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#151 Holy Moses

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:31 PM

View PostEKELLY, on 10 February 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

I was living in Bay Hill, and a member, when the rumor started floating around about Arnold's Golf Channel idea. We kinda laughed it off, some thinking "the old coot is NUTS!" "24 hour golf, that'll sink like the titanic!" Swear to god, he made it happen, then all the membership talked about was the over/under on how long it would last. Had to fail! WELL, here we are.....

Golf Channel just came out with a book on how the station started. It was a chance meeting between Joe Gibbs and Arnold. They really struggled to get funding early on. If Tiger never had occurred, I wonder if Golf Channel would have stuck.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 09:18 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 10 February 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostEKELLY, on 10 February 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

I was living in Bay Hill, and a member, when the rumor started floating around about Arnold's Golf Channel idea. We kinda laughed it off, some thinking "the old coot is NUTS!" "24 hour golf, that'll sink like the titanic!" Swear to god, he made it happen, then all the membership talked about was the over/under on how long it would last. Had to fail! WELL, here we are.....

Golf Channel just came out with a book on how the station started. It was a chance meeting between Joe Gibbs and Arnold. They really struggled to get funding early on. If Tiger never had occurred, I wonder if Golf Channel would have stuck.

Really doubt it.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 10:55 PM

View Posttnord, on 10 February 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

View PostHawkeye77, on 10 February 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

View Posttnord, on 10 February 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

i mean MD itself, not the golf channel as a whole. they named it the AP Studio after him, had him cut the ribbon, etc.   i found it sad to put his name on something that I, and others, view as being worse than the old version.

It's the entire studio, not the bathroom.

Nice tribute.  Not like it's "Arnold Palmer's Morning Drive".  Oh well.

well, fair point. i still saw the new studio, production, and overall direction of the network as inauthentic, tacky, and typical overdone corporate "gold plating," more catered to the average viewer rather than the golf enthusiast.

you don't have to agree, that's just how i viewed the change after the NBC/Comcast takeover.

Pretty sure we can agree the set is really, really blue - not my favorite.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:28 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 10 February 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostEKELLY, on 10 February 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

I was living in Bay Hill, and a member, when the rumor started floating around about Arnold's Golf Channel idea. We kinda laughed it off, some thinking "the old coot is NUTS!" "24 hour golf, that'll sink like the titanic!" Swear to god, he made it happen, then all the membership talked about was the over/under on how long it would last. Had to fail! WELL, here we are.....

Golf Channel just came out with a book on how the station started. It was a chance meeting between Joe Gibbs and Arnold. They really struggled to get funding early on. If Tiger never had occurred, I wonder if Golf Channel would have stuck.
Don't get me wrong, people WERE excited about it, they just couldn't fathom the content needed to cover 24/7.......lol

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:45 PM

View Posttnord, on 10 February 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

you don't have to agree, that's just how i viewed the change after the NBC/Comcast takeover.
Comcast has owned Golf Channel since the early 2000's. When Comcast bought NBC/Universal in 2011 GC was placed under the NBC Sports group.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:20 AM

View PostEKELLY, on 11 February 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

View PostHoly Moses, on 10 February 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostEKELLY, on 10 February 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

I was living in Bay Hill, and a member, when the rumor started floating around about Arnold's Golf Channel idea. We kinda laughed it off, some thinking "the old coot is NUTS!" "24 hour golf, that'll sink like the titanic!" Swear to god, he made it happen, then all the membership talked about was the over/under on how long it would last. Had to fail! WELL, here we are.....

