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#241 Hawkeye77

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 05:11 PM

View Postwmblake2000, on 09 June 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.

Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.

Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:17 PM

View PostHawkeye77, on 09 June 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

View Postwmblake2000, on 09 June 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.

Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.

Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.

What shafts did you put in those beauties?
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Callway xhot 3 h
Titleist T-MB 4-W Modus 105 R
RomaRo Pro 3-W KBS Tour V 110 S
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Posted 10 June 2018 - 08:30 AM

View Postwmblake2000, on 09 June 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View PostHawkeye77, on 09 June 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

View Postwmblake2000, on 09 June 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.

Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.

Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.

What shafts did you put in those beauties?

Recoil 95 F4s - experimented with them in another set of irons instead of usual KBS Tour 90 and like them a lot.

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 10:56 AM

Nice. Been thinking about the same thing....
Callaway Epic 10.5
Callaway Epic Hybrid 2h
Callway xhot 3 h
Titleist T-MB 4-W Modus 105 R
RomaRo Pro 3-W KBS Tour V 110 S
MacGregor 1025M Vfoil 4-W
Fourteen mt28v3 50, 52, 54,58
Cameron Futura 5W

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 01:45 AM

Do you have a place to be fit?


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 11:01 AM

View PostHawkeye77, on 10 June 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

View Postwmblake2000, on 09 June 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View PostHawkeye77, on 09 June 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

View Postwmblake2000, on 09 June 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.

Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.

Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.

What shafts did you put in those beauties?

Recoil 95 F4s - experimented with them in another set of irons instead of usual KBS Tour 90 and like them a lot.

absolutely great tastes, sir!  got lots of enjoyment watching them being made.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:55 PM

So glad to see this thread.  So glad the boys are back.  Patrick,  Iíll be contacting you soon!  Still have my specs from the scratch irons??  Lol

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:41 PM

Iíve noticed this on Dufners clubs & some other club manufacturers have this too. The picture below shows a thicker area back near the hosel. Does this have a performance advantage or just a look preference? I myself donít like the look but was curious.24C163B3-58C8-4DF2-BB3F-B84DE22A4C20.jpeg

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:51 PM

View Postragweed10, on 14 June 2018 - 04:41 PM, said:

I've noticed this on Dufners clubs & some other club manufacturers have this too. The picture below shows a thicker area back near the hosel. Does this have a performance advantage or just a look preference? I myself don't like the look but was curious.Attachment 24C163B3-58C8-4DF2-BB3F-B84DE22A4C20.jpeg

It's just the high crotch, which is part of the design.  Some irons will have a greater decent angle from the toe, or just a lower toe in general, causing a lower crotch area.  Other designs might incorporate a dip in the crotch area to reduce the thickness; Steelhead irons come to mind.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:17 PM

Can you give us Dufner's specs on his irons and wedges, lofts particularly? I mean length, lie and loft would be nice, but I'll take what I can get! He is playing very well today!!

Edited by mesegrn, 14 June 2018 - 06:18 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:49 PM

So much for the latest/greatest.  Duf was over +7 Strokes Gain Approaches today (Thursday).  Something's working.
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Posted 16 June 2018 - 03:16 PM

View Postmesegrn, on 14 June 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Can you give us Dufner's specs on his irons and wedges, lofts particularly? I mean length, lie and loft would be nice, but I'll take what I can get! He is playing very well today!!


These were added to the WRX front page story on Duff Daddy's irons:

Loft: 23/28/32/36/40/44/48
Lie: 59.5/60/60.5/61/61.5/62/62.5
Weights: D-3 (-2g for chrome) 50g grip, 38.5/38/37.5/37/36.5/36/35.75″ cut length
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3w:  Stage 2 Tour 3w, SK Fiber Tour Trac 100 X, 42.5"
2h Stage 2 Tour, NV105 S or DGS400
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Occasionally: 1 iron Maxfli Revolution, DGS400

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LW:  Maltby Design 60°, DGS300 tipped 1"
SW:  Ram Troon Grind 58°, Dynamic S (with 1-PW set, replacing SW/LW above)
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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:10 PM

Gents...first off Happy Fathers Day to those of you who are.  Iíve begun chatting with Ari, about getting process started.  I thought I was excited the day I picked up my CTS-V.  The car is fun for certain, but I now have that Christmas morning when your 5yrs old feeling in my gut.  Iím not sure if Iím more pumped about the sweetness of the clubs, or the chance to bounce ideas off some of the greats in their field.  This could go on forever.  Letís just end it with I canít FREAKINí wait.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:17 PM

View PostBogey London, on 25 May 2018 - 07:13 AM, said:

View Postjblack983, on 25 May 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

Email Patrick@nationalcustomworks.com

You will not be dissapointed. Promise you that

Please reveal a bit of procedure and prices, if not a secret.

