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Ping IBlade vs Mizzi Mp 18 SC / MMC

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#1 SvenS3

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 11:44 AM

Hey Guys

I'm interested in the Ping IBlade or the Mizuno Mp18 SC maybe MMC Irons.

I want to play them with Modus 105 X straight in.

I only have the Iblade with DG S300 for Demo and not with the Modus. In the Mizzi I have the Modus with an MP64 Head so far.

What you Guys think, which one is more forgiving, feels better etc. ?

I will test them tomorrow on Flightscope. And hope to test the Modus with the SC and MMC Head at the Weekend.

Is there anybody who has hit both and can compare?

Thanks a lot

Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
4 Wood: Callaway Rogue 17 with Aldila Synergy 60
7 Wood: Ping G400 with Tour 75 Shaft or
4 Iron: ??
Irons: Ping iBlade 5-P with DG 105
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:12 PM

I own the iBlades with PX 6.5, they are not forged but the insert makes it feel softer at impact, the Mizuno's are going to be much softer, in terms of forgiveness the iBlades (I found) to be a bit more forgiving since the blade itself is a bit larger and it does help in missed shots, just my findings...that said we are all different so they may feel much different to you...hope this helped a bit...
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:15 PM

Mizuno MP-18 are really nice, don't get me wrong. However, I actually prefer the looks, feel and performance of the Iblades.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:17 PM

I tested the Iblades last year for around 20 Balls on the Range. They felt good, but the DG S300 is not my favorite Shaft, its a little heavy for me.

I played the Mizuno MP5 before and want a little bit more forgiveness on the "off" days. I bought Srixon Z565, but it was a mistake, working the Ball is pretty hart with these Irons.

So I narrowed it down to those 2 Irons
Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
4 Wood: Callaway Rogue 17 with Aldila Synergy 60
7 Wood: Ping G400 with Tour 75 Shaft or
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Irons: Ping iBlade 5-P with DG 105
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:21 PM

Since I have owned the iBlades (with AWT 2.0x) and MP-18 SC (with AMT S300) I can comment some on these. Without a doubt, both irons are great options, I would be happy playing either of them.  A couple points to coinsider..

- Mizuno MP-18 SC are forged irons and feel a touch better (softer)
- Mizuno MP-18 SC irons will more affordable as many sources don't adhere to the OEM pricing on them
- iBlades have a polymer insert in them, which is said to damper them

Both are equal in forgiveness IMHO, size wise they are about the same as well as any of them out there (see photo's..)

First photo; z945, XTD Forged, 716 AP2, iBlade, MP-18 SC (left to right..)
Second photo;  MP-18 SC, 716 AP2, XTD Forged, z945, iBlade (left to right)

Edited by cadman88, 11 January 2018 - 12:23 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:05 PM

Can you tell me something about the AWT 2.0 Shafts?

Did you notice much of the weight difference from the long to the short Irons?
Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
4 Wood: Callaway Rogue 17 with Aldila Synergy 60
7 Wood: Ping G400 with Tour 75 Shaft or
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:12 PM

I've had both and I am probably going back to iblades. SCs are nice and they feel great, i just prefer the feel of the iblade for some reason. Plus the perform, and are my favorite looking iron ever.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:23 PM

Looking at those pics., sure got my attention. I am considering the MP18MB/SC and iBlades & i200s. Looks like the iBlades might be the winner for me on blade length?! Further testing is required. ;)
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:10 PM

View PostSvenS3, on 11 January 2018 - 01:05 PM, said:

Can you tell me something about the AWT 2.0 Shafts?

Did you notice much of the weight difference from the long to the short Irons?

I couldn't tell the differences in weight at all, I know that the Ping AWT and the Dynamic Gold AMT weights are both ramped in weight thru-out the set. I actually did a static measurement of assembled irons with AWT 2.0x's and AMT X100's and both sets were remarkably close.. with my cheap kitchen digital scale they were within 2-3 grams iron for iron thru-out the 4-PW sets.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:15 PM

Thanks for your Feedback.

