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Golftec swing analysis what a ripoff


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#61 nsxguy

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 11:16 PM

View Postreteemcgee, on 14 January 2018 - 05:22 PM, said:

So i booked a swing analysis due to wanting to punch my driver in the face (just my driver).  I talked to the guy on the phone told him I was struggling with just my driver.  He says that the "initial" lesson is videoing swing then he would give you some tips to work on.  I was excited to do this because of all the technology they use I figured it would take a lot of the guess work out.

The appointment was an hour long even though he told me we would probably go for 1.5 hours and it was $125.00 which is not a bad deal for that technology and that long of a lesson.

The first part of the lesson I hit balls and he took video.  about ten minutes in he brought me over and showed me my swing on camera.  All my swings to that point he had me hit an 8 iron.  He pointed out a couple things I did wrong even though I instantly spotted the main problem he never mentioned it.

He then gave me a couple pointers and i hit literally TWO golf balls.  He then took a video of a practice swing doing the pointers.  He then brought me back over for a before and after analysis.  The after swing he used was a practice swing.  Newsflash my practice swing looks like Tiger in his prime versus my actual swing so lookout.  He told me look how much better your swing is since the little time I have worked with you just imagine what we could do if we did a long term plan.  I thought to  myself oh boy here we go.

And away we went indeed.  We worked together for a total of 21 minutes the next hour and nine minutes were him trying to sell me some kind of lesson package that was around 3k.  I was furious and I let him know it.  First off you to take a practice swing and compare it to an actual swing is beyond stupid I don't know what suckers this works on but I am not one of them.  I told him I literally came in to get a tip for driver and not once did he mention it or even let me hit despite me bringing it up several times.  I will never ever go back there again place is a scam.  Lesson learned.

TLDR: Golftec swing analysis is a 20 minute swing video and over an hour of a sales pitch trying to sell you thousands of dollars worth of lessons while not fixing anything in your first "lesson".

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:49 AM

View PostBottleCap, on 14 January 2018 - 06:31 PM, said:

Maybe you just got a bad Golftec guy and the majority are better

I worked there starting my career many years ago, it’s how it always goes.  It’s how we were trained.  Funny too, all the technology is very dated now.
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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:59 AM

I think what leaves many with a sour taste about GolfTec is the business model.  As a new student I want my first lesson to be focused on how I can improve and a plan to get there.  The constant focus on upselling leaves a sour taste in some peoples' mouths.

They also immediately jump to selling packages and locking you in.  Plus some of the better teachers want a year commitment... even before you've met them.  I think that would be an easier sell if 90% of that first lesson was focused on pure instruction.

...and, as mentioned the 'Tec' side is now way behind the curve in some of the places... Gen 1 wired K-Vest, busted microphones... It doesn't necessarily feel that 'techie'...

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 01:30 PM

Iíd rather work with a Golftec coach than a shop pro with some bot-driven IG.  My experience at Golftec was informative, measurable and visual because they are trained instructors.

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 01:33 PM

I canít say enough positive things about MY experience at golftec. The business model is what it is, their main revenue stream is selling lesson packages. If you donít want to be sold to, golftec will put you off a bit. I saw this as a positive. The guy I worked with really got to know me, my game, and my goals and then he utilized that information to try and sell me a package. I chose a lower cost plan, and then he used everything he had learned about me to guide our next 10 lessons.

Where I feel bad for the guy I worked with is the perception that golftec lessons are either great or a scam and then they all get lumped together. Golftec is just the facilitator. Your experience and quality of lessons will come down to the individual instructor and how his or her teaching style and philosophies transfer to you as the student. Saying golftec lessons are a scam or golftec lessons are fantastic is not all that different than lumping all club pros together or all driving range pros together.

My recommendation would be to find an instructor within your budget that comes well recommended and meshes with your learning style. If thatís at a golftec, great. If thatís out of some guyís garage, fine. If thatís with your club pro, cool.

Nobody ever comes on here after a bad lesson at their club and says lessons at private country clubs are a scam. I saw significantly more improvement in my golf game from my lesson package at golftec than I did from a similar package of lessons at my club at a similar price.

Just take threads like this with a huge grain of salt. YMMV.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 11:35 AM

I paid for a series at GolfTEC in Los Angeles when I was a 15 handicap. The first lesson they asked me my goal, I said I wanted to be a low single digit handicap. They said that is probably not possible and that most people who start later in life will never be a high single digit. They added, how about we set a realistic goal of a 12 handicap?

