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Did Tiger play 18 for second place?


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#1 Darin322

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:13 AM

Why did he hit a 2-iron off the tee?  The announcers said he had the longest approach all day - I think it was 185, uphill, into the breeze.  I know he's Tiger Woods and probably had a strategy for the hole, but when you're down by 1 with one hole to go, why not play aggressively?  Even for Tiger, there's got to be a correlation between distance and proximity to the cup.  He's going to get a 150 yard shot (like Patrick Reed had) closer than a 185 yard shot.  Why not try 3W or D and get it up the fairway?


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:14 AM

Agree...

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:16 AM

You can’t win from the trees or deep rough

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:24 AM

Since I have not won 79 tournaments and 14 majors, I don't know the answer.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:24 AM

This is the epitome of touring professionals v WRX crowd.....


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:32 AM

Gonna be a real quiet forum if you have to be a touring pro to post.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:36 AM

Yesterday reminded me of the final round of the 2009 PGA Championship.  Prior to that tournament, anytime Tiger was on the leaderboard the other players would fall back and he would coast in to win.  Tiger played very conservatively in the final round of the 2009 PGA thinking YE Yang would fall back and it never happened.

Seemed like the same thing happened yesterday.  He hit way too many long irons off the tee.  It's hard to score when you are 50+ yards behind everyone else.  I agree that it is also hard to score when you are in the trees and/or deep rough, but adding an inch to his driver and going to a 65 gram shaft is the opposite of what he should focusing on with the driver.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:38 AM

I think he was only playing the percentages.   Chance of hitting 2i in fairway multiplied by hitting it close from the subsequent yardage, vs chance of hitting driver in fairway x hitting it close from that yardage.  I think for him the calculus probably suggested the former, on that day.   Curious to know what he’d been using off 18 tee all week though.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:52 AM

"Tiger needs to stop hitting driver all the time, he sucks with it!"

"Tiger needs to hit more fairway woods and irons off the tee"

"He wasn't aggressive enough, he should have hit driver!"

This is complete hindsight bias and a waste of time. He put himself in the fairway all day. If he hits driver off that tee and ends up in the rough you all would have yelled just as loud about him breaking his strategy that was working.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:00 AM

By going 2-iron/7-iron, I thought he played to his current strengths.  His long and middle irons are very solid, whereas his driver and short irons are suspect.  I think we're getting our first real look at the 'new' Tiger, one who is more of a game manager.  It's a somewhat Faldo-esque approach.  I like it.  Leave the bombing to the bombers.


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:04 AM

"2nd sucks"
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:05 AM

Say whatever you want about TW, but I'm pretty sure with the money he has in the bank and the trophies he has on the shelf, he is only playing to win, always.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:12 AM

View PostMountainGoat, on 12 March 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

By going 2-iron/7-iron, I thought he played to his current strengths.  His long and middle irons are very solid, whereas his driver and short irons are suspect.  I think we're getting our first real look at the 'new' Tiger, one who is more of a game manager.  It's a somewhat Faldo-esque approach.  I like it.  Leave the bombing to the bombers.

He's the best when presented with the opportunity to hit a cut into the green.  The 2 iron allowed him to do just that.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:15 AM

Are you kidding?? Tiger doesn’t play for 2nd place. Even if he were down 3 on the 18th, part of him would be saying, “Now, when I hole my tee shot, I’ll force a playoff....”

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:19 AM

View Posttgreenwood11, on 12 March 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:

You can't win from the trees or deep rough
Exactly what I was thinking.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:21 AM

The way he was hitting 3 wood I was surprised he didn’t hit that. I wouldn’t be surprised if he missed that 2 iron a bit. My guess is with that pin placement being in the fairway was the most important factor if he wanted to tie.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:23 AM

Round 1 - he got par on 18.  Had 190 in, so must've hot 2-iron.
Round 2 - he got par on 18.  Had 170 in
Round 3 - he got par on 18.  Had 168 in, hit 2-iron (according to announcers on Sunday)
Round 4 - he got par on 18.  Had 185 in, hit 2-iron (according to announcers on Sunday)

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:47 AM

Do you honestly think that Tiger has ever played for 2nd in his life?

I get that he is not the same guy that once said "second sucks, third is even worse" but he is still Tiger. 79 wins, 14 majors, no chance that he protects second place, every chance that he decides on a strategy and sticks to it.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:52 AM

View PostMidMOGolfer, on 12 March 2018 - 05:36 AM, said:

Yesterday reminded me of the final round of the 2009 PGA Championship.  Prior to that tournament, anytime Tiger was on the leaderboard the other players would fall back and he would coast in to win.  Tiger played very conservatively in the final round of the 2009 PGA thinking YE Yang would fall back and it never happened.

Seemed like the same thing happened yesterday.  He hit way too many long irons off the tee.  It's hard to score when you are 50+ yards behind everyone else.  I agree that it is also hard to score when you are in the trees and/or deep rough, but adding an inch to his driver and going to a 65 gram shaft is the opposite of what he should focusing on with the driver.

