, the evasions, the false controlling.  Tiger Woods has had, by far, the most brilliant golf career in a generation, but also by far, the sickest and most dysfunctional relationship with golf writers.

Golf is a game that I love, and golf writers are to a great extent my representatives; my eyes and ears on the game.

George Plimpton once said, "The smaller the ball, the better the writing (in sports)."  It was such a wonderful line.  So true.  I always thought that the game (of golf) was the most interesting and that it lent itself to the best writing rather naturally.  In part because golfers were some of the more interesting competitors, often not washed up after 4.25 years in "the League."  There were no team dynamics, no players unions, no collective bargaining agreements, no draft picks and no coaches or general managers.

I always thought and expected that golfers and the golfing press would correspond on a higher level than with other sports.

Fantastic post. Tiger Woods was world class ignorant in his approach to the sports media, and it will impact the remainder of his life. He will never be a fraction as beloved and respected as he rightfully should be, if he had merely adopted an open and respectful approach to those old sportwriters, the guys who were late in their career when Tiger came around. Many of them had been on the scene since Hogan and were more than eager to lap up anything Tiger told them and hold it in awe, with positive spin. Those guys aren't looking to twist and condemn, per the laughable cynicism here and that Tiger somehow picked up, perhaps through his paranoid dad. They just want the athlete to make their life and career routine from the press room to the typewriter to the cocktail bar, a la Dan Jenkins, with a handful of direct thoughtful answers and an occasional one-on-one feature.

Once Tiger Woods somehow brainstormed to fear the media and proceed exactly opposite of what I described, famous Miami Herald sports columnist and Georgia native Edwin Pope wrote a lengthy column directed to Tiger, explaining that his media approach was unbelievably sad and misguided, and would accomplish exactly the opposite of intended. I've mentioned that column many times. Tiger was incomparably stupid to not only continue along the same lines but to even accelerate the avoidance.

Consequently, once the off course troubles began Tiger had nothing to fall back on, other than the dependable apologists here and elsewhere among simplistic angry males who likewise fear the media. Tiger became a laughingstock on virtually every forum that doesn't resemble this one. You should see those threads. The people who post in them acquired the impression of Tiger that he allowed, via avoidance of the media and overall pompous attitude. The long warm benefit of a doubt features of an accessible terrific family oriented prodigy did not exist. Nothing to help to deflect. We shouldn't know or care about Tiger's tipping tendencies but no kidding they'll become part of the persona when he gives you nothing else. Then once the troubles begin and the benefit of a doubt backdrop isn't there, naturally the tabloid types like the Guardian will pounce and Tiger is molded into anything the  imagination can create. The joke to birdie ratio is lopsided in the wrong direction. And likely never to flip. Self-inflicted buffoonery.

I rooted for Patrick Reed last Sunday, largely because I followed him at Doral years ago during that breakthrough win. But often I checked the gallery in the background last week, specifically for the lukewarm reluctant response. It was glaring. Nantz and Faldo were too timid to describe what was going on. Someone like Johnny Miller would not have been. Reed is respected as a bulldog but otherwise he gives fans little reason to care about him, or root for him other than briefly for patriotic purposes. Make no mistake, the gallery would have preferred Rory, and if a playoff had ensued it would have been avalanche rooting interest for Fowler or Spieth or countless other possibles.

Reed hasn't helped himself with media attitude. But it's like the golf world has handicapped the situation overall and doesn't care for him. I doubt many fans know or care about the cheating claims, etc. It's obvious when you follow Reed on the course that he has few friends out there. I don't see typical interaction and banter on the range or putting green. I'll be attending the Players so it will be interesting to see how it varies this time, and how Reed handles things.

Regarding family avoidance, it generally heals later so you might as well be sharp enough and mature enough to sense the big picture and do it now. I doubt Patrick Reed will figure that out. He seems more like a details guy than a wide scope guy. The world is friendlier to wide scope guys. The details guys can be remarkably stupid. Somehow they convince themselves the details matter.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:22 AM

View PostAwsi Dooger, on 17 April 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

View Post15th Club, on 15 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I feel sorry for Patrick Reed, if Tiger Woods becomes his model for interaction with the press.  The lying, the evasions, the false controlling.  Tiger Woods has had, by far, the most brilliant golf career in a generation, but also by far, the sickest and most dysfunctional relationship with golf writers.

Golf is a game that I love, and golf writers are to a great extent my representatives; my eyes and ears on the game.

