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#331 Goldhawk

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:35 PM

View Post1Mordrid1, on 11 July 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

View Postradiman, on 11 July 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

View Post1Mordrid1, on 11 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

I had a poor CS experience with Taylormade with my M1 440, so at least for a while Taylormade is on my will not buy or consider list. If I did not struggle with 3 wood so horribly, the R15 would get replaced as well.

Was it a warranty replacement issue? My buddy is 3 weeks out from sending his in to get it replaced. Sucks to be without your driver that long in the middle of the season. At this point, he plans on trading it in as soon as it comes back. Vows to not play another TM club.

Ordered mine directly from TM with amd upgraded shaft. Played golf the day after I got it. On the second tee shot the shaft snapped at the adapter. Long story short Taylormade refused to make it right after having the club for about 3 weeks. They finally sent back the head 2 weeks later without the broken shaft that could have been cut down for a 3 wood. So I wemt around and around with them about that and once again got nowhere except they offered me $25 off if I wanted to purchase a new driver or 3 wood from them.

Wow, thats really bad...
I broke a Ping shaft and an independent shop told me to call Ping directly and that they would replace it.
Got in touch with them no problem, first call, not put on hold for more then 2 min. Unfortunately they told me they only warranty clubs up to 4 yrs, and mine was about 5. Which I cant fault them at all for, totally understand.


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#332 radiman

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:53 PM

View Post1Mordrid1, on 11 July 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

View Postradiman, on 11 July 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

View Post1Mordrid1, on 11 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

I had a poor CS experience with Taylormade with my M1 440, so at least for a while Taylormade is on my will not buy or consider list. If I did not struggle with 3 wood so horribly, the R15 would get replaced as well.

Was it a warranty replacement issue? My buddy is 3 weeks out from sending his in to get it replaced. Sucks to be without your driver that long in the middle of the season. At this point, he plans on trading it in as soon as it comes back. Vows to not play another TM club.


Ordered mine directly from TM with amd upgraded shaft. Played golf the day after I got it. On the second tee shot the shaft snapped at the adapter. Long story short Taylormade refused to make it right after having the club for about 3 weeks. They finally sent back the head 2 weeks later without the broken shaft that could have been cut down for a 3 wood. So I wemt around and around with them about that and once again got nowhere except they offered me $25 off if I wanted to purchase a new driver or 3 wood from them.

How in the world could they not possibly cover that? They must claimed it was from misuse? That story makes me not want to buy a TM club and I've never had to deal with their customer service. That's just terrible.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

View PostBottleCap, on 17 January 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

TaylorMade because they harassed a WRXer for posting a pic of an M4
Really???
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:05 PM

I've never swung a club I wouldn't use, except for 5 foot long putters.  To the people criticizing Ping, try one swing with a G400 driver.  Compared to the clubs we had in the 1960's, I don't see anything much to complain about, yet people will.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:13 PM

View Postradiman, on 11 July 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

View Post1Mordrid1, on 11 July 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

View Postradiman, on 11 July 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

View Post1Mordrid1, on 11 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

I had a poor CS experience with Taylormade with my M1 440, so at least for a while Taylormade is on my will not buy or consider list. If I did not struggle with 3 wood so horribly, the R15 would get replaced as well.

Was it a warranty replacement issue? My buddy is 3 weeks out from sending his in to get it replaced. Sucks to be without your driver that long in the middle of the season. At this point, he plans on trading it in as soon as it comes back. Vows to not play another TM club.


Ordered mine directly from TM with amd upgraded shaft. Played golf the day after I got it. On the second tee shot the shaft snapped at the adapter. Long story short Taylormade refused to make it right after having the club for about 3 weeks. They finally sent back the head 2 weeks later without the broken shaft that could have been cut down for a 3 wood. So I wemt around and around with them about that and once again got nowhere except they offered me $25 off if I wanted to purchase a new driver or 3 wood from them.

