The TaylorMade Tour Burner Irons feature burner distance with tour playability.
* Thin and fast 2.2 millimeter face for high COR
* New multi-Functional sole that combines low center of gravity with the exceptional playability of a thin sole
* Medium top-line and offset for excellent playability
* Inverted cone technology for longer distance on off center hits
Went to the local golf shop to look at the Taylormade R7 Irons. Sales person said they were being replaced by the tour burner irons, and he showed me a set he just got in.
I hit the 7 iron with the 105 steel stiff, in the golf simulator. 81 mph swing, I was hitting the 7i about 174 yds. Quite a difference from my Mizuno 67 7iron, which I hit about 160 yds.
What I was looking for in a new set was height. And I got plenty with the tour burner irons. Not sure if I want the added distance. I also noticed 80% of my shots were roughly 9 yds left of pin. I thought it was me until I went on Ebay, and a guy on there was selling his tour burner irons because most of his shots were going too far left.
I am relegated to playing maybe twice a month, so I was looking for a friendlier set of sticks than my Mizunos. I like the tour burner irons, they are solid at impact and feel effortless. Just not sure I can score well with the added distance. Would like to try them first on the golf course before making a purchase.
Was fitted this afternoon after ditching work a few hours early -- I've been meaning to get my fitting for a long time now and was excited to hear after paying the pro that what I suspected I was (+1 lenght, 1 degree up) I was. Grrrrr. But the good part about the fitting was I rocked through the following clubs ad nauseum because he was trying to make a sale. The net result was I could really do a solid compare.
My specs:
6'4'' - strong
fast/medium fast swing (not measured)
18 handicap at the moment, going down...
Currently hitting:
Mizuno MX-23, MP-30 combo set (3-6 MXs: 7-P MPs)
Demo'd during fitting:
Ping G10
Ping i10
TP Tour Burner
Mizuno MX-19
Callaway FT (08' Fusion)
Cleveland CG Red
All in all, I knew I wanted a slightly offset - not heavily toe thick - cavity backed game improvement iron. As it stands, I made a tough choice a while back when buying my combo irons, and I just can't hit the 7-P MP-30s as well as I should. It's a sign when you hit the 5 iron better (and more confidently) than the 9 iron. I mentioned to the pro that I had hit and was interested in the Srixon i 506 (loved em) Macgregor MT Mid, Ping G10, Cleveland CG Red, and Mizuno MX-19. Turned out they didn't carry the Srixon or Macgregor, and they had some story as to why (they don't sell...not good in their opinion anyway...blah blah blah). So after breaking down my research against what they had to suggest I start doing swing comparisons, and MAN, I was very surprised at how well the new Burner irons worked for me. I was getting a solid combination of confidence, feel, distance, response, forgiveness, and consistency. Those were the factors I was looking for out of my next set. The launch angle and trajectory was not so high as the MX-19s or the Clevelands, which have a rather thicker toe and heel weighting and size. The Ping G10 was DEFINITELY trumped by the i10, which I had not really even been considering. Little did I realize that the back thickness of the i10 was actually medium whereas the G10 is thick and large. In other words, the G10 was more along the lines of hitting the CG or the MX-23, although just slightly different feel -- results were similar in ball flight and distance. After running through many cycles or the clubs I realized I was down to the i10 vs the Burners. I really feel like these clubs are VERY similar. In the end however I believe the Burner wins out at least for me because of the factors mentioned above -- confidence, feel, distance, response, forgiveness, and consistency. None of the other clubs gave me the best match of each of these across the board as well as the Burners. The i10 was close but not quite as consistent for me. And the feel of the TM casting was just a bit better to me than the Ping casting process....at least that's what I attributed the "feel" mostly to on perfect hits. All in all, I went in thinking I wanted to stick to a forged club or at least go Mizuno MX-19. In the end I really realized what a great club the Burner is. It's designed to replace the R7 (or so I was told) and that seems to make sense. I was told it will not directly replace per say the R7 TP model...they are slightly different enough to constitute a slightly different line.
Now for my disclaimer. If I had the money, I would probably get the new Callaway FT set. IMO, these are weight balance SO FRIGGIN MONEY for my swing that they are perfect. The ball just jumps off the club so well that its amazing. But it's a $1000 set and I'm looking to spend no more than $500, so there you go.
Anyone wanna buy a +1, 2 degree upright MX23/MP30 combo set? Still in great condition and hitting well for the right golfer!
Got a good deal on Ebay for the Tour Burner Irons, 4-AW, 105 steel stiff. Hated to sell the Miz 67 irons, they are so pretty to look at. But, only playing two rounds a month, no time to practice, and tired of my 7 iron coming in low to the green like a hot three iron, I'm thinking my blade days are over.
I've only hit the burner irons indoors (see my other post above), but I really like the feel. Love the way they sit to the ball, doesn't scream max improvement club ,and its easy on the eyes without looking like a shovel. My swing felt effortless and smooth.