George Plimpton once said, "The smaller the ball, the better the writing (in sports)."  It was such a wonderful line.  So true.  I always thought that the game (of golf) was the most interesting and that it lent itself to the best writing rather naturally.  In part because golfers were some of the more interesting competitors, often not washed up after 4.25 years in "the League."  There were no team dynamics, no players unions, no collective bargaining agreements, no draft picks and no coaches or general managers.

I always thought and expected that golfers and the golfing press would correspond on a higher level than with other sports.

Fantastic post. Tiger Woods was world class ignorant in his approach to the sports media, and it will impact the remainder of his life. He will never be a fraction as beloved and respected as he rightfully should be, if he had merely adopted an open and respectful approach to those old sportwriters, the guys who were late in their career when Tiger came around. Many of them had been on the scene since Hogan and were more than eager to lap up anything Tiger told them and hold it in awe, with positive spin. Those guys aren't looking to twist and condemn, per the laughable cynicism here and that Tiger somehow picked up, perhaps through his paranoid dad. They just want the athlete to make their life and career routine from the press room to the typewriter to the cocktail bar, a la Dan Jenkins, with a handful of direct thoughtful answers and an occasional one-on-one feature.

Once Tiger Woods somehow brainstormed to fear the media and proceed exactly opposite of what I described, famous Miami Herald sports columnist and Georgia native Edwin Pope wrote a lengthy column directed to Tiger, explaining that his media approach was unbelievably sad and misguided, and would accomplish exactly the opposite of intended. I've mentioned that column many times. Tiger was incomparably stupid to not only continue along the same lines but to even accelerate the avoidance.

Consequently, once the off course troubles began Tiger had nothing to fall back on, other than the dependable apologists here and elsewhere among simplistic angry males who likewise fear the media. Tiger became a laughingstock on virtually every forum that doesn't resemble this one. You should see those threads. The people who post in them acquired the impression of Tiger that he allowed, via avoidance of the media and overall pompous attitude. The long warm benefit of a doubt features of an accessible terrific family oriented prodigy did not exist. Nothing to help to deflect. We shouldn't know or care about Tiger's tipping tendencies but no kidding they'll become part of the persona when he gives you nothing else. Then once the troubles begin and the benefit of a doubt backdrop isn't there, naturally the tabloid types like the Guardian will pounce and Tiger is molded into anything the  imagination can create. The joke to birdie ratio is lopsided in the wrong direction. And likely never to flip. Self-inflicted buffoonery.

I rooted for Patrick Reed last Sunday, largely because I followed him at Doral years ago during that breakthrough win. But often I checked the gallery in the background last week, specifically for the lukewarm reluctant response. It was glaring. Nantz and Faldo were too timid to describe what was going on. Someone like Johnny Miller would not have been. Reed is respected as a bulldog but otherwise he gives fans little reason to care about him, or root for him other than briefly for patriotic purposes. Make no mistake, the gallery would have preferred Rory, and if a playoff had ensued it would have been avalanche rooting interest for Fowler or Spieth or countless other possibles.

Reed hasn't helped himself with media attitude. But it's like the golf world has handicapped the situation overall and doesn't care for him. I doubt many fans know or care about the cheating claims, etc. It's obvious when you follow Reed on the course that he has few friends out there. I don't see typical interaction and banter on the range or putting green. I'll be attending the Players so it will be interesting to see how it varies this time, and how Reed handles things.

Regarding family avoidance, it generally heals later so you might as well be sharp enough and mature enough to sense the big picture and do it now. I doubt Patrick Reed will figure that out. He seems more like a details guy than a wide scope guy. The world is friendlier to wide scope guys. The details guys can be remarkably stupid. Somehow they convince themselves the details matter.


As a self proclaimed artist who uses a media that isn’t usually thought of I can tell you that the large picture isn’t ever in focus or fulll view without the details.   It’s the details that you can’t readily pick out that make the whole picture come together.  

And as for “ we angry males”.  Pretty obtuse comment.  I’ll admit I can be closed off in a certain vain of thought sometimes.  But when approached with a thoughtful and fact filled rebuttal I can be quite quick to see both sides.  Your view is just as short sided as this Side can be.  No difference at all.  

