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#1 Sean2

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:45 AM

We have a heated bays at our facility, and during the winter one of the things I like to do occasionally is after I have warmed up I will “play” 18 holes. For example, I will pick a course I am familiar with take a driver, hit my tee shot, estimate how far I have to the hole, pick an iron I need to get to the “green” and hit that shot (I will pick a flag on the range). If I make the “green" I will take out my putter and putt to one of the holes in the shed the distance I think I am from the hole. If I miss the green I will estimate how far I have to the pin and hit a chip or pitch to a spot in front of me. If I get it close I will take the one putt, if not, I will estimate how far I have to the hole and putt to a hole in the shed from that distance.

What I like about this is that it gives me the opportunity to hit every club in my bag, and most importantly it simulates course conditions…no do overs…so it “forces” me to hit a good shot, as opposed to not hitting a good shot, and just dropping another ball and hitting it again.


I find it makes the range session a bit more fun.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:52 AM

Do yourself a favour and go buy a SkyTrak :)

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:59 AM

 GMR, on 11 January 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Do yourself a favour and go buy a SkyTrak :)

I would love to! But, the ceilings in my house are only eight feet, and I can touch those without standing on my toes. lol
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:04 AM

 Sean2, on 11 January 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

 GMR, on 11 January 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Do yourself a favour and go buy a SkyTrak :)

I would love to! But, the ceilings in my house are only eight feet, and I can touch those without standing on my toes. lol
Guess you just need a new house then!

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:06 AM

Obviously this has long been recommended as a way of bringing your range game to the course, and I have tried it often, but for some reason this doesn’t do it for me.  About the second or third “hole”, I lose interest and just start hitting random shots/clubs.  Better for me to just change clubs often and hit to varying targets that I can actually see.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:06 AM

 GMR, on 11 January 2018 - 10:04 AM, said:

 Sean2, on 11 January 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

 GMR, on 11 January 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Do yourself a favour and go buy a SkyTrak :)

I would love to! But, the ceilings in my house are only eight feet, and I can touch those without standing on my toes. lol
Guess you just need a new house then!

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:10 AM

Now that's the spirit!!!

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:13 AM

 stryper, on 11 January 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

Obviously this has long been recommended as a way of bringing your range game to the course, and I have tried it often, but for some reason this doesn’t do it for me.  About the second or third “hole”, I lose interest and just start hitting random shots/clubs.  Better for me to just change clubs often and hit to varying targets that I can actually see.

I have been doing it a while as well, and some folks I know who have tried it said the same thing as you. I can see every target, and I like the idea of "playing" golf. Sure I can hit different clubs to different targets on the range, and I do so, but I also want to mimic playing golf as much as I can. We always hear: "How come I hit the ball great on the range, but not on the course?"
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:16 PM

LOL, I did a similar thing last week.

I used my swing x swing app to preview each hole I was going to play in a few days and imagined the shots I'll be play per club. I know how far I hit my drive minus 10 yards cause of the weather, and use the app to see how far I have to go for the green or laying up.

I try to match the location for each shot to whatever I did at the range. If I miss hit at the range and go 125 yards instead of 147 with my 7i, I'd set up the distance on my app where I landed 125. The app shows current wind and elevation which I take notice too.

I didn't do all 18 holes, just 9. It got too cold.....

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:37 PM

 jamxray, on 11 January 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

LOL, I did a similar thing last week.

I used my swing x swing app to preview each hole I was going to play few days before and imagined the shots I'll be play per club. I know how far I hit my drive minus 10 yards cause of the weather, and use the app to see how far I have to go for the green or laying up.

I try to match the location for each shot to whatever I did at the range. If I miss hit at the range and go 125 yards instead of 147 with my 7i, I'd set up the distance on my app where I landed 125. The app shows current wind and elevation which I take notice too.

I didn't do all 18 holes, just 9. It got too cold.....

Yes, I think it's a good exercise, because you also have to think your way around the "course". For example, I may have a drive between two pins on the range, the space between which is quite narrow...if I miss the "fairway" I end up in a "hazard". Do I use driver, or another club? Or, what club do I hit on my approach? If the "green" is surrounded by "hazards", I may take one more club, knowing if I flush it I am on the back of the "green", but if I miss hit it just a bit I end up on the front of the "green" as opposed to ending up in the hazard.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:43 PM

I have tried "playing a round" with my home course in mind, but inevitably I hit an errant shot that would be "in the trees" and give myself a mulligan, which defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.  It goes downhill from there and I go back to whatever I was working on before the stupid idea of "playing a round" came to mind.  :russian_roulette:
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:51 PM

Unless you're working on your swing, practice should always be as game-like as possible.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 04:01 PM

I do it all the time Sean. I may not "play 18" but at least 9. On another note, I hope you know I had to grab my glasses to read your OP and I know you did that micro-font thing on purpose.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 04:18 PM

I play my home course on the range all the time.  It’s the best practice for me.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 04:59 PM

 Sean2, on 11 January 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

 jamxray, on 11 January 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

LOL, I did a similar thing last week.

