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#31 Yellow Jacket

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:31 PM

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View PostYellow Jacket, on 06 April 2018 - 12:35 AM, said:

I sold a set of 3-PW heads a few years ago on BST for like $250. They were a great set back in 2003 but modern irons look better IMO.

The main problem with them is they have too much offset. And because Adam Scott is a crazy person who likes lots of offset, he's been ruining Titleist blades ever since.

.120 in 3 iron through .085 in P wedge...718 MB has .126 in 3 iron .076 in P wedge...Actually slightly more offset in today's 718 long irons and slightly less in scoring clubs. I also had a set of 680s and 718s..virtually no difference at address..certainly not lots of offset..

https://www.titleist...orged-680-irons

Amazing how those ruined old ugly eye 2 like offset 680 blades sold out probably before the link went live on the Titlest site. 75 sets probably were offered to 75 biggest accounts who snapped them up.
The 680 has a legendary status, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't look better with less offset. The 718 is basically the same as the 716, and the 716 is an updated version of the 680. ALL OF THEM have too much offset.

Hopefully with Justin Thomas's success, he'll become Titleist's primary spokesman. His irons have zero offset, so maybe we'll see less offset in the 720.

I wouldn't count on it though.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:56 PM

just heard that they actually ended up making about 100 because some tour guys asked for them again. curious who that is besides scott.
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:02 PM

Website said there was 400 sets world wide, but none are coming to Canada from what i've been told, oh well, couldn't hit them back in the day and wouldn't be able to hit them now, need a little more bounce than what they have as they liked to dig on me.
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:06 PM

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Website said there was 400 sets world wide, but none are coming to Canada from what i've been told, oh well, couldn't hit them back in the day and wouldn't be able to hit them now, need a little more bounce than what they have as they liked to dig on me.

that's good to hear....i've never hit them but i'm a very shallow swinger.
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:19 PM

View Posttnord, on 06 April 2018 - 07:56 PM, said:

just heard that they actually ended up making about 100 because some tour guys asked for them again. curious who that is besides scott.

I wouldn't be surprised if at least 20 sets are Scott's back up irons. I know they change wedges out every 4-6 weeks. So with that thinking I'd imagine if your a top OEM staff player every 3-4months he may switch out his set. Hell why not always have fresh new grooves if the sets are free and your one of the company's top dogs why the eff' not? I know it seems excessive, but if you could get a new set 4x's a year, that would play exactly the same, and hit tons of balls daily might as well keep them always with fresh grooves.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:22 PM

looks like webb might still play them, but i can't tell who else.
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:36 PM

View Postsandy, on 06 April 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostYellow Jacket, on 06 April 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 06 April 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

View PostYellow Jacket, on 06 April 2018 - 12:35 AM, said:

I sold a set of 3-PW heads a few years ago on BST for like $250. They were a great set back in 2003 but modern irons look better IMO.

The main problem with them is they have too much offset. And because Adam Scott is a crazy person who likes lots of offset, he's been ruining Titleist blades ever since.

.120 in 3 iron through .085 in P wedge...718 MB has .126 in 3 iron .076 in P wedge...Actually slightly more offset in today's 718 long irons and slightly less in scoring clubs. I also had a set of 680s and 718s..virtually no difference at address..certainly not lots of offset..

https://www.titleist...orged-680-irons

Amazing how those ruined old ugly eye 2 like offset 680 blades sold out probably before the link went live on the Titlest site. 75 sets probably were offered to 75 biggest accounts who snapped them up.
The 680 has a legendary status, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't look better with less offset. The 718 is basically the same as the 716, and the 716 is an updated version of the 680. ALL OF THEM have too much offset.

Hopefully with Justin Thomas's success, he'll become Titleist's primary spokesman. His irons have zero offset, so maybe we'll see less offset in the 720.

I wouldn't count on it though.

No such thing as zero offset. If you know the right people you can get a constant offset of .076 set of 718MBs.

Those sound awesome, Playing the loft 1* weak makes the set have 0.106" offset in the 4 iron and down to 0.063" in the 9 iron.

I am actually hoping for 720 they keep the same offset but make the lofts a degree stronger so you can bend them a couple weak to take a bunch of the offset out like Mizuno did with their MP18 this year.
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:59 PM

View PostForTourUseOnly, on 06 April 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 06 April 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostYellow Jacket, on 06 April 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

View Postsandy, on 06 April 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

View PostYellow Jacket, on 06 April 2018 - 12:35 AM, said:

I sold a set of 3-PW heads a few years ago on BST for like $250. They were a great set back in 2003 but modern irons look better IMO.

The main problem with them is they have too much offset. And because Adam Scott is a crazy person who likes lots of offset, he's been ruining Titleist blades ever since.