Hopefully, I will have them on the course by this weekend.
got mine about a two months ago. was fitted (3deg up and +1in, x-flex stock steel shaft). anyway, i have nothing but praise for these clubs. i have the (4-pw) and they are long and forgiving. i realize they are longer than standard and the lofts are stonger but man are they nice. i can work them reasonably well and they work on a variety of lies. the bottom line is how easy to me they are to hit. when i first got them i was hitting them toward the heel due to my new shaft length, no matter though as i was still hitting a sweet draw all over the flag, with little or no distance loss. they are certainly higher ball flighted than blades but they word well in the wind.
bottom line for me is: great clubs for this scratch golfer who does not practice much anymore. i have shot the same scores as always, in fact, a little lower lately now that i can really hit my long irons well again.
looks are fine for me, i can get used to anything when the ball is going where i want it.
After playing with MP 14 and MP33 for long time I decided that it is time to try something more forgiving... and just got over 40yo....
I demoed, X20 Tour, MP57, R7TP, AP1 and 2, Cobra and Burner Tour...
Out of all those clubs X20 and Burner where easiest to hit and most forgiving of bunch.
I am happy that I bought set of Burner® because they are soooo easy to hit and very forgiving.
Feel is very very good considering it is CB and cast club. At address they look much better then x20 tour, not that big at all.
Just yesterday on the last hole, par 3 155 to flag I hit 8i and immediately I thought "oh #hit" mishit, only to see ball sailing pin high 6 meters right.
The only thing, I hit them same distance as my MP33 (TT S300) ??????
Highly recommended if you don't have enough time to practice anymore...
These clubs are the REAL DEAL.......they are long( I have regained the 1 club distance that I had lost to my playing partners). They are forgiving (more so than my previous I 701/506 combo set). They have great feel for a cast club....the thin face technology works.
The stock stiff seel shaft works great for me and I have never hit such high,long shots that just drop and stop.
lookin to get new irons this christmas. i dont know my handiecap never figured it out but i shoot round the low 90's. i have whole set of golden bears that came in a package driver putter bag and all. ive already replaced the driver with a TM burner and a 3 wood with a callaway X now i am lookin to replace my irons and considering thies the callaway x-20 or 22 mabey or the TM r7's. is there a spec that measures the size of the club face, that i can look for? my golden bear club face is bout the right size and mabey could be smaller. but when i look at me dads iron club head its huge.
After 6 weeks with these clubs I still can't find extra distance over my old MP33 with S300... WHY...
I bought TM Burner Irons with R105....
Regards
Peter
In Golf Digest it says that for a lower handicapper or better player, a stiffer shaft will yield longer distances than a less stiff shaft. It may explain your lack of distance gain with the Burner R105s.
I am a 9 handicap and was playing with an X-16 till last month when I upgraded my set to the TM Tour burner irons with the TM 2009 Burner metals.
Like many golfers in my handicap range, I was facing the dilemma of choosing between tour-prefered type irons that looked and felt great at address, but lacked the forgiveness of the larger game improvement clubs, and the likes of burner plus whose thick sole, topline and big offset put me off.
I came upon the TM tour burners and had a few swings with the 7 iron. Man was I impressed!! It was a perfect compromise between feel and forgiveness. I play in India at a tough 7100 yd Par-72 links-style course and have been consistently shooting in the late 70's and early 80's with this set. More than the improvemet in the distance, it is the feel-good-factor at address that just fills you up with positive thoughts, and THAT in my humble opinion does 80 % of the work in hitting that great shot.
Lavneet
There is something magical about these irons, it's not just one thing but the whole package. I purchased a 4-AW set with Project X 5.5 and have been extremely happy every since. The height is very consistent from club to club, I've never hit a 4 iron so high. With that in mind they also will deliver a wind piercing low knock down on command.
The muted feel others are talking about is a shock dampening characteristic purposely built into the club heads, kind of like TT SensiCore shaft insert. Muted yes, but I know where it hit on the face just from the feel. Has an unforgettable feel and wind cheating piercing flight.
These clubs replaced a set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scots I've had in my bag for years. The TM Tour Burners are better in every way and that says a lot. A nice compromise between game improvement irons and blades. Extremely easy to like. Do yourself a favor find a TM demo booth and try them out.
I have had mine for less than a month..I Eagled the first hole today on my way to a 69 have not shot that low in a few years. That was my second eagle on a par four since I swithed.I had played miura cavityback irons before.These are eaiser to hit and much more forgiving.The only change was I reshafted with KB tours.
Scott
i started playing golf about two years ago... beginning of last year i was an 18 handicap using nike slingshot irons that i got at a garage sale... about three weeks into last season i bought the tm tour burner irons on ebay and my current index is 7.6.. i love these irons that bring confidence at adress and added 10 to 15 yards more on each iron then i had previously with the nike slingshots... their great.