Any other comparisons between those two Irons? Maybe with the 718CB as well

Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
4 Wood: Callaway Rogue 17 with Aldila Synergy 60
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4 Iron: ??
Irons: Ping iBlade 5-P with DG 105
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:23 PM

PING iBlade is never a bad choice. SRiXON Z 745 would be another great forged CB, and they have tungsten in the toe similar iBlade.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:58 PM

I played the Srixon Z745 with Modus 105 in Stiff before. I only sold them because someone paid me a price I cannot refuse.

I tested the new Z765 and I could not make solid contact. The 565 was better.

But I want to go back to cavity Backs, because working the Ball is easier.

The only Irons I'm interested in are the IBlades, the MP18 SC and the Titleist CB.

So I'm looking for comparisons between them. Maybe some is a little more forgiving on thin hits or one groove low.
Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
4 Wood: Callaway Rogue 17 with Aldila Synergy 60
7 Wood: Ping G400 with Tour 75 Shaft or
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Irons: Ping iBlade 5-P with DG 105
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 06:58 PM

I hit all 3 of those a couple weeks back, I was very impressed with the iBlade. It felt forgiving but true and my dispersion was the best with it. I hadn't even considered them but the guy handed it to me and said try it so I did. Great club. The Mp18 is nice b/c of its buttery feel but it was shorter and more erratic for me. My first set of clubs were Titleists so I want to love their irons but for whatever reason I don't hit them very well so those were a distant 3rd.

My only fear with the iBlades is that maybe they're a bit too hot and on flyer lies they might get a little crazy and hard to control the distance which is hard to test in the sim.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:47 PM

We sound like similar players. I am reading this thread with interest as these are three great irons. Completely agree with OP on the Srixon 545/565 -- too clunky to work them and I thought the sole was too wide and bouncey. Most surprising photo above is how wide the sole is even on the 945. But I own the 965 and it plays super. Most forgiving muscleback I've played.

But this is a tough call. MP18, iBlade and 718CB are so pretty. And the 718 CB construction is not like the 716 and has distance and forgiveness not previously seen in this line. I hit the iBlade last sunmer, but only with the DGS300, and did not hit it all that well. Now that I am used to the 115g PX, I could not get on with the heavier one. (Also like C Taper Lite X flex, softstepped.

I am over a back injury now and swinging better, got my handicap to 8 last summer. Would like to try an iBlade wiith a different shaft because I hit the MP18 SC fine and same with the 965. Posted some great rounds with both. Seems to be no reason I could not hit the iBlade. I definitely want to swing the Titleist 718CB -- it looks nice and they added some tech. Love the look of it more than the AP2.
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:30 AM

Thats crazy with Titleist.

I played ap2 712 and 714 for a very long Time (for me :-) )Than I tested the 716 AP 2 and found it awful, but the 716 CB was super nice, but I went with the MP5.

Are you serious that the 718 CB is even better than the 716 CB (which was great vom 5-P)?

I´m more interessted in the forgiveness of these 3 Heads for the Days when my tempo is not good and I began to hit it 1-2 Grooves low.

Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:09 AM

"Forgiveness" is going to be nearly non existent between any of the irons that have been mentioned.
Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:03 AM

Yes, I think so.

You don't need much forgiveness if you are a good Iron Player. But the Question is the same, which if those Heads is more forgiving on thin shoots, or 1-2 Grooves low?

They aren't as forgiving as a GI Iron, but a GI Iron is not workable for me. Its hard to hit a draw or Fade with it.
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:05 AM

Went to demo these irons in the sim. yesterday. I hit the iBlades 1 club further vs. MP18s. i200s are 1/2 club longer vs. iBlades for me. For the size of blade, very impressed with iBlades 'forgiveness', fat, thin, toe strikes. Love the Modus 105 shaft!
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:44 AM

Cant go wrong with Iblades. Just good all around club
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:13 PM

Golf64 , what Modus do you hit? X or S

And how long do you hit the Irons at what Swingspeed ? (Carry)

Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:50 PM

I was able to get an Blade Iron (blue dot, DG S 300) for testing and went immediately in my Sim on the Flightscope. So I have only limited Results and no real Ballflight on the Range.