.120 in 3 iron through .085 in P wedge...718 MB has .126 in 3 iron .076 in P wedge...Actually slightly more offset in today's 718 long irons and slightly less in scoring clubs. I also had a set of 680s and 718s..virtually no difference at address..certainly not lots of offset..

https://www.titleist...orged-680-irons

Amazing how those ruined old ugly eye 2 like offset 680 blades sold out probably before the link went live on the Titlest site. 75 sets probably were offered to 75 biggest accounts who snapped them up.
The 680 has a legendary status, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't look better with less offset. The 718 is basically the same as the 716, and the 716 is an updated version of the 680. ALL OF THEM have too much offset.

Hopefully with Justin Thomas's success, he'll become Titleist's primary spokesman. His irons have zero offset, so maybe we'll see less offset in the 720.

I wouldn't count on it though.

No such thing as zero offset. If you know the right people you can get a constant offset of .076 set of 718MBs.

Those sound awesome, Playing the loft 1* weak makes the set have 0.106" offset in the 4 iron and down to 0.063" in the 9 iron.

I am actually hoping for 720 they keep the same offset but make the lofts a degree stronger so you can bend them a couple weak to take a bunch of the offset out like Mizuno did with their MP18 this year.
So one degree takes of ~.05" do I have that right? I've been playing Ap2's for the past 4 years 2 weak to get some offset out of them I just never knew the real conversion

Edited by knock it close, 06 April 2018 - 09:02 PM.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:08 PM

View Postknock it close, on 06 April 2018 - 08:59 PM, said:

So one degree takes of ~.05" do I have that right? I've been playing Ap2's for the past 4 years 2 weak to get some offset out of them I just never knew the real conversion

1* = 0.4mm which is 0.015748"
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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:15 PM

I actually was able to get a set but prefer the 681s. I’ll probably throw them up on the BST once I get them. Any interest feel free to shoot me a PM

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:17 PM

View PostForTourUseOnly, on 06 April 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

View Postknock it close, on 06 April 2018 - 08:59 PM, said:

So one degree takes of ~.05" do I have that right? I've been playing Ap2's for the past 4 years 2 weak to get some offset out of them I just never knew the real conversion

1* = 0.4mm which is 0.015748"
Right I got my conversions mixed up somewhere in the conversion I meant to write .5mm. Thank you though
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 12:47 AM

I thought about these for a minute but you can get a close to new set for less than $600 so why pay $1580 for these.

Limited to 75 sets. RH only, commemorative shaft band 15th anniversary limited edition, and there is a uncharge for shafts....
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 02:09 AM

So what this means is all the blade models after the 680 have been no better? I predict 660 and 670 limited releases to follow.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:29 AM

View PostKPH808, on 07 April 2018 - 12:47 AM, said:

I thought about these for a minute but you can get a close to new set for less than $600 so why pay $1580 for these.

Limited to 75 sets. RH only, commemorative shaft band 15th anniversary limited edition, and there is a uncharge for shafts....

because i can order to spec, new grooves, and the real price is the same as any other blade currently on the market.

i'm not saying it was a rational purchase....i already have 3 sets of blades sitting around.
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 09:15 AM

View Postsandy, on 07 April 2018 - 07:44 AM, said:

The 681s or Ts were a nice iron, but the problem was it was impossible to tell until it was too late who did the chrome plating. I had 1 set of T and 2 681s. The T and one set of 681s had chrome cracking on the hosel and rusting on the faces due to thin plating..

Also the 681 grooves are not approved under the conforming list, they had some test clubs not pass and they are not deemed to be legal as a whole. Each set needs to be tested to see if they are confirming or not. Would still love to get a set if you could find a set of new T's as a wall hanger. Thats the set that made me want to play blades in the first place.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:33 AM

View Postsandy, on 07 April 2018 - 10:04 AM, said:

The 1 decent set of 681s had X100 shafts which were too stiff for me at the time, so switched to S300. What surprised me was rather than lead plugs ala Mizuno every club had varying lengths of hickory dowels in the shaft tips. Since the weight wasn't  that great the assumption was it was some vibration absorption technique titleist used in those days.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:58 AM

wish lefties were allowed in the club with all these special releases.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 11:56 AM

View Postsandy, on 07 April 2018 - 07:44 AM, said:

The 681s or Ts were a nice iron, but the problem was it was impossible to tell until it was too late who did the chrome plating. I had 1 set of T and 2 681s. The T and one set of 681s had chrome cracking on the hosel and rusting on the faces due to thin plating..

I had this happen on a set of MP37s and they replaced the whole set.

Iím pretty sensitive to too much offset but damn people really think the 718s have too much? The long irons donít appear to have much at all.
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 01:45 PM

View Postsandy, on 07 April 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

Yes it is odd. The small amount of offset in the long irons helps get the trajectory higher. Certainly the small amount has no impact on reducing slices or squaring the clubface (which was the reason for the tremendous amount of offset in the old ping eye2 irons)

I agree,

the 4/5iron due to how small the head is look to have more offset than they really do by the measurements, I play my set 1* weak 5-9 and 1/2* weak in the 4 iron and that has reduced the offset a bit and better to the eye. If only I could get the TMB to look like it has less offset
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:43 PM

View Post15th Club, on 05 April 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

View Postvanla01, on 05 April 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

Wonder who is forging them this time around?