Golf Channel just came out with a book on how the station started. It was a chance meeting between Joe Gibbs and Arnold. They really struggled to get funding early on. If Tiger never had occurred, I wonder if Golf Channel would have stuck.
Don't get me wrong, people WERE excited about it, they just couldn't fathom the content needed to cover 24/7.......lol
Yes they did. They knew golfers love gadgets and they could fill any dead air with infomercials. Joe Gibbs is pretty smart

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:19 PM

In comes this guy again to tell everybody they're wrong about everything....
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:49 PM

View PostWidespreadPanic, on 13 February 2018 - 01:19 PM, said:

In comes this guy again to tell everybody they're wrong about everything....
Youíre wrong about that

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:00 PM

View PostRDD, on 13 February 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

View PostWidespreadPanic, on 13 February 2018 - 01:19 PM, said:

In comes this guy again to tell everybody they're wrong about everything....
You’re wrong about that

Have to admit, that was pretty funny!
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:36 PM

View PostDRRicks, on 04 February 2018 - 03:37 PM, said:

Yes! Their scheduling is very odd now. Not to mention (whether you liked him or not), the loss of Breed leaves a huge hole to fill. After watching one episode of Spieth’s coach, I can say that it isn’t the answer.

Lots of horrid advice being given on the Golf Channel. No wonder golfers are confused.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:39 PM

View PostBrowns71213, on 04 February 2018 - 06:01 PM, said:

It was on today when I was at the gym so I got to watch the whole thing. My favorite part was when Trevor Immelman said that amateurs should take more time over their ball. Yeah, that's exactly what golf needs ammy's spending more time over their ball! Sheesh!

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:03 PM

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I watch. It's golf in the morning.

Charlie is OK. Seems like the big, harmless, likeable neighborhood kid.

Like Paige and Kara (not sure on her spelling).

Lauren Thompson is solid (but cut the LT crap, call her Lauren) as is Gary Williams.

Damon Hack? I just don't get why he is even on there. He doesn't add anything to the show (excep volume).  


And I can't stand Ginella. Yeah Matt, that's a nice list of playable courses in th area. If I have an unlimited budget I'll look to you for advice.  No s**t Pebble Beach is a nice place to play if you're on the peninsula.  He's a name dropper, courses and people. Although it's also possible I might just be jealous of him!��

But it's still the best golf show that's on in the morning.

Damon Hack.. used to be an NFL writer over at Sports Illustrated. How he wound up on the golf channel, I'll never understand.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:05 PM

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 04 February 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

I watch. It's golf in the morning.

Charlie is OK. Seems like the big, harmless, likeable neighborhood kid.

Like Paige and Kara (not sure on her spelling).

Lauren Thompson is solid (but cut the LT crap, call her Lauren) as is Gary Williams.

Damon Hack? I just don't get why he is even on there. He doesn't add anything to the show (excep volume).  


And I can't stand Ginella. Yeah Matt, that's a nice list of playable courses in th area. If I have an unlimited budget I'll look to you for advice.  No s**t Pebble Beach is a nice place to play if you're on the peninsula.  He's a name dropper, courses and people. Although it's also possible I might just be jealous of him!��

But it's still the best golf show that's on in the morning.

Damon Hack.. used to be an NFL writer over at Sports Illustrated. How he wound up on the golf channel, I'll never understand.

Been seeing him over at the winter games doing interviews. Great person to have interview athletes and seems down to earth but boy he IS NOT a cold weather person. He looks miserable not being on set.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:08 PM

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It's been the same crappy show ever since Comcast / NBC tried to turn it into the Today show. Can't believe I'm saying this but it was better when Erik Kuselias was banging Holly on the side and it was just him and Gary.

I will say though, the video of watching Damon Hack try to chip playing "Golf Pong" at the PGA Show was the funniest thing I've seen in years. I am dumbfounded how someone can play as much golf as he does and suck so badly.

http://www.golfchann...beer-pong-golf/

I agree....I liked it best back when it first started....Heck I liked it back when it was the Grey Goose 19th Hole with that big guy from The Big Break.  At least then it was actual discussion regarding golf and not cheesy segments to fill airtime.  I've said it before but i'll say it again....Have an instruction segment with quality tips that don't revolve around copying the winning players bowed wrist or how they add hinge  in the downsing......Have a segment on course strategy or hole design, have an equipment segment with real reviews both pros AND CONs not just a 3 minute marketing ad by Matt Adams.  I actually like the health segments so I would be ok keeping that and then talk about what's going on inside the ropes...that's what people want to know..not a bunch of fluff or cheesy skits with Damon Hack who if i hear him say butter cut one more time i'm going to hulk smash my tv.

