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Aldila R.I.P alpha still going strong?


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#1 ukgolfer

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 02:47 PM

Went for a fitting today. Rogue sz 10.5 and for best results and feel with the aldila rip alpha 60.

This shaft is 6 years old or so.  Is it a fitters favourite ?     What newer shafts are closest to its profile?

Neil


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:16 PM

Itís still a very nice fairway finder for me, but I can also se that there is some significant distance loss compared to Tensei White for example. For me - that is 😊
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:19 PM

I still use one in my 3wd and itís a staple

Matter of fact I have a Rip alpha 105s hybrid shaft too in my 2hy

Been toying with the idea of putting a 105s in my driving iron (3/20į)

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 05:57 PM

The Alpha was a great shaft for it's time, for me it was a little inconsistent in the way it kicked, but it was a tight, accurate shaft.  I would say the Tour Green in TX is similar.  It's kind of a mix between the RIP Alpha and the old Green NV.  I use Green TX in my hybrids and they are long, lower launching and very accurate.  The Green seems to be a more refined RIP Alpha.

Aldila has some cool stuff out there but go for the tour issue or TX stuff when you can, the quality seems to be much higher.

I have all Aldila for my Graphite shafts now, a Synergy Black Proto (Which is the same profile as "The Phene'd" from 2 years ago) in my driver, a X-Torsion Green Mamba which is just an incredible mid launch low spin shaft, then the Tour Green in my hybrids.

MRC shafts may be a bit more refined, but under Mitsubishi ownership Aldila seems to be more like their experimental wing, and their new stuff is looking really good.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:16 PM

Still going strong. Always played one in my 910D2, and just bought one to put in my EPIC SZ. For me, always a consistent controllable shaft. I haven't taken the RIP in the SZ to the course yet (we just had a foot of snow), but it felt great at the heated range.


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:59 PM

I had them in my 910s up until this winter, now I have them in my new 915s.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:18 PM

Love it. Really love it in the fairway metals
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:33 PM

Its a great shaft.  I have it in my backup 913 3 wood and its a decent bomber.  You can find them for cheap too!

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:20 AM

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:01 AM

View Postukgolfer, on 10 February 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

Went for a fitting today. Rogue sz 10.5 and for best results and feel with the aldila rip alpha 60.

This shaft is 6 years old or so.  Is it a fitters favourite ? What newer shafts are closest to its profile?

Neil

It's a fairly unique profile.  It was one of those shafts that people either loved or hated and popular for certain types of swings.

Not too many others like it that I can think of off hand, but if I had to say, maybe the Rogue IO is one of the closer more modern matches.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:59 AM

The newest most expensive shaft in the game will not outperform an RIP Alpha for me and my swing.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:04 PM

View PostStuart G., on 13 February 2018 - 04:01 AM, said:

View Postukgolfer, on 10 February 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

Went for a fitting today. Rogue sz 10.5 and for best results and feel with the aldila rip alpha 60.

This shaft is 6 years old or so.  Is it a fitters favourite ?     What newer shafts are closest to its profile?

Neil

It's a fairly unique profile.  It was one of those shafts that people either loved or hated and popular for certain types of swings.

Not too many others like it that I can think of off hand, but if I had to say, maybe the Rogue IO is one of the closer more modern matches.

What is the original Alpha profile? Iíve always loved the shaft just trying to figure out why. Thanks!

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:38 PM

Just fairly stiff throughout the full profile.  It feels like it can handle anything you can throw at it.   But on the other hand, to some that also means 'harsh' or 'stout' feeling.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:57 PM

I gamed the RIP Alpha 70 until mid last season when I got a deal on a TP6HDe. I tried the RIP against the DI, MJ, BB, Veylix, Rogue I/O and probably 3 other shafts but the RIP just worked! Found fairways, launched right, and spun better than anything else I could get my hands on and certainly for the price!
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:17 PM

View PostHubijerk, on 10 February 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

The Alpha was a great shaft for it's time, for me it was a little inconsistent in the way it kicked, but it was a tight, accurate shaft.  I would say the Tour Green in TX is similar.  It's kind of a mix between the RIP Alpha and the old Green NV.  I use Green TX in my hybrids and they are long, lower launching and very accurate.  The Green seems to be a more refined RIP Alpha.

Aldila has some cool stuff out there but go for the tour issue or TX stuff when you can, the quality seems to be much higher.

I have all Aldila for my Graphite shafts now, a Synergy Black Proto (Which is the same profile as "The Phene'd" from 2 years ago) in my driver, a X-Torsion Green Mamba which is just an incredible mid launch low spin shaft, then the Tour Green in my hybrids.