I used my swing x swing app to preview each hole I was going to play few days before and imagined the shots I'll be play per club. I know how far I hit my drive minus 10 yards cause of the weather, and use the app to see how far I have to go for the green or laying up.

I try to match the location for each shot to whatever I did at the range. If I miss hit at the range and go 125 yards instead of 147 with my 7i, I'd set up the distance on my app where I landed 125. The app shows current wind and elevation which I take notice too.

I didn't do all 18 holes, just 9. It got too cold.....

Yes, I think it's a good exercise, because you also have to think your way around the "course". For example, I may have a drive between two pins on the range, the space between which is quite narrow...if I miss the "fairway" I end up in a "hazard". Do I use driver, or another club? Or, what club do I hit on my approach? If the "green" is surrounded by "hazards", I may take one more club, knowing if I flush it I am on the back of the "green", but if I miss hit it just a bit I end up on the front of the "green" as opposed to ending up in the hazard.

One hole, I believe it was the 3rd hole, a par 5 that was a slight dog leg with a big pond guarding part of the green, to the whole green - depended where you were on the fairway. Plus, bunkers on the other side and behind the green. Because I used the app at the range, I replayed that hole three times. I took note of a huge tree and the left side bunker on the fairway as my targets areas for my second shot. Hoping to set up my 3rd shot to take most of the water out of play. Well it worked that day and made par.

Too bad the back 9, which I didn't practice for, didn't go so good...... oh well, it's a learning experience....

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 05:05 PM

I've done this for many, many years at the end of a practice session, but the key point, I think, is that you shouldn't ever hit more than 4 or 5 shots with the same club without changing.

I say this because it is possible to "groove", at least to some extent, even a bad swing, and switching clubs frequently lessens that effect.  I was a HS basketball coach, and a similar approach is used in free throw shooting; shooting 10 in a row isn't necessarily good practice because a player can groove a stroke that won't hold up under pressure.  Most coaches have players shoot one-and-one, or just one, with running involved at in-season practices to simulate a game.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 06:03 PM

 Sean2, on 11 January 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

 GMR, on 11 January 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Do yourself a favour and go buy a SkyTrak :)

I would love to! But, the ceilings in my house are only eight feet, and I can touch those without standing on my toes. lol

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 06:06 PM

I think that's a very cool idea I would like to try this myself. Makes perfect sense as you need to visualize the shots. Heck if you play the course enough you will know what tree you just hit! BB
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 06:43 PM

 arbitrage, on 11 January 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

I have tried "playing a round" with my home course in mind, but inevitably I hit an errant shot that would be "in the trees" and give myself a mulligan, which defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.  It goes downhill from there and I go back to whatever I was working on before the stupid idea of "playing a round" came to mind.  :russian_roulette:

does it defeat the purpose? how? punch one out of “the trees” and carry on. take your “drop” and carry on.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 07:32 PM

 ruffellprefley, on 11 January 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

 arbitrage, on 11 January 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

I have tried "playing a round" with my home course in mind, but inevitably I hit an errant shot that would be "in the trees" and give myself a mulligan, which defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.  It goes downhill from there and I go back to whatever I was working on before the stupid idea of "playing a round" came to mind.  :russian_roulette:

does it defeat the purpose? how? punch one out of “the trees” and carry on. take your “drop” and carry on.

Well, if you’re punching out of trees, and there are no real trees in the way, you are essentially punching out of nothing.  Even the most vivid imagination will not concoct a tree that will deflect a misplayed punch out.  So I understand arbit’s point.

But I also understand the value of this sort of practice; it just doesn’t work for Me.  For my time, I’m better off doing some Adam Young type stuff—intentional mishits, toe and heel shots, finding the low spot from different ball positions...basically just playing with different ways of hitting a golf ball.  (I’m not really doing his ideas justice, but a little research will get you there.)  

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:29 PM

 stryper, on 11 January 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

 ruffellprefley, on 11 January 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

 arbitrage, on 11 January 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

I have tried "playing a round" with my home course in mind, but inevitably I hit an errant shot that would be "in the trees" and give myself a mulligan, which defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.  It goes downhill from there and I go back to whatever I was working on before the stupid idea of "playing a round" came to mind.  :russian_roulette:

does it defeat the purpose? how? punch one out of “the trees” and carry on. take your “drop” and carry on.

Well, if you’re punching out of trees, and there are no real trees in the way, you are essentially punching out of nothing.  Even the most vivid imagination will not concoct a tree that will deflect a misplayed punch out.  So I understand arbit’s point.

But I also understand the value of this sort of practice; it just doesn’t work for Me.  For my time, I’m better off doing some Adam Young type stuff—intentional mishits, toe and heel shots, finding the low spot from different ball positions...basically just playing with different ways of hitting a golf ball.  (I’m not really doing his ideas justice, but a little research will get you there.)  

