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#61 larciel

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 12:09 PM

View PostTM Golf Ball ENGR, on 11 June 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:


Hey guys,

Thanks for giving the Project (a) a try and hopefully this helps:

Project (a) 2014-2015 (white only, sidestamp: Project (a), (a) in red): 85 compression ball (60comp core) designed for high spin for am’s into and around the green, also had higher iron/driver spin.

Project (a) 2016-2017 (white and yellow, sidestamp: Project (a), (a) in black): 70 compression ball (40comp core) designed to maintain greenside spin but with softer feel and slightly less iron/driver spin.

Project (a) 2018-2019 (white and yellow, sidestamp: <(a)> in red): 70 compression ball (35comp core), new material between core/cover, new cover and dimple pattern. Designed to maintain greenside spin and soft feel but significantly reduce driver/iron spin as well as improved aerodynamics for more distance and better performance in windy conditions.

Project (a) 2020? would love to hear your feedback on the 2018 version so we can incorporate into our development cycles.

Thanks


As a project (a) fan who used every version, this is very welcome to see Tmag listening to users directly.

To me, 2016 version is very good but feels bit EMPTY when hit.  2018ver, so far has been better in terms of that. but I only played 2 rounds with it. Will report back.

For 2020 version, I don't agree that you need to keep the launch lower. This is geared for amateurs and they need the launch.


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:07 PM

I have been wanting to try the project a. I had been a Prov1 user for a long time until I bought the TM LETHAL......to me the best ball I ever played.  I only have a few lethals left and am looking for its eventual replacement. I purchased a sleeve of TP5's to give them a shot and will try them tonight, but how does the project a compare to the lethal? can you compare the two?

Hopefully I can find a replacement for the lethal without spending $45/dozen.  Bring back the lethal!

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:40 PM

View Posttsecor, on 12 June 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

I have been wanting to try the project a. I had been a Prov1 user for a long time until I bought the TM LETHAL......to me the best ball I ever played.  I only have a few lethals left and am looking for its eventual replacement. I purchased a sleeve of TP5's to give them a shot and will try them tonight, but how does the project a compare to the lethal? can you compare the two?

Hopefully I can find a replacement for the lethal without spending $45/dozen.  Bring back the lethal!

Try 2016 Tour Preferred . It's very similar to Lethal/Penta TP5


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Is Project A yellow ball still cast urethane? I heard it's hard to die on cast urethane, any special steps or characteristic of the process you can share for us?

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:54 PM

I will try those. I am shocked they are still $27/dozen but that's a good price for a ball you love, so fingers crossed!

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:00 PM

I know my distances very well on the courses I play and this ball is as long or longer than any other ball I have hit.  I have hit many drives this year with the 2018 version that would go in my top 10% of drives all time.  Not saying every drive but when I catch it clean its every bit as long as other balls I have played over the years and my really good ones are way out there for my swing.   My driver SS is 105 to 110.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:38 AM

Project a's $22.39 Dick's online today

https://www.dicksspo...5tymmprjct16gbl

Edited by Tanner25, 17 June 2018 - 11:40 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:44 AM

View PostTanner25, on 17 June 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

Project a's $22.39 Dick's online today

https://www.dicksspo...5tymmprjct16gbl

Just an FYI, I don't believe these are the 2018 version.  The 2018 still seem to be full price.

Edited by Frohlich, 17 June 2018 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 09:10 PM

2018 version $19/dozen when you buy 7

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry17493510

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 09:11 PM

I just finished 2 rounds with 2018 version and I'm very impressed. The empty feeling of 2016 is no longer there. Spins nicely and flies on driver shots. To me this ball is perfect.

Only if I can trade in my 12dozen 2016 version to current one.. ;)

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 06:32 AM

View Postlarciel, on 17 June 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

I just finished 2 rounds with 2018 version and I'm very impressed. The empty feeling of 2016 is no longer there. Spins nicely and flies on driver shots. To me this ball is perfect.

Only if I can trade in my 12dozen 2016 version to current one.. ;)

Although, the 2016 ball is not bad or seemed perfect at the time, there's always a new generation or other ball out there. I never understood why so many WRX'ers buy so many balls at one time. I guess like the current Z star deal, it's tempting to stock up. But, you are hitting upon the point I am trying to make, why get stuck with balls you're not going to use or not happily use, knowing there's a better version out there.