I sent a note Friday night, hoping to here back this week.  I looked at my phone about 30min after the US open ended.  Ari had already replied to my questions.  This makes me super happy I didnít order PXGs a month ago.  When Ari broke down the procedure my wife had to wipe drool off my chin.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:38 PM

I feel ya on this for sure.  This will be my only set out of too many to list purchased this way.  The beauty of it is, think of what you liked about every iron youíve ever hit.  Let them know and it will be done that way.  
[quote name='wmblake2000' timestamp='1527101365' post='17400660']
[quote name='FairwayFred' timestamp='1527078365' post='17398506']
[quote name='bjp1' timestamp='1526928824' post='17389584']
Patrick/Ari, would you mind commenting on the design characteristics of the heads in this pic?  I'm trying to understand what each design accomplished for a given player (trajectory, helps with certain type of miss tendencies, etc.).  This was done in an earlier post with 3 of the designs, but was hoping to see comments on others you've done.


[/quote]

Starting top left and going down,

1.  Reverse muscle.  Highest COG.  Lowest ball flight.

2.  Diamond back.  High COG but not as high as Reverse.  Lots of weight centered behind sweet spot.  Extra solid feel.  

3.  Toe weighted.  Lower COG (can modify COG higher or lower) weight moved out to toe.  Slight fade bias.

4.  Half diamond.  Low to mid COG.  Lots of weight behind sweet spot.

Column on the right starting at the top and going down.

5.  Mid COG Double muscle.  Can also be made high COG or low COG.  Low COG version has a little heel/toe weighting.

6.  Classic muscle.  Mid COG, more standard weighted blade design.

7.  Heel weighted. Low/mid COG.  Weight shifted to the heel.  Slight draw bias.

8.  Low COG, Heel/Toe weighted muscle.  Higher ball flight and extra forgiveness in a muscle back design.
[/quote]

That's really helpful.  One of the things about getting clubs built is I finally need to really understand what I like and why...I mean, the aesthetics are beyond great, but the truth is, I'd also want the set to perform at a level equal to the aesthetics (for my skill level and swing, etc).
[/quote]

I feel ya on this for sure.  This will be my only set out of too many to list purchased this way.  The beauty of it is, think of what you liked about every iron youíve ever hit.  Let them know and it will be done that way.  
[quote name='wmblake2000' timestamp='1527101365' post='17400660']
[quote name='FairwayFred' timestamp='1527078365' post='17398506']
[quote name='bjp1' timestamp='1526928824' post='17389584']
Patrick/Ari, would you mind commenting on the design characteristics of the heads in this pic?  I'm trying to understand what each design accomplished for a given player (trajectory, helps with certain type of miss tendencies, etc.).  This was done in an earlier post with 3 of the designs, but was hoping to see comments on others you've done.


[/quote]

Starting top left and going down,

1.  Reverse muscle.  Highest COG.  Lowest ball flight.

2.  Diamond back.  High COG but not as high as Reverse.  Lots of weight centered behind sweet spot.  Extra solid feel.  

3.  Toe weighted.  Lower COG (can modify COG higher or lower) weight moved out to toe.  Slight fade bias.

4.  Half diamond.  Low to mid COG.  Lots of weight behind sweet spot.

Column on the right starting at the top and going down.

5.  Mid COG Double muscle.  Can also be made high COG or low COG.  Low COG version has a little heel/toe weighting.

6.  Classic muscle.  Mid COG, more standard weighted blade design.

7.  Heel weighted. Low/mid COG.  Weight shifted to the heel.  Slight draw bias.

8.  Low COG, Heel/Toe weighted muscle.  Higher ball flight and extra forgiveness in a muscle back design.
[/quote]

That's really helpful.  One of the things about getting clubs built is I finally need to really understand what I like and why...I mean, the aesthetics are beyond great, but the truth is, I'd also want the set to perform at a level equal to the aesthetics (for my skill level and swing, etc).
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