MRC shafts may be a bit more refined, but under Mitsubishi ownership Aldila seems to be more like their experimental wing, and their new stuff is looking really good.
All great info.^^^^^^
The first x stiff  shaft I ever bought  was an RIP Alpha. It's  in a Cleveland DST launcher  13į 3 wood.
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In my current 815 3 wood is an NV x stiff, and it is fantastic.
My Son had an RIP'd-NV in a Taylormade RBZ driver.
It was excellent until he outgrew it.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:47 PM

Love that shaft, but I've stopped playing a 3 wood so my buddy has it now.  Another shaft that reminds me of it a bit is the Rogue Max Low.  I understand it has some of the technology from the RIP and the Rogue Silver/Black.  But, the Rogue Max Low is apparently a bit of an unloved shaft, for reasons I do not understand (it is kinda funky looking, so eye appeal is a bit low with it).  I put the Rogue Max Low in my old trusty driver and within a month two of my buddies loved hitting it so much they had me install one on each their drivers.  The RIP is a great shaft still.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:09 PM

I've NEVER gotten on well with the Rogue series. So I recently purchased a 915 D3 from a Facebook group, and it unfortunately came with the Rogue Black. I went to Golf Galaxy, and cruised through their preowned section. Found another Titleist club that had the RIP Alpha in it. Asked them if I could just straight up trade my shaft for the preowned one. Since the Rogue is the more expensive of the 2, the agreed. I got much much better numbers and ball flight with the RIP shaft.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:11 PM

View PostjacobEDGE, on 13 February 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

I've NEVER gotten on well with the Rogue series. So I recently purchased a 915 D3 from a Facebook group, and it unfortunately came with the Rogue Black. I went to Golf Galaxy, and cruised through their preowned section. Found another Titleist club that had the RIP Alpha in it. Asked them if I could just straight up trade my shaft for the preowned one. Since the Rogue is the more expensive of the 2, the agreed. I got much much better numbers and ball flight with the RIP shaft.
. Rogue max are alot better way smoother
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:33 AM

View PostCTSpinDoctor, on 13 February 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

Rogue max are alot better way smoother

The alpha fans don't want smoother ;-)

View PostHubijerk, on 10 February 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

The Alpha was a great shaft for it's time, for me it was a little inconsistent in the way it kicked, but it was a tight, accurate shaft.  I would say the Tour Green in TX is similar.  It's kind of a mix between the RIP Alpha and the old Green NV.  I use Green TX in my hybrids and they are long, lower launching and very accurate.  The Green seems to be a more refined RIP Alpha.

Aldila has some cool stuff out there but go for the tour issue or TX stuff when you can, the quality seems to be much higher.

Not sure if you are - but don't confuse the consistency of your results as a way to judge the quality of the shaft.

The green may seem more "refined" to you but really it's just a different profile that is likely more suitable to your sense of feel.  Noticeably softer in the mid section and little bit softer tip.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:27 AM

View PostStuart G., on 14 February 2018 - 03:33 AM, said:

View PostCTSpinDoctor, on 13 February 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

Rogue max are alot better way smoother

The alpha fans don't want smoother ;-)

View PostHubijerk, on 10 February 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

The Alpha was a great shaft for it's time, for me it was a little inconsistent in the way it kicked, but it was a tight, accurate shaft.  I would say the Tour Green in TX is similar.  It's kind of a mix between the RIP Alpha and the old Green NV.  I use Green TX in my hybrids and they are long, lower launching and very accurate.  The Green seems to be a more refined RIP Alpha.

Aldila has some cool stuff out there but go for the tour issue or TX stuff when you can, the quality seems to be much higher.

Not sure if you are - but don't confuse the consistency of your results as a way to judge the quality of the shaft.

The green may seem more "refined" to you but really it's just a different profile that is likely more suitable to your sense of feel.  Noticeably softer in the mid section and little bit softer tip.

No, I'm not confusing anything.

Once in awhile I would get an unpredictable kick from the Alpha that would result in way more distance or a hard hook.  I have experienced that sort of thing from other retail RIP'd shafts such as the VS Proto RIP'd  but never from Aldila tour issue stuff or the TX models.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:40 AM

The Rip'd version of the vs-proto was a tour issue shaft.  And the biggest difference between the TX versions and the others are the lower torque values.  But that's beside the point.

Inconsistencies can only really come from the swing, not from the shaft (as long as it doesn't actually break on you).   Mechanically, it doesn't get much simpler, you apply the exact same force, they will always bend the exact same way.  The older shafts (in some cases) might be a bit inconsistent from one shaft to another, but that's a different type of inconsistency.  

Now all swings have variations, nobody's a robot.  One shaft can be a better fit then another because the different profile can minimizes how the feel from the shaft might changes over ones normal range of swing variations.  For some people, those variations in feel from the shaft can make things worse.   But those outlying shots are still really a characteristic of the player and how well that shaft might be a fit for the player (and therefore still very important in the fitting process).  They are not an independent characteristic of the shaft - or any reflection of the quality of the shaft in general.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:19 PM

View PostStuart G., on 14 February 2018 - 06:40 AM, said:

The Rip'd version of the vs-proto was a tour issue shaft.  And the biggest difference between the TX versions and the others are the lower torque values.  But that's beside the point.

