dmeeksDC, on 23 February 2018 - 05:37 AM, said:
Kaexo, on 22 February 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:
I'm not doubting him or his swing claims but what he did was what you just said; categorized a whole driver line to say anyone above a certain swing speed won't see benefits or ball speed increases compared to other brands which clearly isn't true.
Maybe the Rogue doesn't fit his swing but to say the G400 LST or m3 would be better for faster swingers to obtain higher ball speeds is completely unfounded.
I personally don't use a rogue or epic but I know a few 120+ swingers who do and see insane speeds just like they do with a G400 or TM product. All I am saying is yes most of all the big makers make drivers that are extremely even across the board. It's just about finding the right shaft and headshape for you.
They certainly don't see their rogue numbers 10mph less than when they hit other brands.
+1. Guys with high swingspeeds are crushing the Rogue. And what I would say is check the monitor because the one you are on has you swinging the club faster than Dustin Johnson, Bubba Watson, Rory Mcilroy, Tony Finau, Johnny Vegas, etc., all of whom average 120-124 with the occasional swing at 125-127. But they are generally in the low 120s.
These big drops in ballspeed. Are you hitting the Rogue in the middle of the face at 128 and youíre seeing a huge drop? PGA Tour pros cannot swing it that fast AND center it with any consistency.
If the Rogue was 10 mph less than competitors, that news would travel like wildfire. It has to be anecdotal or the LM is jacked or the contact is moving around the face. If you were hitting off center, a 10 mph drop would be possible and likely. But in the middle with a 10 mph drop? Doesnít seem even possible given the quality of the club.
Here we go again.. did anyone really look at that Alex Etches video? His ss on the first ball was 128 mph yet ball speed was under 180... thatís a smash of 1.39.... and he even said he killed it. This kind of proves my point. If he really nutted one at 128 he should be at 190+ ball speeds but he is nowhere close.. about 10 mph off actually. Plus his ďrange monitorĒ is set downwind for some reason. You donít get 342 yard carry with 178-179 ball speeds and 2700 spin.
Seriously donít care to hear about what you think I am capable of compared to DJ, Finau, Rory Bubba, etc (ALL OF WHICH YOU NAMED DO NOT USE Callaway anyway). And I hit on Trackman.. the same Trackman I have been fitted on multiple times. Actually 3 different Trackman monitors. The same system that all these pros use daily. I was fit once at the Taylormade Kingdom Reynolds Plantation by one of the people that fits the tour players. I donít need to argue to prove my point, info is all out there if you really doubt my numbers and this is what I saw. Also seems to be what this Alex guy gets out of it too unless you know of a video where he is getting 190 ball speed with his swing speed.
Both days I hit the Rogue SZ on Trackman were 5 balls one day and 3 balls the other day. Both days my 3 wood was nearing the ball speeds of the Rogue SZ Driver. Take what you want from my findings. Unbelievable to record actual data and be called a liar. Basically all Iím saying here is if you swing over 120 and you donít have access to Trackman, the keep an eye on Rogue vs Ping vs Taylormade because I personally found that the Ping and Taylormade have more pop for me at my speed while at the same time the Rogue had way more pop than Ping and Taylormade for my good friend at his speeds. Should this happen? I donít know but it did. I will even go back and hit it one more time on Trackman out of curiosity. If i see something different maybe Iíll change my opinion. If I see the same result it will be 3 out of 3 thumbs down for me.
Iíll get back to lurking around on here reading absurd comments and not contributing anymore since recording actual information and personal research with data to back it up is apparently not good enough. Donít forget the answer to any question related to equipment is opinion based. I guess my opinion sucks and the data is worthless.
Have a good season everyone.
Edited by ThunderBuzzworth, 23 February 2018 - 10:17 AM.