Journalists by nature aren’t any stars friend.  No way to make that true. They report any and all info they can get.  If you wish to not share some info they are the enemy.  Period.  Your thinking is akin to a homeowner deciding to funnel the leaking drain across the kitchen floor , out the living room and into the bathe tub .  Instead of just calling a plumber and stopping the leak.  Tiger for the most part controlled the flow of info. Turning it on or off.  If media were liable for making things up or reporting hearsay then his stance would look much better.  It’s the lies and speculation that are reported that muddy that view.  But when you are tiger who cares ?  You’re rich. You have to wall yourself off unless you wish to be Arnold Palmer.  And god bless him. But it takes a really outgoing person to want to be that.  Tiger is not outgoing.  He chose the correct media path.  Small morsels when he had to.  Otherwise nothing.  We as the public are not owed a weekly presser on tigers lunch habits.  Nor are we owed info on Reeds family life.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:41 AM

View Postbladehunter, on 17 April 2018 - 07:22 AM, said:

View PostAwsi Dooger, on 17 April 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

View Post15th Club, on 15 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I feel sorry for Patrick Reed, if Tiger Woods becomes his model for interaction with the press.  The lying, the evasions, the false controlling.  Tiger Woods has had, by far, the most brilliant golf career in a generation, but also by far, the sickest and most dysfunctional relationship with golf writers.

Golf is a game that I love, and golf writers are to a great extent my representatives; my eyes and ears on the game.

George Plimpton once said, "The smaller the ball, the better the writing (in sports)."  It was such a wonderful line.  So true.  I always thought that the game (of golf) was the most interesting and that it lent itself to the best writing rather naturally.  In part because golfers were some of the more interesting competitors, often not washed up after 4.25 years in "the League."  There were no team dynamics, no players unions, no collective bargaining agreements, no draft picks and no coaches or general managers.

I always thought and expected that golfers and the golfing press would correspond on a higher level than with other sports.

Fantastic post. Tiger Woods was world class ignorant in his approach to the sports media, and it will impact the remainder of his life. He will never be a fraction as beloved and respected as he rightfully should be, if he had merely adopted an open and respectful approach to those old sportwriters, the guys who were late in their career when Tiger came around. Many of them had been on the scene since Hogan and were more than eager to lap up anything Tiger told them and hold it in awe, with positive spin. Those guys aren't looking to twist and condemn, per the laughable cynicism here and that Tiger somehow picked up, perhaps through his paranoid dad. They just want the athlete to make their life and career routine from the press room to the typewriter to the cocktail bar, a la Dan Jenkins, with a handful of direct thoughtful answers and an occasional one-on-one feature.

Once Tiger Woods somehow brainstormed to fear the media and proceed exactly opposite of what I described, famous Miami Herald sports columnist and Georgia native Edwin Pope wrote a lengthy column directed to Tiger, explaining that his media approach was unbelievably sad and misguided, and would accomplish exactly the opposite of intended. I've mentioned that column many times. Tiger was incomparably stupid to not only continue along the same lines but to even accelerate the avoidance.

Consequently, once the off course troubles began Tiger had nothing to fall back on, other than the dependable apologists here and elsewhere among simplistic angry males who likewise fear the media. Tiger became a laughingstock on virtually every forum that doesn't resemble this one. You should see those threads. The people who post in them acquired the impression of Tiger that he allowed, via avoidance of the media and overall pompous attitude. The long warm benefit of a doubt features of an accessible terrific family oriented prodigy did not exist. Nothing to help to deflect. We shouldn't know or care about Tiger's tipping tendencies but no kidding they'll become part of the persona when he gives you nothing else. Then once the troubles begin and the benefit of a doubt backdrop isn't there, naturally the tabloid types like the Guardian will pounce and Tiger is molded into anything the  imagination can create. The joke to birdie ratio is lopsided in the wrong direction. And likely never to flip. Self-inflicted buffoonery.

I rooted for Patrick Reed last Sunday, largely because I followed him at Doral years ago during that breakthrough win. But often I checked the gallery in the background last week, specifically for the lukewarm reluctant response. It was glaring. Nantz and Faldo were too timid to describe what was going on. Someone like Johnny Miller would not have been. Reed is respected as a bulldog but otherwise he gives fans little reason to care about him, or root for him other than briefly for patriotic purposes. Make no mistake, the gallery would have preferred Rory, and if a playoff had ensued it would have been avalanche rooting interest for Fowler or Spieth or countless other possibles.

