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#1 defnotapro

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

Day 1:
Fly in
Escena and Indio lighted par 3

Day 2:
Classic Club
Mission Hills Dinah Shore Tournament Course

Day 3:
SilverRock
PGA West Stadium

Day 4:
Indian Wells Resort, Celebrity Course
Indian Wells CC Classic Course

Day 5:
Mission Hills CC Dye Challenge course


Let me know what you think


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:03 PM

Why are you leaving out La Quinta Mountain, PGA Norman and Shadow Ridge?
ps I assume you mean Indian Wells Players not Classic?

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:07 PM

 Chanceman, on 12 February 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Why are you leaving out La Quinta Mountain, PGA Norman and Shadow Ridge?
ps I assume you mean Indian Wells Players not Classic?

No, he has access to private clubs.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:29 PM

 defnotapro, on 12 February 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

Day 1:
Fly in
Escena and Indio lighted par 3

Day 2:
Classic Club
Mission Hills Dinah Shore Tournament Course

Day 3:
SilverRock
PGA West Stadium

Day 4:
Indian Wells Resort, Celebrity Course
Indian Wells CC Classic Course

Day 5:
Mission Hills CC Dye Challenge course


Let me know what you think

This is very well thought out and planned.    I'm sure people will have opinions on all of these, however, you really won't have a bad course on here.
-The classic course at Indian wells seems a bit easy
-Escena is probably the worst(but a good course) but I'm sure it's on here from a location standpoint.  

you could throw in the Tradition, Big horn, Stone Eagle, if you can get on.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:34 PM

Looks pretty damn good to me.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:41 PM

I love Palm Springs .  Place is amazing

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:10 AM

 bradski, on 12 February 2018 - 06:29 PM, said:

 defnotapro, on 12 February 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

Day 1:
Fly in
Escena and Indio lighted par 3

Day 2:
Classic Club
Mission Hills Dinah Shore Tournament Course

Day 3:
SilverRock
PGA West Stadium

Day 4:
Indian Wells Resort, Celebrity Course
Indian Wells CC Classic Course

Day 5:
Mission Hills CC Dye Challenge course


Let me know what you think

This is very well thought out and planned. I'm sure people will have opinions on all of these, however, you really won't have a bad course on here.
-The classic course at Indian wells seems a bit easy
-Escena is probably the worst(but a good course) but I'm sure it's on here from a location standpoint.  

you could throw in the Tradition, Big horn, Stone Eagle, if you can get on.


Would love to get on Stone Eagle. There are 5 of us and I am unsure if they could get us all on if I had my pro call. Probably would take a shot next time I'm out there with less people. 5 is just an odd number to try to get on.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:52 AM

Very good. Escena is the worst but still a decent course. If it was my group Id try to convince them to switch Dye challenge to day #1, dump Escena, and either play a repeat of our favorite on the last day or Classic Club or La Quinta Mountain or some other private if you can get on.

Edited by mjen43, 13 February 2018 - 01:54 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:39 AM

 mjen43, on 13 February 2018 - 01:52 AM, said:

Very good. Escena is the worst but still a decent course. If it was my group I'd try to convince them to switch Dye challenge to day #1, dump Escena, and either play a repeat of our favorite on the last day or Classic Club or La Quinta Mountain or some other private if you can get on.

I tried to keep that round close to the airport. Myself and one other are getting there early enough to catch a round. Everyone else is coming in either during our round or about the time we finish. Honestly didn't want to have to make a hurried trip across the valley and then turn right back around and come back. Is there a better or different course close to the airport you would suggest?

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:09 AM

I highly suggest Indian Canyons South Course. 10 minutes from the airport and lots of fun. Pretty easy and relaxed way to start the trip.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

 jarederco, on 13 February 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

I highly suggest Indian Canyons South Course. 10 minutes from the airport and lots of fun. Pretty easy and relaxed way to start the trip.

probably one of the easiest courses I have ever played and unless you are all 20+ handicap I would disagree(118 slope from the back tee's).   some of the best turf conditions I have played though.

Edited by bradski, 13 February 2018 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:01 PM

Classic club is easy to get to from the airport, though not the easiest course to start out with.

Escena then little par 3 to get used to turf is a good warm up.

Looks good
Have fun

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:03 PM

Desert Willow courses are close to classic club  Personally like firecliff better, holes have more character.