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 12:26 PM

Here's my (copy paste) take as someone who is currently in a Golftec package:

I bought a 6 month package. The best thing about it is the free practice time. I know all my gaps now, I can hit balls for 'free' whenever I want, and golftec is about 5 minutes from my house.

When I started I had just gotten into the game after a 10 year absence and was playing HORRIBLE golf. Big OTT move, swaying all over the place, no ball striking consistency, and no Idea what I was doing wrong. Avg score 120+ (no hcp).

3 months in, I'm shooting repeatably in the 90s (22.0 hcp) and am trying to get rid of my big slice miss (issues closing the clubface, still have limited "feel"). I still can't hit my driver.

My take is, if you suck at golf swing, GOLFTEC is going to point you in the right direction. If I was a 10 hcp and had some control of my swing already and wanted to make nuanced changes, I would find somewhere else. It's a great avenue to fix glaring swing issues and address the swing big picture, plus you get loads of practice time in a bay, and you can hit whatever club they have whenever you want - so there is some real benefit to be had there. I really like my coach, which I think as with anything else, it's the coach you end up with, not necessarily GOLFTEC that is going to make or break you experience.

When I'm done with my 6 month package I will see if there is a 'practice package' so I can still use the facilities, but I will likely seek instruction elsewhere (Does anyone recommend a trackman or GCQuad equipped coach in SD?), not at the fault of my coach but just to get some fresh eyes and some new thoughts... (probably Monte's).

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 03:18 PM

View Postduffer18, on 25 April 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:

Sorry, guys, have to give GolfTec props.  Yes, they are expensive.  Yes, they have variability in instructors, I'm sure.  But I found a really good one, and he's made a big difference in my golfing life.  I've tried a few other instructors in other places who did nothing for me.  Ryan Skoglund (in the Boston area) did a great job of slowly changing my swing while also teaching me about the damn thing so I could better understand what to do when things go awry.  And he can diagnose my problems quickly and explain them clearly.  He uses technology, but he has not tried to make my swing look like any pro golfer--and given that I'm 66, an overweight hacker, that will never happen.  I tend to do a bunch of lessons in the winter, get things squared away, and then only go back occasionally in the summer if all hell breaks loose with my swing.  Unfortunately, he's just moved to another location, so I'll either need to be comfortable with another instructor or not go back to GolfTec.  But, simply put, I play better and I'm happier on the golf course with Ryan's help.

Don’t think one lesson is enough to fix anything major?

Some have written that they took 6 lessons where backswing was the lesson, it’s totally possible that was his issue and he hadn’t fixed it the first 5 lessons?

It’s tough to learn golf and even tougher to teach it. Not an easy sport to learn by any means.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:23 AM

View PostOakBrook, on 08 February 2018 - 10:56 PM, said:

Been playing rugged LH golf for 40 years.  Have learned to accommodate my swing flaws in order to score (I am a 8 index), but felt I could do better.  A friend recommended Golftec based on a reference from a player he witnessed going from a 14 to a 4 - in 1 year.  I was intrigued.  I went through a swing evaluation and felt the "coach" was knowledgeable and a good personality fit for me. I signed up for a 10 lesson package (including unlimited practice time).  It is not for the feint of wallet.

So far (3 lessons in) I have learned a lot about how I can improve and the practice time is really important to build the muscle memory to change.  The videos are crucial to see/hear about your flaws.  My coach is terrific, but frankly, I feel lucky to have him based on some of the other coaches I see at the facility.  Not sure how far I can go in terms of improvement with Golftec, but make no mistake - I will be an improved player.  I am getting better - no doubt.

We all have fantasies that the next new driver, irons, wedges, ______  (fill in the blank) will be "the difference" in our game, but all too often are we are swinging the next shiny thing with the same old swing.  It's fun, but somehow a little hollow.  I recall playing with a pro in Naples who was demoing the latest irons on the market.  I asked "how do you like 'em?"  He said "they are really nice....... but I can hit anything..."  Right then, it really hit me -- it's the swing stupid!  For me, Golftec has been great.  YMMV.

Definitely, the golf clubs these days are virtually all the same size, shape etc. Very unifrom now, within reason. Obviously, i mean blades are blades, GI clubs are GI clubs, all the same in each category. As long as they are fit to the individual, new clubs aren't going to change your swing for you.

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