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Spieth, Thomas and Scott... All stay with Titleist?


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#1 T-W

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:20 PM

Given Titleist's track record of sponsoring guys when they first come out and them moving on to greener pastures once the player gets a certain amount of notoriety (Tiger, Mickelson, Sergio, Rory, just to name a few) does anyone think that JT, Spieth and Adam Scott will all be Titleist staffers, say, 5 years from now?

These three seem to be the center of Titleist's marketing over the last couple of years, so it will be interesting to see if all three remain for the long haul.  My thoughts...

JT- I think he stays, even if another OEM threw the bank at him (which they prob will come contract time).  Played Titleist since he was a kid and his dad has a long term relationship with them as well, I think.

Scott- Kind of a modern-day Davis Love in terms of marketability.  Scott's swing, bag make-up, and traditional dress makes him appeal to Titleist's typical customer.  He stays.

Spieth- I think Spieth is gone sooner or later.  I realize he too has had a long term relationship with Titleist, going back to his college and junior days. But his Under Armour deal has to be worth a kings ransom.  It may be attractive to him to jump ship for clubs and be the center of a campaign, rather than sharing the spotlight.  

What do you all think???!


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:31 PM

I think you've got it backwards with Spieth. The UA deal is precisely the thing which allows him not to need a large endorsement deal from a club OEM. So there's no reason for him to go anywhere. He can take less from Titleist and play what he wants.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM

View Postjll62, on 13 February 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

I think you've got it backwards with Spieth. The UA deal is precisely the thing which allows him not to need a large endorsement deal from a club OEM. So there's no reason for him to go anywhere. He can take less from Titleist and play what he wants.

Spot on.  Who beside Nike could pay him the same ?

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:10 PM

These huge apparel contracts are a game changer in relation to how player contracts work. I'd say the money has definitely shifted to huge apparel deals and lesser club deals. Nike and Under Armour offering up these huge deals are really starting to affect the way that players are approaching their clubs. I can't remember ever seeing this many mixed bags on Tour. Before a couple of years ago, players like Tommy Fleetwood, Patrick Reed, Gary Woodland, etc playing mixed bags of clubs that just work for them wouldn't happen because it just wasn't feasible. It really makes following player WITBs fun.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:13 PM

I think all 3 stay put.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

Its only a matter of time before JT signs with Taylormade or Callaway. Hes not going to get a big clothing deal like Spieth has with UA, so hell get lured by a lucrative equipment contract. Taylormade has to be drooling over the possibility of JT using one of their drivers.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:23 PM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 13 February 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

It's only a matter of time before JT signs with Taylormade or Callaway. He's not going to get a big clothing deal like Spieth has with UA, so he'll get lured by a lucrative equipment contract. Taylormade has to be drooling over the possibility of JT using one of their drivers.

Realize it's probably nowhere near the same level of Spieth's UA deal...but Thomas probably does ok with the Polo deal, wouldn't you think?

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:28 PM

I don't think any would leave but if I had to pick 1 I'd actually pick Scott, although I don't think he'd be given the opportunity to leave, ie... nobody is going to want to pay him more than he gets out of Titleist. Scott could get poached to leave if he really thought using new clubs could up his game.

JT and Speith should not move... They've been winning with that gear. Change and risk losing more money in the long term due to possibly not playing as well.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:36 PM

All long time Titleist players and the relationships run deeper than the money. All have proven their skill with equipment that some say is lacking behind on the tech side. Scott being such a long time player makes me think he will stick with them to the end of his career. JT and Jordan are the basis of Titleist marketing, they will stay long term as well.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:55 PM

View Posttnrts345, on 13 February 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

All long time Titleist players and the relationships run deeper than the money. All have proven their skill with equipment that some say is lacking behind on the tech side. Scott being such a long time player makes me think he will stick with them to the end of his career. JT and Jordan are the basis of Titleist marketing, they will stay long term as well.

Completely agree with this.  If Adam Scott hasn't switched by this point in his career, I don't think he will as long as he's competitive.  JT and Jordan epitomize what Titleist is as a brand.  Jordan definitely has the financial flexibility to play whatever brand he wants.  As for JT, Golf Digest published in interview they did with him back in August, where he really had a lot of praise for Titleist.  Obviously your going to say positive things about your current sponsor, but he really seemed to credit their staff as being a big source of his success.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:10 PM

View Postbladehunter, on 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

View Postjll62, on 13 February 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

I think you've got it backwards with Spieth. The UA deal is precisely the thing which allows him not to need a large endorsement deal from a club OEM. So there's no reason for him to go anywhere. He can take less from Titleist and play what he wants.

Spot on.  Who beside Nike could pay him the same ?

Exactly. Could I see him leaving Titleist at some point in the (perhaps distant) future? Sure, but I don't think it will ever be about endorsement dollars for him.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:15 PM

JT is the only one that could/should leave. I doubt Polo money is anywhere near UA/Nike/Adidas money. Callaway and Taylormade have the dough that could fill that void for him. Another issue with JT is his personality just does not quite seem as marketable as some of the other young guns.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

View Posttnrts345, on 13 February 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

All long time Titleist players and the relationships run deeper than the money. All have proven their skill with equipment that some say is lacking behind on the tech side. Scott being such a long time player makes me think he will stick with them to the end of his career. JT and Jordan are the basis of Titleist marketing, they will stay long term as well.

