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GD DI, TP, IZ

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#1 scottleo

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:15 PM

Has anyone compared these 3 shafts in the driver and or 3 wood?  If so, what did you choose and why?  Are these 3 shafts similar in ball flight, spin, dispersion &/or distance?

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:36 PM

I have the AD-BB in my driver and AD-D! in my fairway (2017 M1s) currently and I've hit all three you listed. The AD-DI (in my opinion) is the absolute best shaft that's every been produced. I've pitted it against everything on the market (albeit an expensive experiment) and nothing beat it in my fairway. I'm currently tinkering with the AD-BB but it'll most likely lead back to the AD-DI. The profile is perfect for what I like, the X-flex tipped is not too stout and it does everything I want it to. The AD-TP is very similar, but I found it to be a little stouter and didn't react as well to my swing. I've seen it advertised and reviewed by other WRX'ers as "an AD-DI on steroids" and I can see where those comparisons might be true. Very similar trajectories, launch angles and spin rates for me. If you like the AD-DI and have a smooth enough transition to keep the AD-TP (which I really don't) under control....then go for it. The AD-IZ didn't impress me one bit. I know that everyone is freaking out over it since Speith made the change but I was highly unimpressed. Maybe my expectations were too high (given my love for AD-DI and respect/understanding of the AD-TP) but it's a pass all day for me. Everything about it felt different, which I didn't like.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:41 PM

Good stuff Birdie. Which Shaft would hold up better to more aggressive transition?

I had the AD DI 6 s and could not control it at 102ss and aggressive transition. I was hoping the AD TP would be more up my alley.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:06 AM

View PostOspreyCI, on 01 March 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

Good stuff Birdie. Which Shaft would hold up better to more aggressive transition?

I had the AD DI 6 s and could not control it at 102ss and aggressive transition. I was hoping the AD TP would be more up my alley.

The AD-DI plays a little softer to flex, in my opinion, so I'd give the AD-DI 6X or even 7X a try with your swing speed. I love how the DI loads and unloads with my "not so smooth" transition and steep angle of attack. This was the first shaft I've ever played in X and it's not as daunting as it sounds. Much more manageable, than say, a PX offering if S+ or X.
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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:57 AM

View PostBirdieBirdieX, on 02 March 2018 - 09:06 AM, said:

View PostOspreyCI, on 01 March 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

Good stuff Birdie. Which Shaft would hold up better to more aggressive transition?

I had the AD DI 6 s and could not control it at 102ss and aggressive transition. I was hoping the AD TP would be more up my alley.

The AD-DI plays a little softer to flex, in my opinion, so I'd give the AD-DI 6X or even 7X a try with your swing speed. I love how the DI loads and unloads with my "not so smooth" transition and steep angle of attack. This was the first shaft I've ever played in X and it's not as daunting as it sounds. Much more manageable, than say, a PX offering if S+ or X.
I think you are right. During a TM demo day at the range they put me into a Tensei CK Blue X flex and it felt good. I also demoíd a guys Rogue 60 Black in X and it also felt very good. Maybe the AD DI 6 in X flex is the ticket.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 10:09 AM

View PostOspreyCI, on 02 March 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostBirdieBirdieX, on 02 March 2018 - 09:06 AM, said:

View PostOspreyCI, on 01 March 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

Good stuff Birdie. Which Shaft would hold up better to more aggressive transition?

I had the AD DI 6 s and could not control it at 102ss and aggressive transition. I was hoping the AD TP would be more up my alley.

The AD-DI plays a little softer to flex, in my opinion, so I'd give the AD-DI 6X or even 7X a try with your swing speed. I love how the DI loads and unloads with my "not so smooth" transition and steep angle of attack. This was the first shaft I've ever played in X and it's not as daunting as it sounds. Much more manageable, than say, a PX offering if S+ or X.
I think you are right. During a TM demo day at the range they put me into a Tensei CK Blue X flex and it felt good. I also demo'd a guys Rogue 60 Black in X and it also felt very good. Maybe the AD DI 6 in X flex is the ticket.

The search is never over...