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Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:12 PM

Has the yellow color improved from the 16 a to the 18 a?

Edit: The white ones are now $27.99 online with free shipping to DSG.

Edited by Tanner25, 18 June 2018 - 07:27 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:21 PM

lets get a few guys to chip in and buy some and we all split the costs

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 10:44 AM

Played a round with the Project A and I'm impressed as well. It's now a good replacement for my Lethal stock that's nearly gone.

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 10:58 AM

View PostTanner25, on 18 June 2018 - 07:12 PM, said:

Has the yellow color improved from the 16 a to the 18 a?

Edit: The white ones are now $27.99 online with free shipping to DSG.
older model but the 15 pack is 34.99. 2.30/per ball compared to 3.75 per ball for a TP5. cant imagine the difference being that great per ball

Edited by tsecor, 19 June 2018 - 11:01 AM.


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Posted 19 June 2018 - 11:09 AM

Project (a) is my go-to, cold weather ball. Now that the 2018 is even lower compression, I'm pumped. Don't really game these too much in the summer months, but I love the color of the yellow.


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Posted 19 June 2018 - 03:38 PM

View PostjacobEDGE, on 19 June 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

Project (a) is my go-to, cold weather ball. Now that the 2018 is even lower compression, I'm pumped. Don't really game these too much in the summer months, but I love the color of the yellow.

It sounds a little silly but I love their color of "yellow" on the new ball also.

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 07:11 PM

View Postctay61983, on 19 June 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostjacobEDGE, on 19 June 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

Project (a) is my go-to, cold weather ball. Now that the 2018 is even lower compression, I'm pumped. Don't really game these too much in the summer months, but I love the color of the yellow.

It sounds a little silly but I love their color of "yellow" on the new ball also.

Is it a nice yellow or does it have a hint of green like the prior gen (a)?

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:37 AM

View PostTanner25, on 19 June 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View Postctay61983, on 19 June 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostjacobEDGE, on 19 June 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

Project (a) is my go-to, cold weather ball. Now that the 2018 is even lower compression, I'm pumped. Don't really game these too much in the summer months, but I love the color of the yellow.

It sounds a little silly but I love their color of "yellow" on the new ball also.

Is it a nice yellow or does it have a hint of green like the prior gen (a)?

It does have a hint of green... looks good though.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:17 AM

That hint of green provides the phosphorescence... The ball pops in the late evening.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:41 PM

Damn. I just played a round with p.a and more I play 2018version,  I'm loving it more and more. This seriously could be my gamer.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 07:59 PM

View Postaadadams, on 20 June 2018 - 11:17 AM, said:

That hint of green provides the phosphorescence... The ball pops in the late evening.

Academy Sports had both the yellow a 16 for 25 and the yellow 18 for 35. Honestly, the color on the 18 a looks exactly the same as the prior gen. I just don't like the hint of green. I much prefer the yellow you'd find on any Callaway or Titleist Tour Soft yellow ball.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:02 PM

View PostTanner25, on 12 June 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

View PostTM Golf Ball ENGR, on 11 June 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

View Poststorm319, on 11 June 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

View Postthird-times-a-charm, on 11 June 2018 - 08:33 PM, said:

View Postthird&#045;times&#045;a&#045;charm, on 11 June 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

My sleeve I'm looking at right now says 2015 on the back, and it is all black 'project a'

My sleeve with 2018 on the back has a red 'project a' on the side of th balls

2015:



I have the same sleeve that TaylorMade sent as part of the 2nd gen promo in mid 2016. You will notice that one of the sides of the sleeve mentions a 40 compression number which was not included on the 2014 release packaging. Also the date likely points to the most current copywrite renewal year that TaylorMade had at the time that the packaging was printed.

Hey guys,

Thanks for giving the Project (a) a try and hopefully this helps:

Project (a) 2014-2015 (white only, sidestamp: Project (a), (a) in red): 85 compression ball (60comp core) designed for high spin for am’s into and around the green, also had higher iron/driver spin.

Project (a) 2016-2017 (white and yellow, sidestamp: Project (a), (a) in black): 70 compression ball (40comp core) designed to maintain greenside spin but with softer feel and slightly less iron/driver spin.

Project (a) 2018-2019 (white and yellow, sidestamp: <(a)> in red): 70 compression ball (35comp core), new material between core/cover, new cover and dimple pattern. Designed to maintain greenside spin and soft feel but significantly reduce driver/iron spin as well as improved aerodynamics for more distance and better performance in windy conditions.