How in the world could they not possibly cover that? They must claimed it was from misuse? That story makes me not want to buy a TM club and I've never had to deal with their customer service. That's just terrible.
The final e-mail I got said because they could not determine if the break was due to manufacturer defect or missuse that they could not cover it.

Not sure how true this is, but when I got fit for my Rogue at GG, the fitter said that if it had not been an upgraded shaft that Taylormade probably would have replaced it. And that it probably broke because it was installed incorrectly by TM.

Edited by 1Mordrid1, 11 July 2018 - 01:13 PM.

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Callaway Rogue driver w/ Oban Tour Limited 4 60
Taylormade R15 3 wood w/ Kurocage 60 tini s
Nike Sasquatch Sumo #4 hybrid(cut down 1") w/ H Diamana s
Srixon U65 20° Miyazaki Kaula 7 s
Ping G700 5-UW AWT 2.0(1°flat, 2° weak)
Callaway Mack Daddy PM grind 56 /KBS Tour V
Callaway Mack Daddy PM grind 60/KBS Tour V
Scotty Cameron Select Fastback
2018 Chrome Soft X

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:32 PM

Cobra, Taylor Made. Stopped playing Wilson after my last set of forged tour blades and persimmons.

Actually, the only clubs I have played for the last 15 years or so are Titleist and Ping, with Ping being the dominant choice by a large margin.

Edit: Forgot to list Callaway as a brand I won't play. So include any others that I didn't mention as well. ;)

Edited by wrmiller, 11 July 2018 - 02:16 PM.

Primary bag:
Titleist 913 D3 8.5
Titleist 915Fd 13.5
Titleist 913h 17
Mizuno MP-18 4-PW
Scratch wedges 50, 55, and 60
Bettinardi mid-shank putter

Backup bag:
Ping G400 9
Ping G30 fw 13
Ping G30 hybrid 19
Ping iBlade 4-PW power spec
Macgregor VIP wedges 51, 56, and 60
Bettinardi mid-shank putter

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:34 PM

PXG. Because I can't afford them.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:58 PM

View PostDash Boogie, on 11 July 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

CRAZY Shafts - maybe I'm mad because I burned myself buying one of these, but what a friggin ripoff.  $600 to make your driver look like its wearing an Affliction t-shirt.

Titleist - Since I started playing 20 years ago, I've always viewed this as a snobby brand.  Their products have never wowed me either.  I'm definitely happy finding a ProV1 on the course, but wouldn't spend $50 on a dozen of them.  So happy to see companies like Vice and Snell challenging this brand.

Mizuno - I'm a lefty.

TM and Callaway -  Too many model releases, too many empty promises.  Both have the odd diamond in the rough (VSteel, XForged, etc.), but most of the stuff is average.

What does this leave you playing?? Old Ping Eye 2s  Maybe you're a COBRA loyalist
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:28 PM

I will add Wilson to this list but the V6 irons look and feel awesome. Not so sure about the woods or wedges
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Driver - PING G400 LST 8.5, Fujikura Speeder Evolution II 661 S
3 Wood - PING G400 14.5, Ping Tour 75 S
Hybrid - Ping G400 19 degree, Alta CB 70 S or Taylormade P790 UDI, HZRDUS Black 6.0
4-PW - Mizuno Mp 18 MMC 4 iron, Mizuno MP 18 SC 5-PW, KBS C Taper 130 x
Wedges - Titleist Vokey SM7 (52 F, 56 F, 60 D, bent to 51, 55, 59)
Putter - Taylormade Spider Tour Black

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:36 PM

Generally, cobra and Callaway woods, a lot of Ping stuff until recently since they’ve upped their aesthetics....

MacGregor PCB Tours...the leopard of irons.

Taylormade SLDR TP 430 9*
MacGregor MT 13*
Titleist 909H 17*
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21*
Mizuno Yoro MP-15 4-PW
Mizuno MP T7 52* 58*
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:20 PM

Cant really say I wouldnt play anything other than maybe some dept store brands.

There are certainly clubs I wouldnt pay for (PXG) but I would play them if you gave them to me.