You said it right...search is never over! I keep trying everything...next up is the Tensei White
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Posted 02 March 2018 - 02:45 PM

I play a 1/2" tipped DI 6S. Was a bit soft without the tipping, and with tipping it just feels better. Results are about the same, but feel is what matters. If I could do it over again, I'd just get a 6X.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 03:07 PM

View PostDatSliceDoe, on 02 March 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

I play a 1/2" tipped DI 6S. Was a bit soft without the tipping, and with tipping it just feels better. Results are about the same, but feel is what matters. If I could do it over again, I'd just get a 6X.
Thanks. Can I ask your swing speed and characteristics?
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Posted 02 March 2018 - 06:23 PM

View PostOspreyCI, on 02 March 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostDatSliceDoe, on 02 March 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

I play a 1/2" tipped DI 6S. Was a bit soft without the tipping, and with tipping it just feels better. Results are about the same, but feel is what matters. If I could do it over again, I'd just get a 6X.
Thanks. Can I ask your swing speed and characteristics?

105-108ss, moderate tempo, quicker transition. I am by no means a true WRXr though. I played a 7S in my fairway wood and it was solid at the recommended tipping. I switched to a PX HZRDUS Black 75S, in a different head and prefer it to the 7S actually in the fairway. Those are two separate fairway heads though.

I'm considering a HZRDUS Red 65S in the driver because you can never try too many combos!

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 07:11 PM

To me the profiles are all very similar. The AD IZ has a more one-piece feel, doesn't kick as much as the DI.


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 07:17 PM

I think you will like the tensei white Birdie. I just got it in a 60tx in the m4 and it is super great coming from a tensei v2 70tx.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:06 PM

From launch high to low
Di IZ TP

From spin high to low
DI IZ TP

Feel best to worst
TP IZ DI

Found the IZ to be a slightly lower launching and spinning version of the DI but the TP is a phenomenal golf shaft. A little more stout and "stable" but not difficult to hit. Mid to low spin and mid launch.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:50 PM

View Posttaylormade4life, on 03 March 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

From launch high to low
Di IZ TP

From spin high to low
DI IZ TP

Feel best to worst
TP IZ DI

Found the IZ to be a slightly lower launching and spinning version of the DI but the TP is a phenomenal golf shaft. A little more stout and "stable" but not difficult to hit. Mid to low spin and mid launch.
Good feedback. Thanks. The TP is the one I am
Interested in.

Can I ask if you have ever hit the Rogue Silver? Any comparison?

Edited by OspreyCI, 03 March 2018 - 02:51 PM.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:25 PM

View Posttaylormade4life, on 03 March 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

From launch high to low
Di IZ TP

From spin high to low
DI IZ TP

Feel best to worst
TP IZ DI

Found the IZ to be a slightly lower launching and spinning version of the DI but the TP is a phenomenal golf shaft. A little more stout and "stable" but not difficult to hit. Mid to low spin and mid launch.


Very Well said.   I agree 100%.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:57 AM

View Postnateyack, on 02 March 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

I think you will like the tensei white Birdie. I just got it in a 60tx in the m4 and it is super great coming from a tensei v2 70tx.

I will have to give this a try! Sounds great

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:18 AM

What are you looking to get out of your shaft?

High Ball Flight, moderate spin, etc...

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:54 PM

View Posttwjames, on 05 March 2018 - 10:18 AM, said:

What are you looking to get out of your shaft?

High Ball Flight, moderate spin, etc...
Higher Launch, less spin, tight dispersion.  Want to try all three of these and do a side by side comparison.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:39 PM

View Postnova6868, on 02 March 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

To me the profiles are all very similar. The AD IZ has a more one-piece feel, doesn't kick as much as the DI.

Exactly my feelings, have an IZ 6 stiff and hit it against my T1100 6.0 65 and prefer the T1100, the IZ feels one piece and is more mid stiff imo, itís off to the BST, I just love the feel of my T1100 for ME, but the IZ was the same on distance and accuracy, very tight dispersion, but prefer the feel of the T1100, Titleist 917D2 9.5 Head.
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:11 AM

View PostTLfan, on 13 March 2018 - 07:39 PM, said:

View Postnova6868, on 02 March 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

To me the profiles are all very similar. The AD IZ has a more one-piece feel, doesn't kick as much as the DI.