Project (a) 2020? would love to hear your feedback on the 2018 version so we can incorporate into our development cycles.

Thanks


Welcome, TM Golf Ball ENGR. It's nice to have an expert on the site. Would you agree the 16 A in yellow has a greenish tint to it? How does the 18 A in yellow differ? Tanner

Yes there is a greenish tint to the yellow. This tint tested out best in our player panels, especially in low light conditions. Color preference is highly subjective but we do our best to gather the preferences of current Project (a) users in our surveys and test panels.

Thanks!

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:14 PM

View Postlarciel, on 12 June 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

View Posttsecor, on 12 June 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

I have been wanting to try the project a. I had been a Prov1 user for a long time until I bought the TM LETHAL......to me the best ball I ever played.  I only have a few lethals left and am looking for its eventual replacement. I purchased a sleeve of TP5's to give them a shot and will try them tonight, but how does the project a compare to the lethal? can you compare the two?

Hopefully I can find a replacement for the lethal without spending $45/dozen.  Bring back the lethal!

Try 2016 Tour Preferred . It's very similar to Lethal/Penta TP5


@tmag

Is Project A yellow ball still cast urethane? I heard it's hard to die on cast urethane, any special steps or characteristic of the process you can share for us?

Yes Project (a) yellow is still cast urethane, the same material and dimple pattern used on TP5 and TP5x. You heard correctly that it is difficult to make a colored cast urethane product. The cover is not actually died but actually has both pigmented and clear coatings. Changing the pigment in the coatings requires an entirely new paint system, which can create many challenges and requires extensive testing and analysis to ensure the pigmented coating achieves the same performance as the original.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:04 AM

Thx.TM Golf Ball ENGR. I don't usually play during low light. But, it is nice to know the reason behind it.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:14 AM

wow  same process as the TP5?? that's amazing.  I am going to give these a try because I really miss playing the LETHAL


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 11:22 AM

View PostTanner25, on 18 June 2018 - 06:32 AM, said:

I never understood why so many WRX'ers buy so many balls at one time.

I'll tell you why:)  I bought a dozen of the Z-Star X's at $10 a dozen and I'm down to my last box.

Sure, they are way hard compared to today's balls, but they are long, straight and check on the green.  Still my favorite Srixon generation because the covers were almost indestructible.  Three rounds, no worries and they still look great.  I play 'em until I loose 'em.  The new "Spin Skin" Srixons are just pitiful in durability.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:59 AM

View PostQuigleyDU, on 24 April 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

i found the '17 version to be very short. it was a good 20 yard behind anything else. I do have a higher swing speed those these are probably just too soft.

20 yards! I'd suggest it was a bad day on the golf course.
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:11 AM

Next for me is putting up the project (a) against the Titleist AVX
Driver = Titleist 910 D2
5 Wood = Taylormade Burner

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Ball = Titleist AVX

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:33 AM

I played with the TP5 again last night and the more I play the TP5, the more I like it.  I used a chromesoft for 5 holes and then a TP5 for 4 holes. The chromesoft is a long ball but on 100yard pitch shots, it doesn't hold as well as I would like. Granted, I am sure I am not spinning it enough, but the TP5 just seems to stick a little better, even on long iron shots into the green.   I hit a 6 iron into a 185 yard hole and thought it would roll off. the ball check up nicely and only rolled out 4 feet. For me, that is not a lot.

if the Project a is anything close to a TP5, I think I would make that my go to ball.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:51 AM

View Posttsecor, on 22 June 2018 - 06:33 AM, said:

I played with the TP5 again last night and the more I play the TP5, the more I like it.  I used a chromesoft for 5 holes and then a TP5 for 4 holes. The chromesoft is a long ball but on 100yard pitch shots, it doesn't hold as well as I would like. Granted, I am sure I am not spinning it enough, but the TP5 just seems to stick a little better, even on long iron shots into the green.   I hit a 6 iron into a 185 yard hole and thought it would roll off. the ball check up nicely and only rolled out 4 feet. For me, that is not a lot.

if the Project a is anything close to a TP5, I think I would make that my go to ball.

The a is spinny. You can get prior gen a for 25, much cheaper than the TP5.

Edited by Tanner25, 22 June 2018 - 06:51 AM.


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