He played just like he has all week off the tee.  The difference yesterday is that Tiger made exactly nothing on the greens until the 17th hole.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:02 AM

he it his approach closer than Reed did....  id say it was the right play... he didnt catch all of the 2 iron , and missed the 7 a touch.. 2 perfrect strikes equals 2 iron 8 iron into... i understand this strategy...  id rather have an uphill tucked 8iron vs a wedge...much easier to control the spin.. keeping a sw or pw on that toptier if its a full shot would be hard

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:06 AM

After the round, Tiger explained his choice on 18. He said 3w brought the bunker into play, and his only regret about the 2i off the tee was that he didn't flight it lower. Personally, I thought his swing on 18 tee looked a little disjointed.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:07 AM

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This is the epitome of touring professionals v WRX crowd.....

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:10 AM

View PostDarin322, on 12 March 2018 - 05:13 AM, said:

Why did he hit a 2-iron off the tee?  The announcers said he had the longest approach all day - I think it was 185, uphill, into the breeze.  I know he's Tiger Woods and probably had a strategy for the hole, but when you're down by 1 with one hole to go, why not play aggressively?  Even for Tiger, there's got to be a correlation between distance and proximity to the cup.  He's going to get a 150 yard shot (like Patrick Reed had) closer than a 185 yard shot.  Why not try 3W or D and get it up the fairway?



Reed had 133 and made bogey.
Tiger had 185 and had a legitimate chance for birdie, and went on to make par.

I think Tiger has a pretty good idea of what works for Tiger.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:12 AM

No.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:16 AM

View PostDarin322, on 12 March 2018 - 05:13 AM, said:

Why did he hit a 2-iron off the tee?  The announcers said he had the longest approach all day - I think it was 185, uphill, into the breeze.  I know he's Tiger Woods and probably had a strategy for the hole, but when you're down by 1 with one hole to go, why not play aggressively?  Even for Tiger, there's got to be a correlation between distance and proximity to the cup.  He's going to get a 150 yard shot (like Patrick Reed had) closer than a 185 yard shot.  Why not try 3W or D and get it up the fairway?

Yes, Tiger buried that 50 footer on 17 just so he could stand up on 18 tee and "play for second".  Good grief.

Im surprised he didnt hit 3 wood, but I also understand why - with that pin location on that hole, you dont get a realistic birdie chance by putting it in the rough or the trees.  He gave himself what he thought was the best chance at making birdie, which was putting it in the fairway, albeit farther back than most, and getting his ball to the green.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:19 AM

Tiger came within a tap in of a playoff. Enough said.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:25 AM

View PostMidMOGolfer, on 12 March 2018 - 05:36 AM, said:

Yesterday reminded me of the final round of the 2009 PGA Championship.  Prior to that tournament, anytime Tiger was on the leaderboard the other players would fall back and he would coast in to win.  Tiger played very conservatively in the final round of the 2009 PGA thinking YE Yang would fall back and it never happened.

Seemed like the same thing happened yesterday.  He hit way too many long irons off the tee.  It's hard to score when you are 50+ yards behind everyone else.  I agree that it is also hard to score when you are in the trees and/or deep rough, but adding an inch to his driver and going to a 65 gram shaft is the opposite of what he should focusing on with the driver.

Tiger beat everyone but one person on the leaderboard despite being 2 back to start the day.  And the guy who won had to shoot 65 to do it.

That course was not set up for scoring on Sunday.  Very few pins were accessible to "go at".  Paul Casey won in large part to the fact that he made three birdie putts all in the 20-foot range....the same type of putts that burned the edge for Tiger yesterday.  It has little to do with "playing conservatively".

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:40 AM

View PostDarin322, on 12 March 2018 - 05:13 AM, said:

Why did he hit a 2-iron off the tee?  The announcers said he had the longest approach all day - I think it was 185, uphill, into the breeze.  I know he's Tiger Woods and probably had a strategy for the hole, but when you're down by 1 with one hole to go, why not play aggressively?  Even for Tiger, there's got to be a correlation between distance and proximity to the cup.  He's going to get a 150 yard shot (like Patrick Reed had) closer than a 185 yard shot.  Why not try 3W or D and get it up the fairway?
I think Tiger had a lot of confidence in his short game and putting and figured it's a lower risk option to make sure he's in the fairway with a clean lie which probably gives him the best chance for a birdie as opposed to maybe 40 yards closer but behind the trees or in the thick stuff.
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:41 AM

Only at WRX a living legend plays like a true champion, can't win and is questioned for the "way" he played the round.  We at WRX are the Kings of Hackdom lol

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:51 AM

One Tiger is probably the best iron play in history from 150-225.  Two if u actually see that hole it gets extremely hard and tight pass/at those bunkers. So yes he had the perfect strategy, just didn't make the put.....

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Wedges: SM6 50F and 54S DG100; SM5 60K DGS400
Putter: Piretti Cottonwood II
Ball: Titleist AVX

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