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Tiger hitting DeChambeau's single length iron at Riviera


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#31 Jagpilotohio

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:09 PM

View PostRapatt95, on 13 February 2018 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 13 February 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 13 February 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 13 February 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

I often wonder how good  BDC could have been if he had just played regular clubs. He’s obviously quite talented.

I think his obsession with plane and doing equipment “his way” has really harmed his potential. My 2 cents.

Man, that is a tough stance.  He's still quite young and not many golfers have the resume Bryson has let alone golfers his age.

Yeah.  I suppose.  Im being serious though. I  honestly think all the time and energy trying to do something that he’s  convinced himself is scientifically a good idea but in actual practice is not, has stunted his development as a golfer.  I really think he’d probably be better if he had just accepted traditional equipment and focused all his talent on mastering it for the last 5 or 6 years.

The experimentation with all the putters, the giant grips, the incredibly upright lie angles. I know he firmly believes in what he’s doing, but sometimes very smart people are simply wrong and very stubborn about it.

Just throwing out an opinion.  I think his conviction that “everyone else is doing it wrong and I’m going to prove it” is a serious mistake and also a display of his rather sizable ego. Ties in a little bit to his nasty tantrum at Pebble on the other thread.
Not that I agree or disagree, but investing a huge amount of time/effort/money into something like he has builds an enormous reluctance to change. I’m sure most everyone here has heard of the sunk cost fallacy.

On the other hand, we’re talking about a US AM champ, NCAA champ, and PGA Tour winner. If things click, the kid could go on a heck of a run I bet

Oh, I totally agree at this point he’s not changing anything.  No turning back now.   It’s full steam ahead, damn the torpedoes.

Just tossing it out there for consideration.  I’ve thought this for a long time, just never posted it anywhere. His record is great, I don’t mean to suggest  any different.  I just think he actually could have been MORE impressive.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:21 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 13 February 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

View PostRapatt95, on 13 February 2018 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 13 February 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 13 February 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 13 February 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

I often wonder how good  BDC could have been if he had just played regular clubs. He's obviously quite talented.

I think his obsession with plane and doing equipment "his way" has really harmed his potential. My 2 cents.

Man, that is a tough stance.  He's still quite young and not many golfers have the resume Bryson has let alone golfers his age.

Yeah.  I suppose.  Im being serious though. I  honestly think all the time and energy trying to do something that he's  convinced himself is scientifically a good idea but in actual practice is not, has stunted his development as a golfer.  I really think he'd probably be better if he had just accepted traditional equipment and focused all his talent on mastering it for the last 5 or 6 years.

The experimentation with all the putters, the giant grips, the incredibly upright lie angles. I know he firmly believes in what he's doing, but sometimes very smart people are simply wrong and very stubborn about it.

Just throwing out an opinion.  I think his conviction that "everyone else is doing it wrong and I'm going to prove it" is a serious mistake and also a display of his rather sizable ego. Ties in a little bit to his nasty tantrum at Pebble on the other thread.
Not that I agree or disagree, but investing a huge amount of time/effort/money into something like he has builds an enormous reluctance to change. I'm sure most everyone here has heard of the sunk cost fallacy.

On the other hand, we're talking about a US AM champ, NCAA champ, and PGA Tour winner. If things click, the kid could go on a heck of a run I bet

Oh, I totally agree at this point he's not changing anything.  No turning back now.   It's full steam ahead, damn the torpedoes.

Just tossing it out there for consideration.  I've thought this for a long time, just never posted it anywhere. His record is great, I don't mean to suggest  any different.  I just think he actually could have been MORE impressive.

Jag - he's pot committed at this point.  For the record, I think you could very well be right - maybe BAD should have done things differently.  At this point its hard for me to say he's not on to something because of the level of success he's enjoyed thus far.  

He did have a pretty rough go of things last year before he blacked out on the back 9 at JD

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:34 AM

If Tigers goes one-length irons and wins a tournament, so help us... within a decade they would become the norm.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:49 AM

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View PostDavePelz4, on 13 February 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:

How long before we see the thread entitled..."Tiger moving to single length irons..."

And then TM comes out with a new product line and sales go through the ROOF.