Reed hasn't helped himself with media attitude. But it's like the golf world has handicapped the situation overall and doesn't care for him. I doubt many fans know or care about the cheating claims, etc. It's obvious when you follow Reed on the course that he has few friends out there. I don't see typical interaction and banter on the range or putting green. I'll be attending the Players so it will be interesting to see how it varies this time, and how Reed handles things.

Regarding family avoidance, it generally heals later so you might as well be sharp enough and mature enough to sense the big picture and do it now. I doubt Patrick Reed will figure that out. He seems more like a details guy than a wide scope guy. The world is friendlier to wide scope guys. The details guys can be remarkably stupid. Somehow they convince themselves the details matter.


As a self proclaimed artist who uses a media that isn't usually thought of I can tell you that the large picture isn't ever in focus or fulll view without the details.   It's the details that you can't readily pick out that make the whole picture come together.  

And as for " we angry males".  Pretty obtuse comment.  I'll admit I can be closed off in a certain vain of thought sometimes.  But when approached with a thoughtful and fact filled rebuttal I can be quite quick to see both sides.  Your view is just as short sided as this Side can be.  No difference at all.  

Journalists by nature aren't any stars friend.  No way to make that true. They report any and all info they can get.  If you wish to not share some info they are the enemy.  Period.  Your thinking is akin to a homeowner deciding to funnel the leaking drain across the kitchen floor , out the living room and into the bathe tub .  Instead of just calling a plumber and stopping the leak.  Tiger for the most part controlled the flow of info. Turning it on or off.  If media were liable for making things up or reporting hearsay then his stance would look much better.  It's the lies and speculation that are reported that muddy that view.  But when you are tiger who cares ?  You're rich. You have to wall yourself off unless you wish to be Arnold Palmer.  And god bless him. But it takes a really outgoing person to want to be that.  Tiger is not outgoing.  He chose the correct media path.  Small morsels when he had to.  Otherwise nothing.  We as the public are not owed a weekly presser on tigers lunch habits.  Nor are we owed info on Reeds family life.

It should also be pointed out, Tiger opened himself up to the media in the infamous GQ article in 1997.  The opening line of the article is "In the book of Saint Earl of the Woods, let us now turn to the next chapter, verse 1997, in which the presumed messiah - halo, swoosh and all - is revealed to be, gasp! a 21 year old kid."

Tiger never forgave "journalism" and the media in general for the lambasting he received from the writer, Charles P. Pierce.  Who can blame him, really.  It was salacious, manipulative and tabloid "journalism" to its core!  

Kudos to Patrick Reed for learning from Tiger in more ways than inside the ropes!

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:52 AM

View PostSixcat, on 17 April 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 17 April 2018 - 07:22 AM, said:

View PostAwsi Dooger, on 17 April 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

View Post15th Club, on 15 April 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I feel sorry for Patrick Reed, if Tiger Woods becomes his model for interaction with the press.  The lying, the evasions, the false controlling.  Tiger Woods has had, by far, the most brilliant golf career in a generation, but also by far, the sickest and most dysfunctional relationship with golf writers.

Golf is a game that I love, and golf writers are to a great extent my representatives; my eyes and ears on the game.

George Plimpton once said, "The smaller the ball, the better the writing (in sports)."  It was such a wonderful line.  So true.  I always thought that the game (of golf) was the most interesting and that it lent itself to the best writing rather naturally.  In part because golfers were some of the more interesting competitors, often not washed up after 4.25 years in "the League."  There were no team dynamics, no players unions, no collective bargaining agreements, no draft picks and no coaches or general managers.

I always thought and expected that golfers and the golfing press would correspond on a higher level than with other sports.

Fantastic post. Tiger Woods was world class ignorant in his approach to the sports media, and it will impact the remainder of his life. He will never be a fraction as beloved and respected as he rightfully should be, if he had merely adopted an open and respectful approach to those old sportwriters, the guys who were late in their career when Tiger came around. Many of them had been on the scene since Hogan and were more than eager to lap up anything Tiger told them and hold it in awe, with positive spin. Those guys aren't looking to twist and condemn, per the laughable cynicism here and that Tiger somehow picked up, perhaps through his paranoid dad. They just want the athlete to make their life and career routine from the press room to the typewriter to the cocktail bar, a la Dan Jenkins, with a handful of direct thoughtful answers and an occasional one-on-one feature.