My bag is quite the mixed set.
Titleist 917 D3 9.5į - HZRDUS Yellow 65
Callaway XR Pro 3deep 14į - Project X LZ  
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 18į - C Taper 125
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 23į - C Taper 120                  
Wilson Staff FG62 - S300
Cobra Tour Trusty 52į/56į/62- S300
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:58 PM

i used to say mizuno but now i play their wedges lol. so im going to have to go w/ miura - because of deninny :-)


(just kidding, well, maybe)
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:04 PM

I'll play anything as long as it plays well, looks good and feels right. I've got a full, broad mix of old to somewhat new, across 7 different brands right now. Some brands are big names (TM, Mizuno, Cleveland) some are generic (e.g. my sand wedge is some unbranded thing) and some are semi-known components (e.g. an old Dynacraft hybrid).

About the only thing I'm particularly loyal to, brandwise, are Lamkin Crossline grips. I've used these exclusively for as long as I can remember. I'm sure I would be happy playing with a multitude of any other grips, too, but these things feel good and last, seemingly, forever.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:12 PM

TM. Well i do have a rbz 3 wood (only bc i picked it up for $40 NIP) that is just a cannon but once that thing dies/quits behaving its the end of anything TM that will be in my bag. TP5 is a good ball but not in my bag. if i find one on course i give it to someone or leave it in the middle of fairway for next group to find.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:13 PM

I used to say Callaway but Iím now using the Rogue Sub Zero

Current bag:
Titleist TS3 Oban Kiyoshi Purple 65

Titleist TS2 GD Tour AD-MT 7

Titleist 818H1 19, 818H1 23 GD Tour AD-DI 85
Epon AF-705 5-AW MRC OT-I 95
Vokey Wedgeworks SM7 Raw 54M, 58D

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:05 PM

Adams, Burke, Callaway, Cleveland, Cobra, Dunlop, Epon  First Flight, Henry-Griffitts, Hogan, Jerry Barber, Kenneth-Smith, Lynx , MacGregor, Miura, Mizuno, Nike, Northwestern, Orlimar, PGA/Tommy Armour, Ping, PowerBilt, PRGR, Ram, Spalding, TaylorMade, Tiger Shark, Titleist, Wishon, Wilson, Wright & Ditson, and a few others.

I'm not playing with any of them--until tomorrow.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:54 PM

View PostTyler1putt, on 17 January 2018 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostDavePelz4, on 17 January 2018 - 11:17 AM, said:

For some reason Nike balls spun more than any other ball I've tried to play.

All Nike balls after the One platinum were absolutely dreadful

Lol, right......

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:18 PM

View PostMtlJeff, on 17 January 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

I'll play anything that works and is affordable

This is the most reasonable answer to any question on what brand should be played. So this cannot be the correct answer on this forum. That it all.
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3 and 5 Wood Ping G15
3-5 Hybrids Cobra Baffler XL
6-GW Titleist AP1s
53 degree Wedge Titleist AP1
58 degree SW Vokey SM6
Putter White Hot V LINE Fang w/round Edel Grip

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#349 NoTalentLefty

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:21 PM

View PostNoTalentLefty, on 10 July 2018 - 05:42 PM, said:

, Mizuno wasnít as friendly to lefties as it is now,  Nike didnít like the look. Yonex wasnít easy to find in our parts. Other than that Iíve played about every brand that you can buy easily.

I would of added titleist at one time but Iíve had a change of heart since trying the 913D3 and the AP1s 716 and 718. Now itís my first thought on club selection.
Livin' proof that Lefties are not naturally talented.