Different things work for different people.  :dntknw:

so just assume that your punch out made it through. I mean, does it totally negate any benefits of doing this sort of practice? no. it’s silly to think that because you can’t replicate a mess up recovery that you should just give up on the method.

the practice is hitting driver then 7 iron, then chipping, then 3 wood then PW. then 8 iron... instead of banging away at a 6 iron 20 times in a row which is something even the worst golfer wouldn’t do on course.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:40 PM

 arbitrage, on 11 January 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

I have tried "playing a round" with my home course in mind, but inevitably I hit an errant shot that would be "in the trees" and give myself a mulligan, which defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.  It goes downhill from there and I go back to whatever I was working on before the stupid idea of "playing a round" came to mind.  :russian_roulette:

Lol! No mulligans! :-)
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:41 PM

 tmartin89, on 11 January 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

Unless you're working on your swing, practice should always be as game-like as possible.

I agree and that is what I am looking to do.
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:42 PM

 nitram, on 11 January 2018 - 04:01 PM, said:

I do it all the time Sean. I may not "play 18" but at least 9. On another note, I hope you know I had to grab my glasses to read your OP and I know you did that micro-font thing on purpose.

Ha! No I didn't...I was as surprised as you when I saw that. lol
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:44 PM

 bluedot, on 11 January 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

I've done this for many, many years at the end of a practice session, but the key point, I think, is that you shouldn't ever hit more than 4 or 5 shots with the same club without changing.

I say this because it is possible to "groove", at least to some extent, even a bad swing, and switching clubs frequently lessens that effect.  I was a HS basketball coach, and a similar approach is used in free throw shooting; shooting 10 in a row isn't necessarily good practice because a player can groove a stroke that won't hold up under pressure.  Most coaches have players shoot one-and-one, or just one, with running involved at in-season practices to simulate a game.

I agree. I found that hitting the same club over and over and over again I will eventually groove my swing with that club. I like to mix it up as well and won't take more than ten shots with any particular club...unless it's short game practice as I may be hitting different kinds of shots to different yardages.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:45 PM

 Hawkeye77, on 11 January 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

 Sean2, on 11 January 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

 GMR, on 11 January 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Do yourself a favour and go buy a SkyTrak :)

I would love to! But, the ceilings in my house are only eight feet, and I can touch those without standing on my toes. lol

Gandalf!

Ha! Too funny. :-)
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:53 AM

 ruffellprefley, on 11 January 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

 stryper, on 11 January 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

 ruffellprefley, on 11 January 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

 arbitrage, on 11 January 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

I have tried "playing a round" with my home course in mind, but inevitably I hit an errant shot that would be "in the trees" and give myself a mulligan, which defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.  It goes downhill from there and I go back to whatever I was working on before the stupid idea of "playing a round" came to mind.  :russian_roulette:

does it defeat the purpose? how? punch one out of “the trees” and carry on. take your “drop” and carry on.

Well, if you’re punching out of trees, and there are no real trees in the way, you are essentially punching out of nothing.  Even the most vivid imagination will not concoct a tree that will deflect a misplayed punch out.  So I understand arbit’s point.

But I also understand the value of this sort of practice; it just doesn’t work for Me. For my time, I’m better off doing some Adam Young type stuff—intentional mishits, toe and heel shots, finding the low spot from different ball positions...basically just playing with different ways of hitting a golf ball.  (I’m not really doing his ideas justice, but a little research will get you there.)  

Different things work for different people.  :dntknw:

so just assume that your punch out made it through. I mean, does it totally negate any benefits of doing this sort of practice? no. it’s silly to think that because you can’t replicate a mess up recovery that you should just give up on the method.

the practice is hitting driver then 7 iron, then chipping, then 3 wood then PW. then 8 iron... instead of banging away at a 6 iron 20 times in a row which is something even the worst golfer wouldn’t do on course.

I don’t think we have a disagreement here.
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:54 AM

Off topic - but when I have trouble sleeping, I close my eyes and play a round on my home course in my head - i've never got past the 3rd hole.  And i always start birdie birdie too :)

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:11 PM

 pmadden86, on 12 January 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

Off topic - but when I have trouble sleeping, I close my eyes and play a round on my home course in my head - i've never got past the 3rd hole.  And i always start birdie birdie too :)

I have done that as well. I play my best golf that way. lol
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:19 PM

I do this but only drive and approach.  Keep track of fairways hit and GIR. I don't do the chip and putt which is probably a mistake. I find that I take my on course game to the driving range most of the time.  FW hit and GIR typically mirror my on course performance, I suck.

I have a golfing buddy that meets me at the range sometimes so with 18 balls left each we play a 9 hole comp.  It's complete with 2 PAR 3, long and short and 2 PAR 5 that requires a 3W lay up on the FW and a 50yd pitch if 3W hits FW.

On the PAR 4 If you miss the fairway you have to hit to a green about 175 out.  Hit the fairway you get a green about 145 out.  

Most GIR wins.  That adds some pressure.  We are pretty much tied with wins.  We both suck.


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