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 12:33 AM

i'd second Desert Willow Firecliff.

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 08:57 AM

Played SilverRock last week for the first time since the back nine renovation and hated it.

Previously, SilverRock was an all time favorite and a must play.

Now?  I won't be back.  Just a really awkward nine holes and number eleven is one of the worst green designs I've ever seen.

Twelve is now a par 5 with pretty much a blind second shot to a severely sloping green surrounded by very penal bunkers.

Fourteen is another converted par 4 that is now a par 5 that's like a tightrope with grass to another goofy green.

If that wasn't enough, eighteen is now the worst finishing hole ever.

Did I mention that I wouldn't be back?

On the other hand, Firecliff was outstanding as usual and we really liked the Greg Norman course at PGA West although the wind blew 30 MPH all day long which was disappointing.

We've never really had much interest in playing the Stadium course but like the Jack Nicklaus Tournament course a lot.

Played Escena for the first time this year and liked it better than Indian Canyon South although they're both a lot of fun.  Escena is much closer to the airport if that's a consideration however.

We also like Eagle Falls which is pretty cheap but always good.  It's not close to the airport but a pretty easy drive down I-10 although it'd be tuff to drive past Classic Club to get there as CC is really, really good.

Good luck - wish I was still out there!

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 11:28 AM

PGA West Norman is good, last trip with guys Norman was the favorite.

I remember silverrock 18 now lol.
Is eleven the par 3? Right hill with water left? Terrible green
Never played before remodel but the back nine is weird with blind tee shots and doglegs. Its still pretty and well maintained.



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Posted 24 February 2018 - 12:13 PM

 desaille, on 24 February 2018 - 11:28 AM, said:

PGA West Norman is good, last trip with guys Norman was the favorite.

I remember silverrock 18 now lol.
Is eleven the par 3? Right hill with water left? Terrible green
Never played before remodel but the back nine is weird with blind tee shots and doglegs. It's still pretty and well maintained.
Yep, that's it.  When we were there the pin was dead middle of the green which was playing 167.  I hit a really nice high 7 iron to the front portion of the green which bounced forward, released and ended up ten feet over the back.  I pitched up to about three feet short of the hole and it rolled back to my feet.  Pitched again to about ten feet past and two putted for an aggravating double.

My brother kind of chunked his tee shot from the next tee up and it landed about twenty feet short of the green, bounced and rolled up to three feet for birdie!  Oddly, it hadn't occurred to me that that was the way to play the hole to a middle pin placement.....

However, the conditions were fantastic and it was nearly impossible to tell where the old turf ended and the new stuff started so that wasn't the issue.  It did suck though to have played the course at least a dozen times previously and then to stand on the tee and again in the fairway and be totally bewildered as to where to hit it or what to do next.  

I always thought that even as a par 4 fourteen was a really difficult and awkward hole but now as a par 5 it's easier off of the tee but crazy from there on in.  The green is not very accepting to long irons or woods if you go for it in two and the layup area seemed to be really narrow with the canal left and a big swale that will funnel your ball into the waste area if you miss a little right.  I went for it with a seven wood and hit it pin high left about twenty yards or so from the green and hit what I thought was a pretty pitch to the front edge.  Nonetheless, the ball took off down the hill, across the green and into the rough on the far side.  Was able to save par but it sure seemed like an awful lot of work after having hit three pretty good shots to begin with.

Apparently everyone else was having similar difficulty figuring out where they were going as the pace of play ground to a halt on the back.  Carts were all over the place as you had to drive way up ahead on so many holes to see where you were going and to try and pick out an aim point.

The guys around the cart barn pretty much agreed that the back nine changes were a big disappointment and that they'd been hearing a lot of complaints.  We talked to a few other groups - some of which had played it before and a some that hadn't - and everybody we talked to agreed that they didn't like it much at all.

Not that this matters in the least but they've also fenced in the entire course now to keep the rams off.  While they probably were never all that great for the golf course we used to look forward to getting some pictures and mingling among the wildlife that wasn't rattlesnakes!

I totally agree about the Norman course and we're really looking forward to going back.  The wind turned the whole place into a nonstop dust storm though and sand was blowing out of the bunkers it was so bad.  Well conditioned and really a pretty golf course though and I thought the design was pretty cool as well.

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