I see Scott as he is getting older trying to cash a big endorsement deal tonset himself up. Of all Id expect him to go elsewhere

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:24 PM

Someone would have to offer out of this world money. I don’t think club manufacturers will be offering mega deals in the future
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:41 PM

As has been said many times in this thread, I just don't see these guys leaving. There's just too much money to get from other endorsements these days that the clubs have become so much more of a "play what you want or what works" type of thing. There's also the fact that JT, who I would suspect probably has the smallest endorsement amounts (for now), won more money than he will probably ever spend on the course on top of those "small" endorsement dollars.

Given these guys have more money in the bank than they know what to do with, playing what got them there seems like the best course of action for them at this point and it's pretty obvious that Titleist is what works.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:44 PM

Why would any of them go to Taylormade? Already bloated with stars that is amazing they can pay all of them given they were bought for much less than Titleist was. Stay with a company where you are the big fish (JT and Jordan, Adam kind of like DLIII hanging on). Also a company that is bolstered by the ball sales...

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:18 PM

Titleist has a long legacy of players using their equipment that “would never leave”..........
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:24 PM

Don't see Jordan or Scott leaving. Scott plays classic blades so no way he switching. Spieth has said numerous times he won't switch.

Thomas I could definitely see switch however don't expect it. He switches to newer models immediately which makes me think he's not too worried.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:44 PM

I could see Spieth leaving for an equipment company that has longer product cycles than Titleist. That guy switches clubs like Ron Jeremy switches hair styles.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:48 PM

JT to PXG in '19. Mark it.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:12 PM

Does anyone know when any of these contracts come up? That way we can potentially see if any of these predictions come true

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:13 PM

View PostLlortamaisey, on 13 February 2018 - 08:44 PM, said:

I could see Spieth leaving for an equipment company that has longer product cycles than Titleist. That guy switches clubs like Ron Jeremy switches hair styles.

Longer than Titleist? No other oem has that other than maybe PING. No way that PING pays what spieth is worth.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:33 PM

View PostT-W, on 13 February 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostLlortamaisey, on 13 February 2018 - 08:44 PM, said:

I could see Spieth leaving for an equipment company that has longer product cycles than Titleist. That guy switches clubs like Ron Jeremy switches hair styles.

Longer than Titleist? No other oem has that other than maybe PING. No way that PING pays what spieth is worth.

Ping is 18 months now. Titleist is still 24 months. Maybe PXG? I feel like most of their stuff has been out for almost 3 years. All I know is that if Spieth switches companies, it’s going to take him a minimum of 2 years to switch his bag over.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:21 PM

View PostWidespreadPanic, on 13 February 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:

JT to PXG in '19. Mark it.

LOL absolutely zero chance of this happening
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:39 PM

Jordan Spieth to Ben Hogan Golf clubs in 2019.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:03 AM

Uniqlo + Mercedes + career earnings = Titleist for Scott's PGA career.

I'd agree with others that Thomas is the likely one to go, he doesn't cut the same non-golf endorsement shadow the other two do. That said, keep having $10 mil late-summer Sundays every few years and maybe that won't matter :)

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:07 AM

JT isn't going anywhere. He has stated the best bit of advice he had when he turned pro was to play what he knows with equipment. Trying to get used to new equipment has set many new pro's back. JT left money on the table, he is going to play what he knows, and isn't going to stop any momentum trying to get used to new sticks. If he ever makes a switch it won't be until he is into his 30's or 40's .

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:21 AM

View PostDoc420, on 14 February 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

JT isn't going anywhere. He has stated the best bit of advice he had when he turned pro was to play what he knows with equipment. Trying to get used to new equipment has set many new pro's back. JT left money on the table, he is going to play what he knows, and isn't going to stop any momentum trying to get used to new sticks. If he ever makes a switch it won't be until he is into his 30's or 40's .
Now I'm thinking about Spieth and JT in there 40's - I don't like it. By then XXIO could be running things - who which by the way are putting  lot of money into US advertising. They're included in Golf Magazine's 2018 gear test and have a huge banner right up front at my local golf store.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:27 AM

Looking at them each individually, I can make a stronger case for Spieth and Scott staying than I can for Thomas.

Scott - All Titleist everything since his amateur career. Being with a brand for so long tends to suggest that he likes what he has and he has had those 680's in the bag for ever. Added to that, he is (to my huge disappointment) not the player that he was. I can't imagine that Taylor Made or Callaway would be waving that much money in his face to make him switch anymore.

Spieth - The UA deal has him, his children and his grandchildren set for life. The only thing that he seems to change quickly is his golf ball and Titleist doesn't seem to be overly bothered by that. I can't imagine that Taylor Made would be happy if he was still using an SLDR or R15.

Thomas - Seems to have been Titleist forever, his dad seems to have been the same. There is some brand loyalty there but how loyal is any Tour Pro these days. I hope that he sticks with Titleist but he is the one who I would be least certain about.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:18 PM

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Taylormade has to be drooling over the possibility of JT using one of their drivers.

Yeah, but how is he gonna hit that draw off the tee?

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