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Toughest hole you have ever played?


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#31 stringbean502001

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:20 PM

 xgolfx, on 31 March 2018 - 12:22 PM, said:

If toughest also means fairest. Not penal to absurd I would choose any par 3 at Pine Valley

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Agree, and specifically for me #5. Stand on tee pretty much knowing my best case is hitting a true uphill 225 yd shot, then 3 putting a very, very tough green. Worst case is the caddie unfortunately finding a wayward shot, right or left doesn't matter...and about 5 shots later getting to the green...to 3 putt


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:25 PM

My wife, a teacher at the time, took a starters job at course for the summer so I got to play there anytime she was working. The 2nd hole was not a dog leg, but rather a true right angle. I probably played that course 40 times that summer and never once got into position off the tee to attack the green. I either drove it through the fairway into trouble or got in trouble on the right trying to fade the ball around the tree line. I'm just glad it was free golf that whole summer!

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:37 PM

 fawley, on 01 April 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

15 at Bethpage Black is brutal. A very long par 4 with the second half playing severely uphill into a two tiered green. Thereís nothing tricked up about it (other than perhaps the very long rough and fescue) - what you see is what you get. Itís all right there in front of you, but a par there always feels like a birdie to me.
Was going to say the same. It always seems to play into the wind every time I play there as well. The hole is a savage if you miss the fairway.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:47 PM

 Caddykev, on 10 April 2018 - 04:37 PM, said:

 fawley, on 01 April 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

15 at Bethpage Black is brutal. A very long par 4 with the second half playing severely uphill into a two tiered green. There's nothing tricked up about it (other than perhaps the very long rough and fescue) - what you see is what you get. It's all right there in front of you, but a par there always feels like a birdie to me.
Was going to say the same. It always seems to play into the wind every time I play there as well. The hole is a savage if you miss the fairway.

Agree #15 is a beast. I would say #5 is up there as well. If you don't keep it down the right side you pretty much have no shot into that green, which looks tiny on the approach.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 06:39 PM

 PThomas, on 10 April 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

 Caddykev, on 10 April 2018 - 04:37 PM, said:

 fawley, on 01 April 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

15 at Bethpage Black is brutal. A very long par 4 with the second half playing severely uphill into a two tiered green. There's nothing tricked up about it (other than perhaps the very long rough and fescue) - what you see is what you get. It's all right there in front of you, but a par there always feels like a birdie to me.
Was going to say the same. It always seems to play into the wind every time I play there as well. The hole is a savage if you miss the fairway.

Agree #15 is a beast. I would say #5 is up there as well. If you don't keep it down the right side you pretty much have no shot into that green, which looks tiny on the approach.
5 is a tough on too. That course is full of them. I will say that Red #1 never gets enough credit for being a really tough starting hole from the tips.  Another hole that plays into the wind and can be a long iron up that steep hill to a tiny green with death a little bit left.  I remember playing Hofstras and St. John's(maybe-been a long time) toournaments on the red, and walking away with a 4 on one was s solid start.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 12:04 PM

 PThomas, on 10 April 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

 Caddykev, on 10 April 2018 - 04:37 PM, said:

 fawley, on 01 April 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

15 at Bethpage Black is brutal. A very long par 4 with the second half playing severely uphill into a two tiered green. There's nothing tricked up about it (other than perhaps the very long rough and fescue) - what you see is what you get. It's all right there in front of you, but a par there always feels like a birdie to me.
Was going to say the same. It always seems to play into the wind every time I play there as well. The hole is a savage if you miss the fairway.

Agree #15 is a beast. I would say #5 is up there as well. If you don't keep it down the right side you pretty much have no shot into that green, which looks tiny on the approach.

Yeah, I didn't do so well on that hole either.
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Posted 11 April 2018 - 12:30 PM

I'll echo a few others, the 18th at Ko'olau on Oahu.  Toughest hole in the highest slope-rated course.

And for those who've played it, the single toughest shot might be the second shot on the par-3 second hole at Royal Dornoch.  You've missed the green to one side or another, you're on a tight downhill lie, the green is up a steep bank to a level above your head, and firm, and it drops off on the other side of the green to an identical bad spot.

edit, I initially wrote the 19th at Ko'olau, and that's just wrong.  The only thing difficult about any 19th hole is actually leaving.

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 05:03 PM

 stringbean502001, on 10 April 2018 - 03:20 PM, said:

 xgolfx, on 31 March 2018 - 12:22 PM, said:

If toughest also means fairest. Not penal to absurd I would choose any par 3 at Pine Valley

CHARLEY PENNA
Agree, and specifically for me #5. Stand on tee pretty much knowing my best case is hitting a true uphill 225 yd shot, then 3 putting a very, very tough green. Worst case is the caddie unfortunately finding a wayward shot, right or left doesn't matter...and about 5 shots later getting to the green...to 3 putt

I played  Pine Valley in persimmon era. Best score on the 5thhole was 4 for me. Never hit the green. I was able to par the devils a## hole twice.

