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#1 kekoa

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 54 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 05:32 PM

Great question, I've wondered same and am Same position(opposite coast though- Pinehurst is 4.5 hours. Why do you say IMG better test?

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 05:33 PM

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 18 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

Haven’t done both.  

If I were a West Coast guy I would stay on the West Coast.  No reason spending that money coming to the east coast.  Future Masters in Alabama may be better than both.  Haven’t been, but have heard great things.  Put in an application to go this summer.

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 05:38 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 March 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 18 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

Haven’t done both.  

If I were a West Coast guy I would stay on the West Coast.  No reason spending that money coming to the east coast.  Future Masters in Alabama may be better than both.  Haven’t been, but have heard great things.  Put in an application to go this summer.

Placed an application a few weeks ago and heard back today he was accepted.  Should be fun.  I'll make sure to post back as to my thoughts.  I can't justify Pinehurst this year.  I'd rather go to Hawaii. :pimp:
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Posted 19 March 2018 - 05:39 PM

View Posthangontight, on 19 March 2018 - 05:32 PM, said:

Great question, I've wondered same and am Same position(opposite coast though- Pinehurst is 4.5 hours. Why do you say IMG better test?  

I say it's a better test since the player has to play 18 holes each day over 3 days.  Compared to 9 holes each day for US KIDS.

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 06:31 PM

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

View Posthangontight, on 19 March 2018 - 05:32 PM, said:

Great question, I've wondered same and am Same position(opposite coast though- Pinehurst is 4.5 hours. Why do you say IMG better test?  

I say it's a better test since the player has to play 18 holes each day over 3 days.  Compared to 9 holes each day for US KIDS.

I see.  Def agree.

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 06:34 PM

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 March 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 18 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

Havenít done both.  

If I were a West Coast guy I would stay on the West Coast.  No reason spending that money coming to the east coast.  Future Masters in Alabama may be better than both.  Havenít been, but have heard great things.  Put in an application to go this summer.

Placed an application a few weeks ago and heard back today he was accepted.  Should be fun.  I'll make sure to post back as to my thoughts.  I can't justify Pinehurst this year.  I'd rather go to Hawaii. :pimp:

Congrats.  I think the junior masters 10u are mostly 9-10 year old with the occasional 8 YO.  I think I recall your son being 8, so that's. Big deal. Have fun!

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 07:01 PM

One of my buddies has a son who won the future masters last year for his age group. He said it was the best run tournament he has been to. He has done the US Kids Worlds tournament and is looking at doing the IMG sometime soon.

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 07:52 PM

at my daughters age I wouldn't do IMG. For girls in 7-8 its mostly par 3s. That just sounds boring. For boys of course its different.

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:21 AM

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 March 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 18 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

Haven’t done both.  

If I were a West Coast guy I would stay on the West Coast.  No reason spending that money coming to the east coast.  Future Masters in Alabama may be better than both.  Haven’t been, but have heard great things.  Put in an application to go this summer.

Placed an application a few weeks ago and heard back today he was accepted.  Should be fun.  I'll make sure to post back as to my thoughts.  I can't justify Pinehurst this year.  I'd rather go to Hawaii. :pimp:

If you think Pinehurst was hot and humid, wait until you get to Dothan, Alabama in the middle of the summer.  You sweat just thinking of being outside.


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Posted 21 March 2018 - 11:46 AM

My son competed in 7-8 age group for IMG last year and we had a great time.  Three rounds of 18 were tough, but you get a cart and can ride in it all three rounds.  The distance was definitely a bit geared toward some of the slightly longer hitters on the par 5's, but the par 3's and 4's we felt were all fair.  Competition was tough with the winner shooting -13.

We had a lot of fun and met lots of kids you see winning tournaments all over.  The resort was pretty good, lots of practice space for all the competitors.  Would definitely go again if we can.  Helps it's only 20 minutes from us. ;)
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Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:20 PM

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My son competed in 7-8 age group for IMG last year and we had a great time.  Three rounds of 18 were tough, but you get a cart and can ride in it all three rounds.  The distance was definitely a bit geared toward some of the slightly longer hitters on the par 5's, but the par 3's and 4's we felt were all fair.  Competition was tough with the winner shooting -13.

