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#61 MtlJeff

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 09:38 AM

View PostRodC, on 28 March 2018 - 08:56 AM, said:

View PostMtlJeff, on 27 March 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

View Postfalken19150, on 27 March 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

If only these distributors could do a little more, like installing grips, shafts, lie and loft .... that would be something different.
Instead of just having std stock and unprepared employees.

As a manufacturer why having a store just mak8ng money for doing nothing? I prefer having my own channel.
Even sometimes damaging your brand for not correctly knowing how to handle or recommend your product. For too long these malpractices generated money, things are changing.

Know if you have a store like club champion as example, it’s a different story. They do work

Golftown does all of those things and they had to close several stores last year and nearly went bankrupt

The golftown near me is fantastic. They do fittings, club work, etc

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#62 GOUFGO

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 09:39 AM

I ordered my 790's on March 16th; called this morning and was told "production opened on these this morning and should have them by next Wednesday".

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 09:45 AM

View PostGOUFGO, on 28 March 2018 - 09:39 AM, said:

I ordered my 790's on March 16th; called this morning and was told "production opened on these this morning and should have them by next Wednesday".

Hope they do but I've been given the run around on when mine will ship. I ordered 730 irons with a 790 4 iron 3 weeks ago. I was first told they would ship early last week, then told early this week. Now it is end of next week or early following week...

Might not be a bad thing though, giving me time to second guess playing the season with blades

Edited by Redjeep83, 28 March 2018 - 09:47 AM.


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Posted 28 March 2018 - 10:52 AM

In Taylormade's defense they have been doing very well with the M3/M4 release and everything after up until this point. If you think May is bad, a custom order Atmos 5 stiff flex is B/O until August 2019. Yes 2019 is what the system says.

Also my local shop has a good amount of the Hi-Toe's just sitting there. DSG seems to have them in stock. DRRicks, i suppose some shop near by might have some on hand and might do an inventory swap with you.

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 01:17 PM

Europe has the same problems. Bags, stock and custom clubs can easy take between 2-6 weeks. Hope it will be better soon.


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Posted 28 March 2018 - 06:34 PM

Try ordering custom through a site like 2ndswing they may have a rush on their orders since they are big time buyers

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Posted 29 March 2018 - 08:15 AM

I think the Hi Toe Wedges are out until June according to their website ?

I have one but instead of going through reshafting was going to just sell and order a new one with a different shaft. Guess im going the reshafting route.
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Posted 29 March 2018 - 09:50 AM

View PostChunk777, on 29 March 2018 - 08:15 AM, said:

I think the Hi Toe Wedges are out until June according to their website ?

I have one but instead of going through reshafting was going to just sell and order a new one with a different shaft. Guess im going the reshafting route.

Kind of in the same boat. I have a project X 5.5 in my 58 and not a 100% sure about it yet. What shaft do you have in your hi-toe?
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Posted 29 March 2018 - 09:54 AM

View PostCaseyDan, on 29 March 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

View PostChunk777, on 29 March 2018 - 08:15 AM, said:

I think the Hi Toe Wedges are out until June according to their website ?

I have one but instead of going through reshafting was going to just sell and order a new one with a different shaft. Guess im going the reshafting route.

Kind of in the same boat. I have a project X 5.5 in my 58 and not a 100% sure about it yet. What shaft do you have in your hi-toe?
Kbs tour 120 Stiff. Not even sure why I ordered it with that.. Must have been a busy day
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Posted 01 April 2018 - 09:34 AM

I customized a set of P730's on their site and it has a ship date of 08/28/2019!!!  

That can't be right I would think.

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:38 AM

View Post1s1k, on 01 April 2018 - 09:34 AM, said:

I customized a set of P730's on their site and it has a ship date of 08/28/2019!!!  

That can't be right I would think.

It's possible.  On the retail side, our ordering portal is showing that the P730 is "sold out".  That's unusual.  Usually it will have a "available" date, even if it's months out...like right now lots of metal woods and irons are showing June availability.
But P730 is just not available to even place an order, period.  

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:40 AM

Its an overnight glitch.  I had the same thing happen when I placed my UDI order.  Next day it showed up as April 4.

I also tried a p730 custom order just to see what it said - 5/7/18.  So don't worry.

Edited by falken19150, 01 April 2018 - 10:43 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:43 AM

View Postchris975d, on 01 April 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

View Post1s1k, on 01 April 2018 - 09:34 AM, said:

I customized a set of P730's on their site and it has a ship date of 08/28/2019!!!  

That can't be right I would think.

It's possible.  On the retail side, our ordering portal is showing that the P730 is "sold out".  That's unusual.  Usually it will have a "available" date, even if it's months out...like right now lots of metal woods and irons are showing June availability.
But P730 is just not available to even place an order, period.  

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Looks like they don't have 3 irons in stock so that's prob what's happening

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 11:48 AM

Funny that my son ordered 730s in 6-P 1/2 in short 1 degree flat and they showed up in less than 2 weeks. His were ordered couple months ago, but they did arrive in less than 2 weeks as stated above. Shop owner was even surprised. Plus he got his with Px 6.0s!

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 11:58 AM

View Postfalken19150, on 01 April 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

Its an overnight glitch.  I had the same thing happen when I placed my UDI order.  Next day it showed up as April 4.

I also tried a p730 custom order just to see what it said - 5/7/18.  So don't worry.

Thanks for the info!


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Posted 01 April 2018 - 12:09 PM

View Postfalken19150, on 01 April 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

View Postchris975d, on 01 April 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

View Post1s1k, on 01 April 2018 - 09:34 AM, said:

I customized a set of P730's on their site and it has a ship date of 08/28/2019!!!  

That can't be right I would think.