Exactly my feelings, have an IZ 6 stiff and hit it against my T1100 6.0 65 and prefer the T1100, the IZ feels one piece and is more mid stiff imo, it's off to the BST, I just love the feel of my T1100 for ME, but the IZ was the same on distance and accuracy, very tight dispersion, but prefer the feel of the T1100, Titleist 917D2 9.5 Head.
What do u mean by 'one piece'?  Would you use the IZ in a 3 wood for high trajectory?
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:13 AM

It is very mid stiff to me and I found it to feel hollow if that makes sense? I launch the T1100 higher than the IZ, which is bizarre I know. I may try it again this evening on some different settings to see if I can get different results.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:37 AM

I have some limited experience with the IZ in 6x in an M3 driver and so far it's been good.  On paper the TP seemed like it would be a good fit for me in terms of launch & spin, but I have found the pronounced kick difficult to time reliably.  I tried the TP in both S & X, but still had trouble with pull-draws and the occasional double-cross when trying to hit a fade.

I would have to agree with the description of the IZ as more of a one-piece feel.  The pronounced kick that comes at a certain point during the loading and unloading of the shaft like wuth the DI and TP isn't as prevalent or noticeable in the IZ.  The IZ seems to load and release more gradually and uniformly, as opposed to the abrupt bend and kick of the other two. This gives me a feeling of directional confidence in the IZ and allows me to trust the shot I'm trying to hit.

I know the IZ has been dubbed as a new and improved DI, but to me it feels entirely different, and better.  I'll report back as I get more time with it.
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:54 AM

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

I have some limited experience with the IZ in 6x in an M3 driver and so far it's been good.  On paper the TP seemed like it would be a good fit for me in terms of launch & spin, but I have found the pronounced kick difficult to time reliably.  I tried the TP in both S & X, but still had trouble with pull-draws and the occasional double-cross when trying to hit a fade.

I would have to agree with the description of the IZ as more of a one-piece feel.  The pronounced kick that comes at a certain point during the loading and unloading of the shaft like wuth the DI and TP isn't as prevalent or noticeable in the IZ.  The IZ seems to load and release more gradually and uniformly, as opposed to the abrupt bend and kick of the other two. This gives me a feeling of directional confidence in the IZ and allows me to trust the shot I'm trying to hit.

I know the IZ has been dubbed as a new and improved DI, but to me it feels entirely different, and better.  I'll report back as I get more time with it.
the bolded part is exactly what i saw with the TP. i'm intrigued by the IZ just, haven't had the chance to try one.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 14 March 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

I have some limited experience with the IZ in 6x in an M3 driver and so far it's been good.  On paper the TP seemed like it would be a good fit for me in terms of launch & spin, but I have found the pronounced kick difficult to time reliably.  I tried the TP in both S & X, but still had trouble with pull-draws and the occasional double-cross when trying to hit a fade.

I would have to agree with the description of the IZ as more of a one-piece feel.  The pronounced kick that comes at a certain point during the loading and unloading of the shaft like wuth the DI and TP isn't as prevalent or noticeable in the IZ.  The IZ seems to load and release more gradually and uniformly, as opposed to the abrupt bend and kick of the other two. This gives me a feeling of directional confidence in the IZ and allows me to trust the shot I'm trying to hit.

I know the IZ has been dubbed as a new and improved DI, but to me it feels entirely different, and better.  I'll report back as I get more time with it.
the bolded part is exactly what i saw with the TP. i'm intrigued by the IZ just, haven't had the chance to try one.

I was very surprised at how differently the IZ feels and responds compared to the other two.  The TP feels very similar to the DI to me, just firmer overall and not as loose flex for flex.

I hit some knock-down type drives into some serious cold NJ wind with the IZ that came off nicely, and I was equally comfortable launching it high down wind.  I'm encouraged by the performance and it feels "right" for me.
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 14 March 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

I have some limited experience with the IZ in 6x in an M3 driver and so far it's been good.  On paper the TP seemed like it would be a good fit for me in terms of launch & spin, but I have found the pronounced kick difficult to time reliably.  I tried the TP in both S & X, but still had trouble with pull-draws and the occasional double-cross when trying to hit a fade.