We had a lot of fun and met lots of kids you see winning tournaments all over.  The resort was pretty good, lots of practice space for all the competitors.  Would definitely go again if we can.  Helps it's only 20 minutes from us. ;)

Yikes. -13 is ridic!!  In looking at the scorecard from last year, distances look comparable to the 8-9's for US Kids.  Mike, do the fairways at Sycuan roll out at all?  Maybe we can meet up there sometime in the next couple of months and play the course?
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Posted 21 March 2018 - 01:20 PM

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View PostMikekiM, on 21 March 2018 - 11:46 AM, said:

My son competed in 7-8 age group for IMG last year and we had a great time.  Three rounds of 18 were tough, but you get a cart and can ride in it all three rounds.  The distance was definitely a bit geared toward some of the slightly longer hitters on the par 5's, but the par 3's and 4's we felt were all fair.  Competition was tough with the winner shooting -13.

We had a lot of fun and met lots of kids you see winning tournaments all over.  The resort was pretty good, lots of practice space for all the competitors.  Would definitely go again if we can.  Helps it's only 20 minutes from us. ;)

Yikes. -13 is ridic!!  In looking at the scorecard from last year, distances look comparable to the 8-9's for US Kids.  Mike, do the fairways at Sycuan roll out at all?  Maybe we can meet up there sometime in the next couple of months and play the course?
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 03:43 PM

View Posthangontight, on 19 March 2018 - 06:34 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 March 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 18 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

Haven't done both.  

If I were a West Coast guy I would stay on the West Coast.  No reason spending that money coming to the east coast.  Future Masters in Alabama may be better than both.  Haven't been, but have heard great things.  Put in an application to go this summer.

Placed an application a few weeks ago and heard back today he was accepted.  Should be fun.  I'll make sure to post back as to my thoughts.  I can't justify Pinehurst this year.  I'd rather go to Hawaii. :pimp:

Congrats.  I think the junior masters 10u are mostly 9-10 year old with the occasional 8 YO.  I think I recall your son being 8, so that's. Big deal. Have fun!
  

Ooops, I meant we were accepted into the IMG tournament and not the Masters.

If anyone is going to Torrey this Sunday for IMG registration, let me know.  Would be cool to meet some of you.
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:38 PM

View Postkekoa, on 03 July 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

View Posthangontight, on 19 March 2018 - 06:34 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 March 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 March 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

For those whose kids have played both, what are your thoughts?  Which is the better tournament? Which has better competition?  


My son has only played 1 US Kids Worlds and I thought it was a great experience.  He is going to play IMG this year instead of US Kids primarily since IMG is local to us which equates to huge cost savings.  In addition, IMG is 18 holes over 3 days in stead of 27 over 3 days at Worlds. IMG seems to be a much better test of golf.

Haven't done both.  

If I were a West Coast guy I would stay on the West Coast.  No reason spending that money coming to the east coast.  Future Masters in Alabama may be better than both.  Haven't been, but have heard great things.  Put in an application to go this summer.

Placed an application a few weeks ago and heard back today he was accepted.  Should be fun.  I'll make sure to post back as to my thoughts.  I can't justify Pinehurst this year.  I'd rather go to Hawaii. :pimp:

Congrats.  I think the junior masters 10u are mostly 9-10 year old with the occasional 8 YO.  I think I recall your son being 8, so that's. Big deal. Have fun!
  

Ooops, I meant we were accepted into the IMG tournament and not the Masters.

If anyone is going to Torrey this Sunday for IMG registration, let me know.  Would be cool to meet some of you.

Hope you're having a great time out there!  Should be an exciting few days of golf.


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 03:30 PM

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Hope you're having a great time out there!  Should be an exciting few days of golf.

How do you find scores for this?

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 03:34 PM

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View Postleezer99, on 09 July 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

Hope you're having a great time out there!  Should be an exciting few days of golf.

How do you find scores for this?

https://jwgc.bluegol...leaderboard.htm

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 03:51 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 09 July 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 09 July 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

Hope you're having a great time out there!  Should be an exciting few days of golf.

How do you find scores for this?

Past year's results:
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIR’s.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:51 AM

I would take that -2 all day if you were paired with a kid that shot 142!  That had to be a excruciating. How long was your round?

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM

View Posthangontight, on 11 July 2018 - 05:51 AM, said:

I would take that -2 all day if you were paired with a kid that shot 142!  That had to be a excruciating. How long was your round?

It is a par 75 course with 6 par 5's.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:57 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

View Posthangontight, on 11 July 2018 - 05:51 AM, said:

I would take that -2 all day if you were paired with a kid that shot 142!  That had to be a excruciating. How long was your round?

It is a par 75 course with 6 par 5's.