Forgot about the Grey Goose 19th hole - loved that. And I also used to really like "On the Range".

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:20 PM

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

View Postferrispgm, on 05 February 2018 - 11:01 AM, said:

View PostAUTIGER07, on 04 February 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

It's been the same crappy show ever since Comcast / NBC tried to turn it into the Today show. Can't believe I'm saying this but it was better when Erik Kuselias was banging Holly on the side and it was just him and Gary.

I will say though, the video of watching Damon Hack try to chip playing "Golf Pong" at the PGA Show was the funniest thing I've seen in years. I am dumbfounded how someone can play as much golf as he does and suck so badly.

http://www.golfchann...beer-pong-golf/

I agree....I liked it best back when it first started....Heck I liked it back when it was the Grey Goose 19th Hole with that big guy from The Big Break.  At least then it was actual discussion regarding golf and not cheesy segments to fill airtime.  I've said it before but i'll say it again....Have an instruction segment with quality tips that don't revolve around copying the winning players bowed wrist or how they add hinge  in the downsing......Have a segment on course strategy or hole design, have an equipment segment with real reviews both pros AND CONs not just a 3 minute marketing ad by Matt Adams.  I actually like the health segments so I would be ok keeping that and then talk about what's going on inside the ropes...that's what people want to know..not a bunch of fluff or cheesy skits with Damon Hack who if i hear him say butter cut one more time i'm going to hulk smash my tv.

Forgot about the Grey Goose 19th hole - loved that. And I also used to really like "On the Range".

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:24 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 07 February 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Big props to RDD for coming on here for some honest conversation.  The www. needs more of that sort of interaction.  More real insight less fake news.

Pardon my ignorance, but who is RDD? :-/

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:34 PM

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 07 February 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Big props to RDD for coming on here for some honest conversation.  The www. needs more of that sort of interaction.  More real insight less fake news.

Pardon my ignorance, but who is RDD? :-/

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:41 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 08 February 2018 - 07:37 AM, said:

The fact that there is an entire network dedicated to one game, and a talk show dedicated to one game is unbelievable if you think about it. I remember when the only sports coverage on TV was 10 minutes on the local evening news. Golf? Only if a major was being played it might get 60 seconds. ESPN was a big deal. George Michaels Sports Machine was revolutionary. Internet? Hell I just wanted my weekly Sports Illustrated and my monthly Golf Digest.

Y’all a bunch of spoiled babies.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:44 PM

View PostDON SVO, on 13 February 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 07 February 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Big props to RDD for coming on here for some honest conversation.  The www. needs more of that sort of interaction.  More real insight less fake news.

Pardon my ignorance, but who is RDD? :-/

Robert Damron.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

Quick..tune to Golf Channel. Yet Another Movie is playing!

Tonight would have been a good time to air some playing lessons with the pros or Golf Channel Academies.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:58 PM

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Quick..tune to Golf Channel. Yet Another Movie is playing!

Tonight would have been a good time to air some playing lessons with the pros or Golf Channel Academies.

It’s a new idea! They’re seeing if they can get everyone to change the channel.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:23 PM

I dropped the package on directv with the Golf Channel, it was the only reason I was paying for it but it sucks now!
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:24 PM

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Quick..tune to Golf Channel. Yet Another Movie is playing!

Tonight would have been a good time to air some playing lessons with the pros or Golf Channel Academies.

They had those last night
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:06 AM

View PostDRRicks, on 13 February 2018 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Quick..tune to Golf Channel. Yet Another Movie is playing!