It's possible.  On the retail side, our ordering portal is showing that the P730 is "sold out".  That's unusual.  Usually it will have a "available" date, even if it's months out...like right now lots of metal woods and irons are showing June availability.
But P730 is just not available to even place an order, period.  

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Looks like they don't have 3 irons in stock so that's prob what's happening

It's not just 3 irons.  

Looks like right now all that's available are "stock"  8 and 9 irons in X flex only, and PW in regular flex.  

Again, this is stock configuration.  Custom order builder shows everything backordered through at least May.  

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 12:11 PM

View Postboggyman, on 01 April 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Funny that my son ordered 730s in 6-P 1/2 in short 1 degree flat and they showed up in less than 2 weeks. His were ordered couple months ago, but they did arrive in less than 2 weeks as stated above. Shop owner was even surprised. Plus he got his with Px 6.0s!

I ordered 730’s on 3/7, they are suppose to ship end of this coming week so been like a month. I guess they are waiting on some heads to come in

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 12:25 PM

View PostRedjeep83, on 01 April 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

View Postboggyman, on 01 April 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Funny that my son ordered 730s in 6-P 1/2 in short 1 degree flat and they showed up in less than 2 weeks. His were ordered couple months ago, but they did arrive in less than 2 weeks as stated above. Shop owner was even surprised. Plus he got his with Px 6.0s!

I ordered 730’s on 3/7, they are suppose to ship end of this coming week so been like a month. I guess they are waiting on some heads to come in

Sweet sticks for sure. Definitely a “blade”!!

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 01:01 PM

Maybe the kids working in the oversea sweatshops are on strike.
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Posted 01 April 2018 - 03:32 PM

View PostDRRicks, on 27 March 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Was just going to put in an order for a bunch of TM equipment through their online process. The P750 4 Iron, P730 irons, and Hi Toe are all backordered until June! For those keeping track, it’s still MARCH. The only thing available immediately are the MG wedges.

How is it possible to mismanage inventory that poorly heading into a limited season sport as a manufacturer? Insane.

Not great but the shop I ordered 718 AP2s from the other day said TM UK are in a mess due to the split from Adidas...moved warehouses, all new emails etc etc. It may explain the lead time for orders??

P.s. given your sig I’m not sure I’d bother ordering lol

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 10:48 AM

Ordered my P770's custom late May of last year.  2* flat, DG S300 shafts with Winn Dry Tac grips.  Estimated delivery time was 8 days and they got here in 7.

Ordered my M3 driver over the weekend and said it was in stock, hoping I get the tracking number today or tomorrow.
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Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:18 AM

View PostDRRicks, on 27 March 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Was just going to put in an order for a bunch of TM equipment through their online process. The P750 4 Iron, P730 irons, and Hi Toe are all backordered until June! For those keeping track, it's still MARCH. The only thing available immediately are the MG wedges.

How is it possible to mismanage inventory that poorly heading into a limited season sport as a manufacturer? Insane.
I ordered a set of the 790's on December 28th...and i still don't have them...

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:19 AM

Anyone know if the P790 UDIs will be available in retail stores?  I'm planning on getting the stock shaft anyway, so as long as they have it in 6.5 flex I'd rather just buy off the rack and avoid the wait, but haven't been able to find them in a store yet.
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Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:59 AM

I ordered my 790 UDI Custom on Thursday and its scheduled to deliver today. I can not complain too much.

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:09 PM

View Postthe_slice_king, on 02 April 2018 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 27 March 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Was just going to put in an order for a bunch of TM equipment through their online process. The P750 4 Iron, P730 irons, and Hi Toe are all backordered until June! For those keeping track, it's still MARCH. The only thing available immediately are the MG wedges.

How is it possible to mismanage inventory that poorly heading into a limited season sport as a manufacturer? Insane.
I ordered a set of the 790's on December 28th...and i still don't have them...

who did you order through?


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 09:37 AM

View PostRedjeep83, on 02 April 2018 - 01:09 PM, said:

View Postthe_slice_king, on 02 April 2018 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 27 March 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Was just going to put in an order for a bunch of TM equipment through their online process. The P750 4 Iron, P730 irons, and Hi Toe are all backordered until June! For those keeping track, it's still MARCH. The only thing available immediately are the MG wedges.

How is it possible to mismanage inventory that poorly heading into a limited season sport as a manufacturer? Insane.
I ordered a set of the 790's on December 28th...and i still don't have them...

who did you order through?
I got fitted at Loft Golf Performance, which is the company at PGA National. They put the order through for me.

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:30 AM

Ordered my udi on March 30. Still says it is being processed.

Said before it was a shipping date of April 7. So we will see
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Posted 03 April 2018 - 05:39 PM

The custom build tab on TM website will give you estimated dates due to backorder items ( heads / shafts / grips )
Tmagdirect ( dealer order site ) will show the same info for backorder on same items.
But the TM fitters that do all the on site demo days have the most up to date info on the iPads.
There is a report generated internally that shows when those backordered items will be coming in.
This report would be used specifically for all "custom" build order.

In regards to P730 - 9 irons heads are out till 5/7/18
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Posted 03 April 2018 - 06:10 PM

I ordered on the web site today.

790 4-5
770 6-7
750 8-9-pw

Everything estimated to ship within 10 days. Except the 750's. 6-11.

So I called. Was told the only issue was the 8 iron in 750. Changed my order to make 770 8 iron. Placed and still said the 6-11 on the 750's



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Posted 03 April 2018 - 06:23 PM

View Postbnp144, on 02 April 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

I ordered my 790 UDI Custom on Thursday and its scheduled to deliver today. I can not complain too much.

I must’ve gotten stuck in a rush. I ordered Saturday and it’s not even supposed to ship until the 13th.


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