Inconsistencies can only really come from the swing, not from the shaft (as long as it doesn't actually break on you).   Mechanically, it doesn't get much simpler, you apply the exact same force, they will always bend the exact same way.  The older shafts (in some cases) might be a bit inconsistent from one shaft to another, but that's a different type of inconsistency.  

Now all swings have variations, nobody's a robot.  One shaft can be a better fit then another because the different profile can minimizes how the feel from the shaft might changes over ones normal range of swing variations.  For some people, those variations in feel from the shaft can make things worse.   But those outlying shots are still really a characteristic of the player and how well that shaft might be a fit for the player (and therefore still very important in the fitting process).  They are not an independent characteristic of the shaft - or any reflection of the quality of the shaft in general.

I'm not going to argue with you, I saw a very noticeable difference with those early shafts and the way they kicked vs. the newer higher end models.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:27 PM

View PostCTSpinDoctor, on 13 February 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostjacobEDGE, on 13 February 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

I've NEVER gotten on well with the Rogue series. So I recently purchased a 915 D3 from a Facebook group, and it unfortunately came with the Rogue Black. I went to Golf Galaxy, and cruised through their preowned section. Found another Titleist club that had the RIP Alpha in it. Asked them if I could just straight up trade my shaft for the preowned one. Since the Rogue is the more expensive of the 2, the agreed. I got much much better numbers and ball flight with the RIP shaft.
. Rogue max are alot better way smoother

Agree.  I think of smoother as also having a slightly wider range of swing speed to get a good result.  My one issue with the RIP, and it was 100% based on my swing and not the shaft, was that it seemed to liked to be fully loaded every time.  I never had good luck with it if I backed my swing down just a little bit.  I also might have just been under the optimum swing speed for the RIP to preform, as my average driver speed is between 94 and 99.  The Rouge Max Low seems to let me get away with a lot more and I prefer the ball flight much more than my Rogue Black.  The Rogue Max Low does flight the ball similar for me to the RIP.  The Rogue Silver is a monster for me, but only on the range with that, "all out" range swing.  On the course I just didn't have the speed to make the Rogue Silver perform well for me and I didn't get great or repeatable results with the Silver.  Again, 100% due to my swing and nothing to do with the shaft design.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:51 PM

A half dozen years ago, I tried an Alpha 60.  Didn't care for it, hooked it like crazy.  A healthy part of that is due to the weight; I really don't get along with shafts that light.

Fast forward a bit, I'm about to try an Alpha 80 in a SLDR, probably at 43.5".  Looking forward to seeing what I get.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:05 AM

View PostHubijerk, on 14 February 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

I'm not going to argue with you, I saw a very noticeable difference with those early shafts and the way they kicked vs. the newer higher end models.

That's fine.  But just in case it wasn't clear, I wasn't doubting what you saw.  Only your reasoning on why it happened.

Edited by Stuart G., 15 February 2018 - 04:06 AM.


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 06:56 PM

So how come the Alpha ended up being so unique? I wonder why there are not other shafts in a similar profile? Seems there’s a dozen shafts from different companies in every other profile these days.
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 07:14 PM

Love these shafts. I've still 2 of them
Ping G LST 9*
Callaway Epic 3w & 5w Diamana Thump
X2 Hot #4 Hybrid Matrix White Tie
Ping ie1 5 - GW Nippon SPO
Cleveland RTX-3 54* 58*

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#28 Range Pro

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 07:52 PM

View Postukgolfer, on 10 February 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

Went for a fitting today. Rogue sz 10.5 and for best results and feel with the aldila rip alpha 60.

This shaft is 6 years old or so.  Is it a fitters favourite ? What newer shafts are closest to its profile?

Neil

Talk about old shafts, Aldila NV and NVS are still two of my favorite shafts of all time.  They are much better than 90% of the shafts since.

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#29 Hack Daddy

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 07:52 PM

I just bought a RIP Phenom NL last week.
Nike Vapor Pro Matrix Black Tie 8m3
Nike VR Pro 18*/21*/24* Project X LZ iron shafts .370
Nike VR Pro Combo 4-PW S300 AMT .355
Cobra Tour Trusty 52/56/60 Dynalite 109 .370
Nike B1-01 Black pearl shaft, Cork Tree Pistol
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 08:03 PM

My driver has Aldila R.I.P Beta 60 X-Stiff. Mid point flex for middle trajectory.   I fixed on my driver is lighter and I was put lead smaller stick about 20 grams trimmed tip.  I feel awesome heavy.

No more lead tapes too much.


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