I tested some old Irons from me as well:

- Srixon 565 Modus 120 S
- Cobra Amp Cell Pro DG S300
- Honma TW 727 VN Nippon 1050 S
- IBlade DG S300
- Mizuno MP64 Modus 105 X

I started with the Iblade without a real warm up. I had to adjust a little to the feel of the Head. Once it was done, it felt really solid. Not as soft as all the others but good. I have no complaints here.
The Dispersion was really good and the numbers were consistent. I hit the Iblade the best, contact wise. No fat Shots. I tried to hitting 1-2 Grooves low because that is my typical miss.

All I can say is WOW !!! That thing just went straight and has only little distance loose. 5-8 Yards. (As I mentioned only Flightscope Indoor, so take the Results for what its worth.
The IBlade is way more forgiving than the MP64 and the ACP. With the MP64 its not even close, like Hardcore Blade to very forgiving CB.

The ACP as well is not so forgiving as the IBlade. You could easily notice the Difference.

My only complaints are the DG S300. It is to heavy for me and I know that. So I hope that I can get the same or even better results with a Shaft that matches me better.
And of course I hope its not only honeymoon :-).

I will test the Iron at the Range on Sunday and for the next two weeks. Than I decide if I try the Titleist AP2/CB.

But from todays testing I have to say that I don't know what could be better (instead of the Shafts). I'm absolutely happy with the Results that the IBlade is producing if I hit my typical miss 1-2 Grooves low.
Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:56 PM

Even if the differences between them are small, I would think the iBlade is most forgiving, followed by MP18 MMC and then the 718 CB due to more perimeter weighting and milled pocket in 2-7, but only a slight forgiveness edge over the MP18 SC. The iBlade wins on slightly larger blade with perimeter weighting. I also love the CTP on the Ping irons.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:01 AM

Great thread, lots of good info and opinions.  I'd be trying to find a set of Bridgestone J15 CB's to the OP though.  Not just because that's what I am playing, but I think they would be right up your alley.  You may be able to find them with the Modus 105 also if that is what you are keyed in on.  They have it all my friend, with a nice simple/traditional look, forgiveness is absolutely there, distance as well, not to mention consistency.   They hide the tech well, don't worry about the sole width, once you hit them, it will be an after thought.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:45 AM

This thread just sniffs out the Ping homers, while Mizzy players won’t really respond because of the cast vs Forged debate that pretty much ends all discussions like this from a Mizzy player perspective.

Have to appreciate brand loyalty, I used to be the same way until Titleist screwed up the AP2 on the 716 line....glad to see they’re making their way back but now they’ve priced themselves out of the market for myself.

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#25 SvenS3

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:32 AM

I can't hear the Cast VS Forged debate anymore.

I´m a long time mizuno Player and own many sets of them. And don't know what all of you Guys feel, but everyone that tells me, that a Mizuno Iron is pure Butter never hit Epons or Miuras. Even the Titleist 716 CB with PXI was way softer than all Mizuno Irons I ever have/had.

For me there is no Room for discussions, or other opinions. Sorry to be this Guy, but believe me I own/owned nearly 25 Sets of Irons and the only Mizuno Iron which are really soft was the MP32. All the others are not soft. I would describe them as "solid", but not soft.

If you haven't hit an Epon with a matching Shaft, you don't know what a soft Iron feels like. Or try Titleist 716CB with PXI Shaft and see that especially this Combo is in another ballpark than the Mizuno "soft" feel.

I hate to say that, because I love Mizuno and played them for the most Time of my Life (Second Titleist Ap2 Range), but please come down from the whole forged blablablabla butter blablabla feel.