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 05:11 PM

Number 4 at Pine Valley from the Crump tees. The hole requires a 290+ yard cut shot to a fairway that looks about 10 yards wide from the tee box.

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 05:19 PM

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 06:16 PM

No. 5 at Pinehurst No. 2 used to be the answer when it was a par-4. From the back tees, it would crush your spirit after what was a manageable start to the round. But it's a par-5 now, which makes more sense given the severity of the green.

As an honorable mention, I'll add No. 6 at Council Fire Golf Club in Chattanooga. It's a par-5 that's about 585 yards. I'm certain that there are harder holes out there, but none that ever kicked my a** so badly on a regular basis. I probably played there 10 times over the course of a couple of years and I'm not sure I ever made better than a 7, and if I did it was a 6. I know I never made a par or a birdie on that hole, and I also made a smooth 9 there in US Mid Am qualifying one year. That hole OWNED me.
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Posted 13 April 2018 - 01:33 PM

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:06 PM

 schley, on 31 March 2018 - 01:38 AM, said:

Had to be this uphill blind par four with nothing but all kinds of trees and barranca with no sight lines at a par four at Mount Woodson east of San Diego, into a huge wind from the back tees.  First time I have ever played it and lost four balls and went back to the tee three times.  Left tee couldn’t find it, took a mental picture, tried to adjust angle of attack and repeat.

Had to carry 240 uphill into the wind just to make the fairway or it was lost down a ravine somewhere.  Couldn’t see the fairway at all.  Wind was a good 25 mph or more.  I was averaging 260-270 back then off the tee.  No room for error on that hole.

I do remember that hole and many others om Mt. Woodson, you better be on your game on that crazy course.

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:13 PM

9th hole at Big Run in Lockport, IL.  Top 10 toughest holes in Chicago.  

Plays about 610, has a fairway that is about 10 yards wide, huge oak trees lining the hole.  The third shot is severely uphill to a green that is lined with bunkers, repels golf balls, and it you're above the hole...SEE YA.

You're never unhappy with a bogey, even if you have a birdie putt.


Oh...just for kicks, we played this hole once from the senior tees.  It was only 600 yards.

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 09:39 PM

 Jagpilotohio, on 31 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Number 18.  The Virtues.  Nashport, Ohio. Par 4. 466 yards. Plays 510+. . Top 100 public course in USA.

Narrow severely sloped double bend fairway.  Tee shot played out of a Shute of trees. Entire hole plays severely uphill.

Narrow green cut on a diagonal into the hill. Visually non-existent from the fairway.

If the Wind is out of the East, in your face, well.....it goes from an incredibly hard par 4 to a par 5.  Itís essentially a par 5 anyway.

Great golf course if you ever get out that way. 40 miles east of Columbus. The tee is way back In the trees at the far right of picture


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This hole is absolutely brutal.  The only shot off the tee that leaves you anything remotely decent into the green is if you can hit a 285+ draw about 5 yards right of the left fairway bunker... thereís a very small speed slot that starts at about 285-290... in the 15 or so times Iíve played Longaberger (Virtues is a lame name), I have caught that slope one time.  Had a 8 iron into the green that day.  Every other round itís been a 3i, hybrid or 5w into the green

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:12 PM

I don't know about "ever".... But the course I play pretty regularly has a three hole stretch (8,9,10) that is nuts.  8 is always playing into the wind and its long for a par 4. 9 is long and has a massive fairway bunker at the landing area. If you land in that bunker you have to carry water and more bunkers by the green. 10 is 600+yards and always plays more like 650 an has water all down the left side, OB right, a creek running across the fairway about 170 short of the green, and large green side bunkers short right and left of the green. Last time I played it the wind was howling right into my face. I hit Driver (well struck), 3 wood (also well struck), 5 iron. After all that I was still short of the green. Its a par 5 that I play to make 5 and am more than happy when I do.
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Posted 19 April 2018 - 08:25 AM

 Mfelix, on 13 April 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

#11, TPC Sawgrass, Dye's Valley

I thought the Valley was more mentally difficult than the Stadium course. It felt like all I did was try to protect my ball from water all day rather than enjoying a round of golf.
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Posted 19 April 2018 - 11:55 AM

#5 or #18 at Old Corkscrew in Naples/Ft Myers, FL.  Could throw about 5 other holes from that course into the discussion too.  Beautiful track, but absolutely brutal from tee to green, and every green has 3-4 tiers.

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:32 PM

15 at Bethpage Black is a MONSTER

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