Who was it originally?  I presumed Endo.  It wasn't Hoffman, was it?

nope 681 last at hoffman...

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:58 PM

a little bird told me about these....Im excited in a way..But others are correct... the 680 and ups offset is off putting..the 681 set i have is the perfect MB.... and of course its a near one off tour issue set , that ive worn to a nub..
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 09:39 PM

I have a set coming just because I think they are cool...would I rather have 681 t’s yes but will settle for these
Under construction....

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:17 AM

View PostTLUBulldogGolf, on 06 April 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

I'd buy a set of 681s if they made them. Saw a set in a shop once and they were beautiful.

The 718s look to have very minimal offset to my eye, far from ruined.
I had two sets of 681s that I played for over 10 years, with each set being rechromed/regrooved at least once, and some of the scoring clubs done 2x.  Constant offset (like 0.080") throughout the set.  Unfortunately, they're no longer "conforming" and need that.

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:14 AM

after playing blades for the last couple years, picking up anything else i hate the look of primarily because of the offset. so the discussion about too much offset in the 680 release piqued my interest. i played 714mb all of last year, so i looked up those offset specs. PW in the 680 has .01 more than the 714, but it also has 2deg more loft in the PW.

i'm playing MP4s now, so i went and looked up those specs....same .075 offset in a 46deg PW as the 714. we'll see if i notice it when i get them, but i think the additional offset discussion is maybe much to do about nothing.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 02:19 PM

the 681 and 681t's were released at basically the same time, just different amounts of each.

the ones you mentioned in the cherry wood box were i believe 1 of 50, and had the full list of all the tournaments tiger had won done by year, they were released just as he switched to the nike blades.

if you really go way back, all the way to 1997, titleist japan released a 1/500 set of tigers irons, with a red t and the number of the set of 500. and best of all they were done by miura....

you can see the 1/50 from fairwaygolf usa here;

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:43 PM

View Postelwhippy, on 07 April 2018 - 02:09 AM, said:

So what this means is all the blade models after the 680 have been no better? I predict 660 and 670 limited releases to follow.
You would be wrong. Titleist likely ran out of 680's lying around for Adam Scott, Webb Simpson, and a couple other staffers who still play the 680, so they had to make a new forging run. Then they make extra sets to sell to the public as a "Limited Edition 15th Anniversary Release" when really they're just trying to spread around the cost of making replacement sets for their staffers.

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:17 PM

View PostYellow Jacket, on 08 April 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

View Postelwhippy, on 07 April 2018 - 02:09 AM, said:

So what this means is all the blade models after the 680 have been no better? I predict 660 and 670 limited releases to follow.
You would be wrong. Titleist likely ran out of 680's lying around for Adam Scott, Webb Simpson, and a couple other staffers who still play the 680, so they had to make a new forging run. Then they make extra sets to sell to the public as a "Limited Edition 15th Anniversary Release" when really they're just trying to spread around the cost of making replacement sets for their staffers.

love the cynicism here, and i'm one of the suckers that bit on it.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:26 PM

Probably just trying to get rid of the old heads.  Back in the day they would throw them away or destroy them.  Now like TM they jack up the prices and sell them off.  Smart move.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:33 PM

View Post15th Club, on 05 April 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

I am playing with 680's right now.  By far my favorite design from Titleist, ever.  The 5-PW are incomparable.  I never put the 3 or 4 in my bag... ;)

The 680s are nice but the 681s were better IMHO. I played the 680s and just recently sold them on ebay and moved to the 716s. Blunter leading edge makes them better to play in the Pacific Northwest, less digging.

View PostYellow Jacket, on 06 April 2018 - 12:35 AM, said:

I sold a set of 3-PW heads a few years ago on BST for like $250. They were a great set back in 2003 but modern irons look better IMO.

The main problem with them is they have too much offset. And because Adam Scott is a crazy person who likes lots of offset, he's been ruining Titleist blades ever since.

The offset wasn't too bad, but it was more than the 681s. I sold my set of 3-P for $219 just recently. Surprised I got that much for them. Lots of wear on 7-P. Would have bought them again in "new" condition on ebay if I didn't find a set of 716s with Steelfiber shafts which are awesome to play.

View PostTLUBulldogGolf, on 06 April 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

I'd buy a set of 681s if they made them. Saw a set in a shop once and they were beautiful.

The 718s look to have very minimal offset to my eye, far from ruined.

681s were awesome, played 2 sets of them before switching to the 680s since the 681s weren't groove-rule compliant. But I really do like the 716s more than both the 681s and 680s. Very similar headshape but with a much better leading edge.
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Posted 08 April 2018 - 07:39 PM

The set that turned me into a blade man!  Wish I had a spare $1G to drop on these!!


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