Driver Titleist 913 D3 44 inches also a Cleveland Classic 310 43.5 inches
3 and 5 Wood Ping G15
3-5 Hybrids Cobra Baffler XL
6-GW Titleist AP1s
53 degree Wedge Titleist AP1
58 degree SW Vokey SM6
Putter White Hot V LINE Fang w/round Edel Grip

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:26 PM

Ping because all of their equipment looks like dog sh*t and their fanboys are more annoying than even the PXG guys


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#351 Mukky

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:03 PM

View Posthrmgolf72, on 20 February 2018 - 12:44 PM, said:

View Postgolf1836, on 20 February 2018 - 10:07 AM, said:

I would not buy taylormade new because they are a bad investment. they come out with a new driver every six months then your club is half price

couldnt agree more, and the products arent fantastic,the irons are a clubs strong so they trick people into thinking they hit a 7 iron 10 yards longer,when in reality its a 6 iron

Their woods are fantastic. Just look at all the players on tour playing them without a contract. And every brand does the whole jacked loft thing on SGI irons

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#352 bopper53

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:54 PM

Easy TaylorMade, they cheapen their  brand with a new club every 6 months.

Titleist a close second because they never get their special order irons right with the requested specs.

Edited by bopper53, 11 July 2018 - 07:55 PM.

Ping G400 Max 10.5, XTorsion 65
Ping G400 3 Wood, Tour 75
Ping G400, Hybrid 19
Ping I210, 4-PW, with DG 105 shafts
Ping Tyne 4  Putter
Ping Stealth 2 Wedges, 56 / 58 Nippon Wedge shafts

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:11 PM

View Postbopper53, on 11 July 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

Easy TaylorMade, they cheapen their  brand with a new club every 6 months.

Titleist a close second because they never get their special order irons right with the requested specs.
Seems like a reason TO play Taylormade. Deeply discounted clubs that are relatively new.

For me, I never pay retail. Only used clubs. There is too much of a disparity between on course results and a hitting bay that I need to try clubs out for a few rounds to determine whether I like them. I would take too big of a financial hit employing that testing method after paying full retail.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:09 PM

This thread has been a great read. I will play anything if the price is right which rules out PXG. For some reason I've never gotten along with Fujikura shafts.
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Driver: Ping G400 Max 9* Matrix 8M3
3 Wood: TM 16 M2 13* Diamana Thump 75
4-7 Wood: Cobra F6 Baffler 19* PX Evenflow
4 Iron: TM RSI TP UDI Aldila Rip'd VS Proto
5-PW: Bridgestone J15DF KBS C-Taper
50,56,60: Callaway MD3, Vokey TVD, Mizuno T7
Putter: Method 003, Bettinardi Queen B7

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:09 AM

I was always a Mizuno guy, disliked Calloway.  
Mizuno's were stolen and Calloway's ended up in my bag.
Handicap is down 3 index points since buying.  
But that is probably because I went from 30 rounds a year to 85..

Grew up on Ping Eye 2's, but Pings no longer look good to me.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

View PostMukky, on 11 July 2018 - 06:26 PM, said:

Ping because all of their equipment looks like dog sh*t and their fanboys are more annoying than even the PXG guys
vault 2.0 putters are amazing looking.....what you sayin?

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

View Postbopper53, on 11 July 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

Easy TaylorMade, they cheapen their  brand with a new club every 6 months.

Titleist a close second because they never get their special order irons right with the requested specs.
disagree 100% about Titleist....never had an issue and superior customer service. played Titleist for 15 years so far

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:59 AM

I play a bunch of brands.  I used to think I'd never consider Tour Edge "Bazooka" clubs, because they were kind of a bargain club targeted at higher handicaps.  Yesterday I got beat by a guy who shot even par using three Bazooka hybrids that were about 20 years old.  He's a solid 3 handicap.  I might have to give Bazooka another look, and try them out.  Prejudice and bias get you in trouble all the time.

Edited by dave willie, 12 July 2018 - 12:00 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:38 PM

It's not a hard "won't", but I had a warranty CS issue with TM a year or so ago that took several weeks and tracking down one of their local reps on LinkedIn to get settled... oddly enough, the issue was with an Adams club (which I'd play all day long, especially because they have no resale and are a steal on the used market) but it was TM CS handling it and they handled it quite poorly.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:45 PM

PXG for no other reason than the fact I've just had a mega argument with one of their fitters.


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