The December 2018 GolfWRX/TM trip is 7 WRX'ers get fit for single length irons...you heard it here first...or 29th.

I'd like to put my name in the ring for being selected for that TM trip.  Is this where we enter?

Now that DP4 knows Jodi would likely show up you don't want to be in and have him first on a waiting list right behind you. ;-)

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:42 AM

Maybe Tiger needs a JumboMax XL grip on his driver.  Could it hurt?


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:59 AM

He is probably shocked how much better feeling the Nippon Modus is compared to Dynamic Gold
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:17 PM

View Postpcs11, on 14 February 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

He is probably shocked how much better feeling the Nippon Modus is compared to Dynamic Gold

My feeling on his opinion would be the opposite.  More like how does he play with these in there.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:27 PM

Tiger maybe in his own head after a not so great last tourney. Switching out shafts in driver seems... not like a huge deal, but kind of a knee jerk reaction. He played fine with the Tensei at world Hero, but now suddely shaft is an issue and needs to be switched out?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:29 PM

Tiger was so impressed with single length that he's going all in!........But just to get everybody on board, he's going to have each individual iron from every OEM. Just think of all the logo's that could be on his bag and shirt.......................and on top of that, with the new irons, he's going to win the full grand slam this year.............

Aw crap!..........the alarm clock just went off and I wasn't finished with that dream............ :scare2:

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:41 PM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 14 February 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Tiger maybe in his own head after a not so great last tourney. Switching out shafts in driver seems... not like a huge deal, but kind of a knee jerk reaction. He played fine with the Tensei at world Hero, but now suddely shaft is an issue and needs to be switched out?

Does shaft control face to path such that shaft #1 produces a minor push 10 yards off line and shaft #2 has you 20 yards off the fairway?

The fairways at the Hero was kindof like at sentry, a mile wide so just about everyone was driving the ball fairly well. If he wants to win more majors he understands he needs to be able to hit small fairways like Torrey Pines. It's always funny people trying to post on forums like Tiger doesn't understand the game and he doesn't need to switch equipment/shafts. I guarantee he didn't just base his decision on 1 tournament. He's still using a 20 year old putter for crying out loud. If he truly liked the shaft and thought it fit him then one tournament wouldn't have magically made him change his mind.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:52 PM

View PostFlogzero, on 14 February 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

View PostZ1ggy16, on 14 February 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Tiger maybe in his own head after a not so great last tourney. Switching out shafts in driver seems... not like a huge deal, but kind of a knee jerk reaction. He played fine with the Tensei at world Hero, but now suddely shaft is an issue and needs to be switched out?

Does shaft control face to path such that shaft #1 produces a minor push 10 yards off line and shaft #2 has you 20 yards off the fairway?

The fairways at the Hero was kindof like at sentry, a mile wide so just about everyone was driving the ball fairly well. If he wants to win more majors he understands he needs to be able to hit small fairways like Torrey Pines. It's always funny people trying to post on forums like Tiger doesn't understand the game and he doesn't need to switch equipment/shafts. I guarantee he didn't just base his decision on 1 tournament. He's still using a 20 year old putter for crying out loud. If he truly liked the shaft and thought it fit him then one tournament wouldn't have magically made him change his mind.
But when he got fit into the Tensei... I would assume it "fit" him just fine, that his numbers were fairly optimal and that his dispersion was good. This is Tiger we are talking about, a guy who can tell if a grip has some air bubbles in it or if the CG of his iron just doesn't feel right. He's SUPER particular about his clubs. He wouldn't, IMO, put a shaft into play if it was a bad fit. Blaming his shaft for missing fairways is a lame excuse, and to ME, a switch right after he had the worst FIR performance in his life says ithat's what he is doing.

He sticks with the same putter because it works. He uses the same heads because they work. He's changing shafts because in his opinion the shaft doesn't work. If the Ozik was so good a few years back... why switch out of it? He clearly shows the ability to play the same gear for years on end. Probably because he blamed it for poor drives.... Tiger has always been a phenomenal putter, so would he switch?
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:55 PM

View Postmackepa, on 13 February 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

I bet he can't hit a cut with it.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:02 PM

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:26 PM

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