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#1 Nick mrkonja

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:22 PM

If Ben Hogan could come back to life for one day  what  modern day golf clubs would he choose to play? And would he have a chance of winning a tour event?


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:46 PM

PXG. He would have a decent chance at an opposite field event.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:58 PM

Titleist.  Hogan the company calling itself Hogan in know way sells clubs that are anyway related to the 1950 to 1980s Hogans.   I would almost bet he would never use a hybrid, and would have glued in xx flex shaft in his driver.  He would still play 6 degree flat golf clubs.   And the man himself said,  if he had it all to do over he would have played a surlyn ball as it is more consistent in the different types of weather than a balata or Urethane ball  of today.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:33 PM

If Hogan came back to life, he would kick the USGA in the teeth for that 2010 "Groove Rule" which has invalidated any of his preferred old clubs for use on tour.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:39 PM

View Postjustaman5, on 13 February 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

Titleist.  Hogan the company calling itself Hogan in know way sells clubs that are anyway related to the 1950 to 1980s Hogans.   I would almost bet he would never use a hybrid, and would have glued in xx flex shaft in his driver.  He would still play 6 degree flat golf clubs.   And the man himself said,  if he had it all to do over he would have played a surlyn ball as it is more consistent in the different types of weather than a balata or Urethane ball  of today.
Hogan would play what worked best. If that was hybrid so be it. He could not have commented on the modern urethane ball as he died in 1997.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:52 PM

Funny topic , an older guy at my club told me hogan would never use a trackman

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:56 PM

View PostAaronwilson_95, on 13 February 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

Funny topic , an older guy at my club told me hogan would never use a trackman

He could tell you how much the ball was spinning based on which groove he hit it on.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:00 PM

View PostAaronwilson_95, on 13 February 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

Funny topic , an older guy at my club told me hogan would never use a trackman
Hogan was a human trackman.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:24 PM

Mr Hogan would never miss a fairway off the world and need a hybrid to get a ball out.  He would hit the fairway and used a 1 iron.   IF you read his 1948 book. He played his driver at the very stiffest shaft that he could possibly find. Like a xx shaft.  He played each and every club on down as a little more flex. They said his sand wedge shaft you could wave it like a screen door.  And according to his distance listed. He could if he needed too. Pound a ball out there 300 yards.  Sam Snead could have done the same.  There are articles about how people would want to buy a match to his clubs from the Hogan Company.   They would return them in a week as unhitable   In 1990 or 91, When they had the Texas tournaments. I dont know their names now. But back then Mr Hogan was a member of Shady Oak.  Lanny Wadkins played with him a lot. The pro of Colonial had a replica driver.  They let some of the pros try to hit the ball.  I think they have tried to do this a few different times.  They averaged about a 40 yard loss on their drives and hit 50 yard right slices.  Or had to aim 50 yards left to slice it back in the fairway.  I believe one of those stories is on you tube.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:32 PM

If he came back for one day, hed struggle to compete in a four day PGA Tour event.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:38 PM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

If he came back for one day, he’d struggle to compete in a four day PGA Tour event.
Because he'd be like 100  years old
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:44 PM

View Postjustaman5, on 13 February 2018 - 08:24 PM, said:

Mr Hogan would never miss a fairway off the world and need a hybrid to get a ball out.  He would hit the fairway and used a 1 iron.   IF you read his 1948 book. He played his driver at the very stiffest shaft that he could possibly find. Like a xx shaft.  He played each and every club on down as a little more flex. They said his sand wedge shaft you could wave it like a screen door.  And according to his distance listed. He could if he needed too. Pound a ball out there 300 yards.  Sam Snead could have done the same.  There are articles about how people would want to buy a match to his clubs from the Hogan Company.   They would return them in a week as unhitable   In 1990 or 91, When they had the Texas tournaments. I dont know their names now. But back then Mr Hogan was a member of Shady Oak.  Lanny Wadkins played with him a lot. The pro of Colonial had a replica driver.  They let some of the pros try to hit the ball.  I think they have tried to do this a few different times.  They averaged about a 40 yard loss on their drives and hit 50 yard right slices.  Or had to aim 50 yards left to slice it back in the fairway.  I believe one of those stories is on you tube.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:27 PM

After he caught his breath from laughing at the size of the driver heads and pay checks, he would fire up a Chesterfield and open a Texas size can of whooopazzz!.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:27 PM

View Postaugustgolf, on 13 February 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

If he came back for one day, hed struggle to compete in a four day PGA Tour event.
Because he'd be like 100  years old
Not to mention, hed only be alive for one day... tournaments take four days... Am I the only one getting this?
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:59 AM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

View Postaugustgolf, on 13 February 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