These irons are ridiculously long. I demoed a set at my range and off mats I was carrying the six iron 200 yards. I know its the jacked up lofts so perhaps thats not such a good thing as you approach the short irons.
Center strikes felt amazing and off center not so much but no real sting.
Set up looks great (minus the cavities) - not to much offset and a top line that I dont find visually offensive.
Discontinued so they currently sell for 500.00 - might have to buy a set.
I see that the stronger lofts are about 1/2 club stronger, but the additional length that most people are experiencing is much more than a 1/2 club. Also, loft changes at impact depending on a person's individual swing characteristics too. And, with everyone just loving to carry a bunch of wedges and approach wedges, the short shots are dealt with too.
If the TM Tour Burner irons are now being phased out, what has replaced them? Has the replacement not been released to the public yet? (Burner B irons?)
I absolutely love my old TM forged irons but I must say this Tour Burner iron has been the only iron in the past 8 years that has me thinking that this is something truly different and not just another reincarnated stamped piece of steel.
I really enjoyed the feel at impact and it's as if the ball just stuck to the clubface for a few seconds.
i love these, they are in between the burner irons and the tour preffered. I am about a 7 handicap. I have only been playing for a couple years so my ball contact is not perfect. These are great, I got them new from TM with the project x 5.5s. I will be using these for another year or so or until I can play blades. Which might be a long time. haha. I definately recommend them, dont buy the wedges, i dont even use their PW. Long irons are great, i use my 3 off the tee the majority of the time. The short irons spin very well, I can get them to check up easily. The distance between them is pretty good also.
9-145
8-155
7-170
6-180
5-190
4-200
3-200+
I was looking for a more forgiving iron although the RAC LTs I had which were great irons. The Tour Burners are the easiest irons I have hit and probably the best irons I have had. I have gained distance and am much more consistent with these irons.
As with the last set of TM irons off the rack the swing weights were dead on, very impressive.
I avoided the 2009s because I did not want extra long irons and am glad I got these instead. =) Maverick
I have been playing Tommy Armour Evo V-31 R.O. cast blade irons for the last four years and switched to the tour burners ~6 rounds ago. These irons have helped me shave a solid 5 strokes off my game. I was a little worried about the mild offset, but so far I have not had too much issue with unwanted draws, but I do find I am hitting them more in the middle of my stance compare to my old irons. The biggest change has been in the long iron forgiveness, long iron distance and short iron spin. My distances break down as follows (old clubs in brackets):
My only complaint is that I did not get the 3-PW set. I am playing at a 11 - 14 hcp this year and and loving these irons. If I can get my putting under control (35 per game so far) I should be dropping to single digits by the end of the year.
I found out that TM isn't shipping 2008 Tour Burner irons any longer. Therefore, obtaining them with Nippon or some other shaft is not an option any longer.
Have any of you switched out the shafts on your new TB irons? If so, did you find that the weight of the club heads pose any problems with using lighter shafts (100 gm) For example, the heads were too light and thus a club maker had to pour in a ton of weight into the hossel, etc.
I figure if I bought these irons from TM with the 85 ReAx Steel Shaft, they would try to use the proper weighted head that would work with the lighter shafts that were ordered.... yeah, yeah, I know..... wishful thinking.
In any event, I'm tinkerign with using either the #3 or #4 Tour Burner iron to replace my forged CB #3 iron. I'm fond of my current #4 iron, it's just the #3 that believe I can improve with today's design features.
Anyone else feel that taylormade is trying to pull off some devious marketing campaign on golfers that won’t know better by having clubs that are extremely stronger lofted. I hate how Taylormade markets these irons as the longest of all irons. This is because the specs of a 6 iron are the exact same length and loft of all other brands 5 iron. This is how the whole set works.
TM 4i is competions 3i, etc. This is why when I went to the store and wanted to compare three different sets, they gave each sets 6 iron. I was hitting 6 iron longer. I should have used the TM 7i to accurately compare. This is fine to those that know it, just don’t understand why this is done.
Can someone explain the actual benefits to the golfer. I can see the marketing side behind this for the company, but why would the golf want stronger lofts, any benefits. Just feel if I am used to hitting 8 iron 155 I’ll now switch to 9 iron. I was actually planning to get this set but after realizing this it has somewhat turned me off on the TM irons. I’d much rather them sell the 3i-PW with same lofts instead of the 4i-AW which is basically the same thing.
Also, on a side note, anyone have any other opinions on this club.
I am getting these to replace my x20 tours with Project x flighted 5.5. I didnt like the feel of the Cally's or the very low trajectory in 7-pw. May be my swing but oh well. Do these set up like the callys at adress or more like a player look I hope? I am receiving mine Monday with the standard Rifle 5.5.
The Tour Burner has the same lofts and lengths as Mizuno mx300. Why would the TM Tour Burners be considered "jacked up"? I know the new 09 Burner irons have enhanced lofts. Just a little confused because I am thinking of buying the 08 Tour Burner irons. Thanks.