I would have to agree with the description of the IZ as more of a one-piece feel.  The pronounced kick that comes at a certain point during the loading and unloading of the shaft like wuth the DI and TP isn't as prevalent or noticeable in the IZ.  The IZ seems to load and release more gradually and uniformly, as opposed to the abrupt bend and kick of the other two. This gives me a feeling of directional confidence in the IZ and allows me to trust the shot I'm trying to hit.

I know the IZ has been dubbed as a new and improved DI, but to me it feels entirely different, and better.  I'll report back as I get more time with it.
the bolded part is exactly what i saw with the TP. i'm intrigued by the IZ just, haven't had the chance to try one.

I was very surprised at how differently the IZ feels and responds compared to the other two.  The TP feels very similar to the DI to me, just firmer overall and not as loose flex for flex.

I hit some knock-down type drives into some serious cold NJ wind with the IZ that came off nicely, and I was equally comfortable launching it high down wind.  I'm encouraged by the performance and it feels "right" for me.
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:04 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 14 March 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 14 March 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

I have some limited experience with the IZ in 6x in an M3 driver and so far it's been good.  On paper the TP seemed like it would be a good fit for me in terms of launch & spin, but I have found the pronounced kick difficult to time reliably.  I tried the TP in both S & X, but still had trouble with pull-draws and the occasional double-cross when trying to hit a fade.

I would have to agree with the description of the IZ as more of a one-piece feel.  The pronounced kick that comes at a certain point during the loading and unloading of the shaft like wuth the DI and TP isn't as prevalent or noticeable in the IZ.  The IZ seems to load and release more gradually and uniformly, as opposed to the abrupt bend and kick of the other two. This gives me a feeling of directional confidence in the IZ and allows me to trust the shot I'm trying to hit.

I know the IZ has been dubbed as a new and improved DI, but to me it feels entirely different, and better.  I'll report back as I get more time with it.
the bolded part is exactly what i saw with the TP. i'm intrigued by the IZ just, haven't had the chance to try one.

I was very surprised at how differently the IZ feels and responds compared to the other two.  The TP feels very similar to the DI to me, just firmer overall and not as loose flex for flex.

I hit some knock-down type drives into some serious cold NJ wind with the IZ that came off nicely, and I was equally comfortable launching it high down wind.  I'm encouraged by the performance and it feels "right" for me.
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Ping G 22 Hybrid (2 flat) - Ping Tour 80 S
Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
Ping Glide 2.0 - SS 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
Taylormade Ho Toe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 01:23 PM

Iím really surprised that the TP didnít get any traction on tour and the IZ has really taken off given their stated profiles. The TP seems like it would be a better fit for those speeds.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 02:00 PM

View Postgioguy21, on 14 March 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

View Postdpb5031, on 14 March 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

I have some limited experience with the IZ in 6x in an M3 driver and so far it's been good.  On paper the TP seemed like it would be a good fit for me in terms of launch & spin, but I have found the pronounced kick difficult to time reliably.  I tried the TP in both S & X, but still had trouble with pull-draws and the occasional double-cross when trying to hit a fade.

I would have to agree with the description of the IZ as more of a one-piece feel.  The pronounced kick that comes at a certain point during the loading and unloading of the shaft like wuth the DI and TP isn't as prevalent or noticeable in the IZ.  The IZ seems to load and release more gradually and uniformly, as opposed to the abrupt bend and kick of the other two. This gives me a feeling of directional confidence in the IZ and allows me to trust the shot I'm trying to hit.

I know the IZ has been dubbed as a new and improved DI, but to me it feels entirely different, and better.  I'll report back as I get more time with it.
the bolded part is exactly what i saw with the TP. i'm intrigued by the IZ just, haven't had the chance to try one.

And I thought it was just me....still might be me but I see the same thing sometimes with my GD TP6X in my 2017 M1. I have an M3 with Tensei Pro White 60TX coming, so I will be able to compare those two shafts.

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