If he came back for one day, hed struggle to compete in a four day PGA Tour event.
Because he'd be like 100  years old
Not to mention, hed only be alive for one day... tournaments take four days... Am I the only one getting this?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:26 AM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

View Postaugustgolf, on 13 February 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

If he came back for one day, he'd struggle to compete in a four day PGA Tour event.
Because he'd be like 100  years old
Not to mention, he'd only be alive for one day... tournaments take four days... Am I the only one getting this?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:18 AM

Ben Hogan will play Ben Hogan equipment.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:57 AM

He'd probably walk off after 9 holes "because it's taking too damn long" and "some jerk keeps shouting "Get in the hole!" or "Baba Booey!" after every shot, regardless of where I hit it".
Then throw his borrowed bag of stupid coloured 'woods' made of metal & carbon fibre, SGI irons and broomhandle putter in the nearest lake before climbing back into his time machine.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:00 AM

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If Ben Hogan could come back to life for one day  what  modern day golf clubs would he choose to play? And would he have a chance of winning a tour event?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:35 AM

Read 'The match' - by Mark Frost (yes, the same Mark Frost) Great book, I am on my 2nd time around with it. :-)

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:26 AM

View PostRBImGuy, on 14 February 2018 - 05:00 AM, said:

View PostNick mrkonja, on 13 February 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

If Ben Hogan could come back to life for one day  what  modern day golf clubs would he choose to play? And would he have a chance of winning a tour event?

85 year olds dont do well on tour

Hogan was 84 when he died - wouldn't give a darn about what how some old bastxxx would have fared.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 08:33 AM

True story as told to me by an older pga teacher. Supposedly hogan and moe Norman player somewhere one morning ( he said but i forgot which club ) and after the round were asked to play 18 more with some members.  They declined citing we hate to play 36 and hit out of our own divots .  Wtf?  Thats either the greatest excuse to get out of playing with some hacks or they were the most arrogant sobs ever.  LOl.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:35 AM

View Postjustaman5, on 13 February 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

Titleist.  Hogan the company calling itself Hogan in know way sells clubs that are anyway related to the 1950 to 1980s Hogans.   I would almost bet he would never use a hybrid, and would have glued in xx flex shaft in his driver.  He would still play 6 degree flat golf clubs.   And the man himself said,  if he had it all to do over he would have played a surlyn ball as it is more consistent in the different types of weather than a balata or Urethane ball  of today.

There is no way Mr. Hogan would play a Surlyn golf ball.  He was a shot maker and the Surlyn ball is too hard of feel and cannot control the shape of the shot as well as eurathane.  Mr. Hogan would certainly play forged blades.  I would say Miura 1957 Baby Blades, forged wedges, center shafted blade styled putter.  I wouldn't even venture to guess the woods he'd play.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:56 AM

There must be some of his old clubs knocking around. Back for one day, he would use his own stuff.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:45 PM

View PostRobotDoctor, on 14 February 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

View Postjustaman5, on 13 February 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

Titleist.  Hogan the company calling itself Hogan in know way sells clubs that are anyway related to the 1950 to 1980s Hogans.   I would almost bet he would never use a hybrid, and would have glued in xx flex shaft in his driver.  He would still play 6 degree flat golf clubs.   And the man himself said,  if he had it all to do over he would have played a surlyn ball as it is more consistent in the different types of weather than a balata or Urethane ball  of today.

There is no way Mr. Hogan would play a Surlyn golf ball.  He was a shot maker and the Surlyn ball is too hard of feel and cannot control the shape of the shot as well as eurathane.  Mr. Hogan would certainly play forged blades.  I would say Miura 1957 Baby Blades, forged wedges, center shafted blade styled putter.  I wouldn't even venture to guess the woods he'd play.



In at least two Hogan biographies, the authors state that Ben Hogan once told Deane Beaman that if he were playing golf in modern times, he would play a surlyn covered ball.  I don't know if that's true, but that's what in the books.  I do think that Hogan was much less narrow minded or traditionalist than some people assume.  After all, he did design the Radial irons, highly contoured fairway wood soles and "speed slots" in woods. Interesting to think about.  But, he would have been able to compete.  He would have adjusted to the equipment and the way the game is played and done well. I think the transition from hickory to steel was at least as difficult as steel to graphite, ect., and he coped with that change pretty successfully.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:00 PM

Y'all are getting all nostalgic and not thinking clearly.  Hogan owned a golf equipment company that made woods, irons and balls.  He was all about tech and innovation..  There are stories about crazy prototype clubs at the Hogan factory that the USGA wouldn't approve.  Yes Hogan said he would play surlyn, but that was before urethane balls were introduced, and Hogan was about selling his surlyn covered balls, with his name on the cover,  when he made the statement.  