Tonight would have been a good time to air some playing lessons with the pros or Golf Channel Academies.

Itís a new idea! Theyíre seeing if they can get everyone to change the channel.

Iíve been in business since 2002.  And the one thing Iím completely sure about  is that the customer is frequently off in left field .  As in wrong !  

Robert is correct to let anyone know that the Channel  changes.  Iíve watched the show for years. I donít see much difference .  I enjoy Roberts addition to the show and wasnít sad when Holly left.  Iím sure Iím not The only one.

If anything loosing Breed and his goofy self was a plus. Iíd love to see McCormick there full time with instruction. His takes are more serious and common sense based. So itís yet to be seen exactly how a few things shake out. But All in all morning drive still fills the same spot it always has for me.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:15 AM

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

Damon Hack.. used to be an NFL writer over at Sports Illustrated. How he wound up on the golf channel, I'll never understand.
He also covered golf for Sports Illustrated/Golf.com and was a golf writer at both the NY Times and Newsday.

Edited by grm24, 14 February 2018 - 12:17 AM.


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#176 DRRicks

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:32 AM

View Postbladehunter, on 14 February 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 13 February 2018 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Quick..tune to Golf Channel. Yet Another Movie is playing!

Tonight would have been a good time to air some playing lessons with the pros or Golf Channel Academies.

Itís a new idea! Theyíre seeing if they can get everyone to change the channel.

Iíve been in business since 2002.  And the one thing Iím completely sure about  is that the customer is frequently off in left field .  As in wrong!

Iím sure youíve been very successful in that long and storied career then...
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#177 bladehunter

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:07 AM

View PostDRRicks, on 14 February 2018 - 06:32 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 14 February 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:

View PostDRRicks, on 13 February 2018 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postgolfer07840, on 13 February 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Quick..tune to Golf Channel. Yet Another Movie is playing!

Tonight would have been a good time to air some playing lessons with the pros or Golf Channel Academies.

Itís a new idea! Theyíre seeing if they can get everyone to change the channel.

Iíve been in business since 2002.  And the one thing Iím completely sure about  is that the customer is frequently off in left field .  As in wrong!

Iím sure youíve been very successful in that long and storied career then...

Lol.  Yes.  Point is the wives tale that the customer is alwasy right is just that.  False. Some folks are unhappy no matter what you do.  Those folks are always going to be a negative. Negative attitude and negative impact on the bottom line.  

Folks who hate morning drive now have always hated it. And those folks should change the channel.   Not trying to be harsh.  But the attitude being displayed against a pretty nice guy who happens to be on the inside of the subject at hand is pretty telling . You donít seen to like morning drive and Iím guessing never have.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

I never realized that several years ago when I enjoyed watching Morning Drive (before Ginella, Hack, etc...) that I actually hated it.   Thanks for clearing that up.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:38 AM

Does anyone else find this a poor headline?DF676223-D8BD-46D1-BFF9-C44EC16D14C9.jpeg

To me,it appears that Haas is the fatality. Maybe itís just me. Of course after looking closer, at the small type is says released. But you donít notice that initially.

Edited by deadsolid...shank, 14 February 2018 - 09:39 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:23 AM

View Postdukeman, on 08 February 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

At least they’re not showing 3-4 hours of Jim McLean’s X-Factor videos every single morning, which they did back in the “good old days.”
At its absolute worst MD is a giant step up from that.

The main issue, imho, is just that we have MD glut. Too much air time and not enough compelling topics. Sometimes it’s really entertaining. Sometimes it’s Dr what’s his name or some random nutritionist telling me to drink more water and eat less sugar....just like every other health segment on every other morning show, golf or otherwise, on every other network for the last 50 years.

Cut the show to 90 or even 60 minutes Wednesday through Monday and there wouldn’t be so much fluff

This just in Drink more Sugar and Eat less Water.


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