If you middle the club nearly all clubs will feel good, if not you have a swing Problem.

Edited by SvenS3, 13 January 2018 - 03:58 AM.

Driver: Callaway Rogue Draw 10.5 with Oban Devotion 65 04 Shaft
4 Wood: Callaway Rogue 17 with Aldila Synergy 60
7 Wood: Ping G400 with Tour 75 Shaft or
4 Iron: ??
Irons: Ping iBlade 5-P with DG 105
Wedges: Ping Glide 2.0 50/54/60 with DG 105
Putter: Evnroll ER2 CS

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:05 AM

Ahhh...and there the thread goes... off into the weeds of the cast vs forged debate.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:39 AM

View Postpjc, on 13 January 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

Great thread, lots of good info and opinions.  I'd be trying to find a set of Bridgestone J15 CB's to the OP though.  Not just because that's what I am playing, but I think they would be right up your alley.  You may be able to find them with the Modus 105 also if that is what you are keyed in on.  They have it all my friend, with a nice simple/traditional look, forgiveness is absolutely there, distance as well, not to mention consistency.   They hide the tech well, don't worry about the sole width, once you hit them, it will be an after thought.

To me the sole on the Bridgestones is a real plus. It does not 'play wide,' at all, goes right through the turf, but very stable. The actual bounce is not high as a Ping iron but the width gives it the same benefit without being high bounce.
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Wilson Staff C300 Forged irons, 4-PW, Nippon Modus 105 X shafts
Mizuno S5 gap wedge, 50.08, Nippon 1150 GH Tour shaft
Wilson Staff PMP Tour wedge, 56 degree, tour grind, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 shaft
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:43 AM

View Postmagnus7319, on 13 January 2018 - 09:05 AM, said:

Ahhh...and there the thread goes... off into the weeds of the cast vs forged debate.

No debate for me. I don't want a soft club, I prefer solid. But I do believe the part of 'feel' most people assign to the manufacturing process is really the combination of shaft, type of ball, type of grip, sole grind and sound. I think the clubface itself has the least to do with it.
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Callaway Rogue driver, 9 degree, Project X Evenflow Blue S, 75g.
Callaway XR16 3 wood, 15 degree, Fukijura Evo II shaft
Callaway Apex hybrid, 20 degree, Kuro Kage 80HY stiff shaft
Wilson Staff C300 Forged irons, 4-PW, Nippon Modus 105 X shafts
Mizuno S5 gap wedge, 50.08, Nippon 1150 GH Tour shaft
Wilson Staff PMP Tour wedge, 56 degree, tour grind, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 shaft
Fourteen RM12 58.12 sand wedge, Dynamic Gold wedge shaft
Edel Rogue putter (thick blade), 34 inch, 71 degree lie, 2 degrees loft.
COMING: TaylorMade Hi-Toe wedge, 60 degree

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:04 AM

View PostSvenS3, on 12 January 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

Golf64 , what Modus do you hit? X or S

And how long do you hit the Irons at what Swingspeed ? (Carry)
Was hitting the S. Swing speed ranged from 75-80MPH. 53, old out of shape. Might go Regs. to get more height and spin?!
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:30 AM

I have iBlades now and just ordered a split set of Fli-Hi (3-4) SC (5-7) and MP 18 (8-PW).

I really love the iBlades...for the category, very forgiving, high launching...super thin face and the elastomer in the cavity makes for  a very soft sound.

Here's what I've noticed on a launch monitor between SC and iBlade...
Both SUPER solid irons and great feel (slight edge to SC for sound/feel...just has that forged sound/feel...iBlade feels like there's not even a ball there when you pure it (but when you miss it, you feel it).

SC was more consistent in carry distances for me. iBlade was still pretty consistent, but every once in a while, I'd carry one five or six yards farther than the rest. With SC, that just doesn't seem to happen.

Both great sticks, though. I'll hang on to the iBlades because I'm sure I'll likely want to play them some more.

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