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High Spin vs Low Spin Shaft


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#1 nochct1

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:47 PM

Hi - I was screwing around on a monitor recently and was hitting some M2s without really knowing anything about the Shafts.

I ended up getting great numbers with the Aldila 2KXV Orange. Launch was around 14 and Spin was around 2200. The ball was going a little left, but perhaps that was due to shaft flex.

I tried a Kuro Kage, but that spun way too much. I also tried the 2KXV Green and wasn't a fan. I currently use a Ping Tour 65 and while I like it, it does seem to Spin a bit much.

When I looked at the charts, I saw that the Orange shaft is high Spin and high launch.

Is it possible that I was able to get low Spin and good launch from this shaft even though it's not what it was designed for?


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#2 Valtiel

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:02 PM

View Postnochct1, on 13 March 2018 - 04:47 PM, said:

Hi - I was screwing around on a monitor recently and was hitting some M2s without really knowing anything about the Shafts.

I ended up getting great numbers with the Aldila 2KXV Orange. Launch was around 14 and Spin was around 2200. The ball was going a little left, but perhaps that was due to shaft flex.

I tried a Kuro Kage, but that spun way too much. I also tried the 2KXV Green and wasn't a fan. I currently use a Ping Tour 65 and while I like it, it does seem to Spin a bit much.

When I looked at the charts, I saw that the Orange shaft is high Spin and high launch.

Is it possible that I was able to get low Spin and good launch from this shaft even though it's not what it was designed for?

That depends on quite a few variables. Unless all the strikes were the same then spin discrepancies can be attributed to different strike qualities. Regarding high spin vs. low spin shafts though, its all about loft. Higher spinning/launching shafts are usually more flexible in the tip and sometimes in the mid section as well which provides more forward deflection (see below) approaching impact which increases launch and spin as well is slightly closes the face. Now this will vary A LOT depending on how you release the club. The later and more aggressive your release, the more forward deflection and the more launch/spin. Obviously the inverse is true as well and if your release is such that forward deflection is decreased/minimized then you won't see the high launch/high spin characteristics as much. Angle of attack also plays a role in this but I would imagine yours would have to be fairly positive in order to get those kinds of numbers (assuming your driver is a normal 8.5-10.5* of loft).

Aside from all that, without knowing your clubhead speed, swing style/tempo, or strike locations, this is all fairly speculative as to why you're seeing what you're seeing.

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Edited by Valtiel, 13 March 2018 - 05:03 PM.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 04:02 AM

The text is all very good - but that picture is all rolling shutter effect.   The actual amount of forward deflection, even with a softer shaft is going to be much smaller - more typically on the lines of 1/2" or maybe a touch more - even for very soft shafts and late releases if you in a reasonable flex for your swing speed.

Valtiel mentioned it but it needs to be emphasized a bit more.  The #1 factor by far in determining spin (for a driver or wood) is the impact location on the face.   If you are seeing large variations then it's a good bet that the face impact is the cause. Second would be the swing itself and the dynamic loft delivered (amount of forward or reverse shaft lean) at impact.  This can vary a bit with the bend profile or weight for some people based on how the person reacts to different feels from the shaft but more commonly wont change a lot with different shafts.   Face to can will also be a contributor the actual dynamic loft.

Next is the actual loft of the head and finally - typically in last place - is the contributions from the shaft bending.

View Postnochct1, on 13 March 2018 - 04:47 PM, said:

Is it possible that I was able to get low Spin and good launch from this shaft even though it's not what it was designed for?

So yes, it's very possible.

Next time, use some foot powder spray to see the actual impact location and how it might change with the different options.

Also when trying different shafts, it's usually more important to pay attention to shaft weight - swing weights (changing shafts can cause a change in swing weight) and playing lengths then the stiffness profile.

Edited by Stuart G., 14 March 2018 - 04:03 AM.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:01 PM

Thanks guys!

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:27 AM

Yeah you need a proper slow mo camera to capture swing images thats just the camera joining frames.


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