Once Tiger Woods somehow brainstormed to fear the media and proceed exactly opposite of what I described, famous Miami Herald sports columnist and Georgia native Edwin Pope wrote a lengthy column directed to Tiger, explaining that his media approach was unbelievably sad and misguided, and would accomplish exactly the opposite of intended. I've mentioned that column many times. Tiger was incomparably stupid to not only continue along the same lines but to even accelerate the avoidance.

Consequently, once the off course troubles began Tiger had nothing to fall back on, other than the dependable apologists here and elsewhere among simplistic angry males who likewise fear the media. Tiger became a laughingstock on virtually every forum that doesn't resemble this one. You should see those threads. The people who post in them acquired the impression of Tiger that he allowed, via avoidance of the media and overall pompous attitude. The long warm benefit of a doubt features of an accessible terrific family oriented prodigy did not exist. Nothing to help to deflect. We shouldn't know or care about Tiger's tipping tendencies but no kidding they'll become part of the persona when he gives you nothing else. Then once the troubles begin and the benefit of a doubt backdrop isn't there, naturally the tabloid types like the Guardian will pounce and Tiger is molded into anything the  imagination can create. The joke to birdie ratio is lopsided in the wrong direction. And likely never to flip. Self-inflicted buffoonery.

I rooted for Patrick Reed last Sunday, largely because I followed him at Doral years ago during that breakthrough win. But often I checked the gallery in the background last week, specifically for the lukewarm reluctant response. It was glaring. Nantz and Faldo were too timid to describe what was going on. Someone like Johnny Miller would not have been. Reed is respected as a bulldog but otherwise he gives fans little reason to care about him, or root for him other than briefly for patriotic purposes. Make no mistake, the gallery would have preferred Rory, and if a playoff had ensued it would have been avalanche rooting interest for Fowler or Spieth or countless other possibles.

Reed hasn't helped himself with media attitude. But it's like the golf world has handicapped the situation overall and doesn't care for him. I doubt many fans know or care about the cheating claims, etc. It's obvious when you follow Reed on the course that he has few friends out there. I don't see typical interaction and banter on the range or putting green. I'll be attending the Players so it will be interesting to see how it varies this time, and how Reed handles things.

Regarding family avoidance, it generally heals later so you might as well be sharp enough and mature enough to sense the big picture and do it now. I doubt Patrick Reed will figure that out. He seems more like a details guy than a wide scope guy. The world is friendlier to wide scope guys. The details guys can be remarkably stupid. Somehow they convince themselves the details matter.


As a self proclaimed artist who uses a media that isn't usually thought of I can tell you that the large picture isn't ever in focus or fulll view without the details.   It's the details that you can't readily pick out that make the whole picture come together.  

And as for " we angry males".  Pretty obtuse comment.  I'll admit I can be closed off in a certain vain of thought sometimes.  But when approached with a thoughtful and fact filled rebuttal I can be quite quick to see both sides.  Your view is just as short sided as this Side can be.  No difference at all.  

Journalists by nature aren't any stars friend.  No way to make that true. They report any and all info they can get.  If you wish to not share some info they are the enemy.  Period.  Your thinking is akin to a homeowner deciding to funnel the leaking drain across the kitchen floor , out the living room and into the bathe tub .  Instead of just calling a plumber and stopping the leak.  Tiger for the most part controlled the flow of info. Turning it on or off.  If media were liable for making things up or reporting hearsay then his stance would look much better.  It's the lies and speculation that are reported that muddy that view.  But when you are tiger who cares ?  You're rich. You have to wall yourself off unless you wish to be Arnold Palmer.  And god bless him. But it takes a really outgoing person to want to be that.  Tiger is not outgoing.  He chose the correct media path.  Small morsels when he had to.  Otherwise nothing.  We as the public are not owed a weekly presser on tigers lunch habits.  Nor are we owed info on Reeds family life.

It should also be pointed out, Tiger opened himself up to the media in the infamous GQ article in 1997.  The opening line of the article is "In the book of Saint Earl of the Woods, let us now turn to the next chapter, verse 1997, in which the presumed messiah - halo, swoosh and all - is revealed to be, gasp! a 21 year old kid."

Tiger never forgave "journalism" and the media in general for the lambasting he received from the writer, Charles P. Pierce.  Who can blame him, really.  It was salacious, manipulative and tabloid "journalism" to its core!  

Kudos to Patrick Reed for learning from Tiger in more ways than inside the ropes!

Bingo...  the media will always Darling a Palmer type and will always "cut" a Tiger or Reed type any chance they get .. you have to adjust the approach accordingly .

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