Hogan did, what Hogan needed to do to gain an advantage over the competition, and that would include the best technology available to win.  

So probably a modern blade or players cavity, a modern low spin driver with a super exotic low spin shaft, and some fairways.  The one thing you have to think about is the putter, Hogan didn't like the look a gimmicky putting styles, but who knows, he was a good putter before the accident.  But don't think for a minute he would't be doing a LOT of testing with Trackman and getting totally fit, Hogan loved to experiment and get his equipment just right. Hogan was a club ho for sure.

As for the brand?  Whomever paid him the most, unless he still owned his own company.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:30 PM

View Postmyurick2, on 14 February 2018 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostRobotDoctor, on 14 February 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

View Postjustaman5, on 13 February 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

Titleist.  Hogan the company calling itself Hogan in know way sells clubs that are anyway related to the 1950 to 1980s Hogans.   I would almost bet he would never use a hybrid, and would have glued in xx flex shaft in his driver.  He would still play 6 degree flat golf clubs.   And the man himself said,  if he had it all to do over he would have played a surlyn ball as it is more consistent in the different types of weather than a balata or Urethane ball  of today.

There is no way Mr. Hogan would play a Surlyn golf ball.  He was a shot maker and the Surlyn ball is too hard of feel and cannot control the shape of the shot as well as eurathane.  Mr. Hogan would certainly play forged blades.  I would say Miura 1957 Baby Blades, forged wedges, center shafted blade styled putter.  I wouldn't even venture to guess the woods he'd play.


In at least two Hogan biographies, the authors state that Ben Hogan once told Deane Beaman that if he were playing golf in modern times, he would play a surlyn covered ball.  I don't know if that's true, but that's what in the books.  I do think that Hogan was much less narrow minded or traditionalist than some people assume.  After all, he did design the Radial irons, highly contoured fairway wood soles and "speed slots" in woods. Interesting to think about.  But, he would have been able to compete.  He would have adjusted to the equipment and the way the game is played and done well. I think the transition from hickory to steel was at least as difficult as steel to graphite, ect., and he coped with that change pretty successfully.

Modern times.  Hmmmm.  That was over 20 years ago.  Times and balls have changed quite a bit from the late 90s.  At the time Mr. Hogan said this the alternative to a premium ball was Balata.  Anyone playing this kind of ball understands the limitations of the ball.  Not every ball out of the box during Mr. Hogan's time was actually round although modern manufacturing from the 70s, 80s and 90s this really wasn't an issue as all balata balls were round.  The problem is that balata balls did not stay round.  I used to game them when I was a single digit handcap to scratch golfer.  I would go through 4 to 6 balls a round due to either hitting them out of round or scuffing the cover significantly.

My point, yet again (referencing another pointless thread), is based on the original question .... "If Ben Hogan could come back to life for one day  what  modern day golf clubs would he choose to play? ..."

If Mr. Hogan had a choice between Surlyn and Elastomer what would he choose.  His statement was based on the Surlyn golf ball remaining round while Balata golf balls did not.  Now fast forward to today, Elastomer balls produce higher spin and control and the balls remain round.  The Titleist Professional, the first foray of Titleist into the Elastomer realm.  The Professional was still a wound ball and came out a couple of years after Mr. Hogan's passing.  The ProV1 came out in late 2000.  Would Mr. Hogan prefer a Surlyn golf ball over a modern day Elastomer ball?  His comment on Surlyn was the integrity of the shape of the ball, hole after hole compared to the Balata balls at the time.  The modern Elastomer ball wasn't even in the equation when he made the comment.  What would Mr. Hogan choose?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:32 PM

View PostNick mrkonja, on 13 February 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

If Ben Hogan could come back to life for one day  what  modern day golf clubs would he choose to play? And would he have a chance of winning a tour event?

he would be using the same clubs as deChambeau and getting better results
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:39 PM

View PostMan_O_War, on 14 February 2018 - 04:32 PM, said:

View PostNick mrkonja, on 13 February 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

If Ben Hogan could come back to life for one day  what  modern day golf clubs would he choose to play? And would he have a chance of winning a tour event?

he would be using the same clubs hat as deChambeau and getting better results
  Fixed that for ya.  :)
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Vokey 58 M grind
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:40 PM

View PostiBanesto, on 14 February 2018 - 04:18 AM, said:

Ben Hogan will play Ben Hogan equipment.

Yep....but not without finding the current owners of Ben Hogan Equipment Co. and giving them a lecture about something.

(which they would take while meekly bobbing their collective heads and agreeing with Mr. Hogan)

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