Sorry, 147.  Same point.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIR’s.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes

Well, I guess it depends on the location(s) for those GIR's.  8 feet or less to the hole? Or just on the green and having 35 foot birdie attempts?   Now sit back and imagine what the score might have been with only 8-10 GIR's.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:06 PM

View Postwildcatden, on 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIRís.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes

Now sit back and imagine what the score might have been with only 8-10 GIR's.

Yup doing that right now. Great advice.... not!!!

Edited by kekoa, 11 July 2018 - 02:25 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:17 PM

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

View Postwildcatden, on 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIR's.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes

Now sit back and imagine what the score might have been with only 8-10 GIR's.

Yup doing that right now. Great advice.

What's the game plan for today?


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:50 AM

How much of an advantage is it to be familiar with the courses played at IMG?

I know 4 top-ranked juniors in different age groups (one who just committed to a top 20 D1 program), none of whom are from SoCal, and none of them are doing well (not even top 1/3).

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 01:44 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 12 July 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

How much of an advantage is it to be familiar with the courses played at IMG?

I know 4 top-ranked juniors in different age groups (one who just committed to a top 20 D1 program), none of whom are from SoCal, and none of them are doing well (not even top 1/3).

In my opinion the course isn’t a factor.  If you are good you are good.  What can be a huge factor is the grass of the greens and in the fairways.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

View Postwildcatden, on 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIR's.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes

Now sit back and imagine what the score might have been with only 8-10 GIR's.

Yup doing that right now. Great advice.... not!!!

now that you guys have done both how would you compare them?

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

View Postdarter79, on 13 July 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

View Postwildcatden, on 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIR's.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes

Now sit back and imagine what the score might have been with only 8-10 GIR's.

Yup doing that right now. Great advice.... not!!!

now that you guys have done both how would you compare them?

After doing both, here is how the two tournaments stack up IMO.  Note that my son played US Kids 7r old and IMG as an 8.

IMG Worlds

Pros
- Cost.  Its local to me so I can drive there and only takes about an hour.
- Very good competition.  Primarily from Asia.  I really do question whether the Thai kids are really  yrs old though.
- Tournament was well run.
- IMG is in San Diego where there is a lot to see and do for families who want to make it a mini vacation.
- Weather is normally very nice.  Very little humidity.

Cons
- Players have to register the day before.
- The course we played at Sycuan Resort is basically a muni.  Not very good conditions.
- Parade doesn't hold a candle to US Kids Tourney
- Should probably initiate a max 10 stroke rule

US Kids Worlds
Pros
- The tournament is just grand.  Probably twice the field of IMG so you get even more better players from all over the world- not just Asia.  Very well run.  Almost feels like a mini tour event.
- Courses are way better than what IMG players play- With exception of the older kids who get to play Torrey.
- The parade is amazing.

Cons
- Cost (for us coming from California)

In a nutshell. If I lived within driving distance of US Kids Worlds, I would play that tournament every year that my son qualified.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 05:32 PM

View Postkekoa, on 13 July 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

View Postdarter79, on 13 July 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

View Postwildcatden, on 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 11 July 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

My son finished day 1 with a -2. Not very good given hitting 16 GIR's.  Its going to be a tough few days out there to catch the leaders.

One of the kids we played with shot +72 today.  Yikes

Now sit back and imagine what the score might have been with only 8-10 GIR's.

Yup doing that right now. Great advice.... not!!!

now that you guys have done both how would you compare them?

After doing both, here is how the two tournaments stack up IMO.  Note that my son played US Kids 7r old and IMG as an 8.

IMG Worlds

Pros
- Cost.  Its local to me so I can drive there and only takes about an hour.
- Very good competition.  Primarily from Asia.  I really do question whether the Thai kids are really  yrs old though.
- Tournament was well run.
- IMG is in San Diego where there is a lot to see and do for families who want to make it a mini vacation.
- Weather is normally very nice.  Very little humidity.

Cons
- Players have to register the day before.
- The course we played at Sycuan Resort is basically a muni.  Not very good conditions.
- Parade doesn't hold a candle to US Kids Tourney
- Should probably initiate a max 10 stroke rule

US Kids Worlds
Pros
- The tournament is just grand.  Probably twice the field of IMG so you get even more better players from all over the world- not just Asia.  Very well run.  Almost feels like a mini tour event.
- Courses are way better than what IMG players play- With exception of the older kids who get to play Torrey.
- The parade is amazing.

Cons
- Cost (for us coming from California)

In a nutshell. If I lived within driving distance of US Kids Worlds, I would play that tournament every year that my son qualified.

Lets say you lived in the middle of both which would you pick?


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