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GGSWINGTIPS and GEORGE GANKAS BUYER BEWARE!! (MERGED)

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#151 GoIrish17

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:07 PM

“Due to the nature of my business relationship with Andrew Fischer, the owner and operator of ggswingtips.com, my hands have been tied.“ Geez, what kind of “business relationship” do you enter in to where you essentially have no control over the use of your name, likeness, reputation, etc.? Drugs? Gambling debt? Naked pictures?

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:19 PM

 GoIrish17, on 11 February 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

“Due to the nature of my business relationship with Andrew Fischer, the owner and operator of ggswingtips.com, my hands have been tied.“ Geez, what kind of “business relationship” do you enter in to where you essentially have no control over the use of your name, likeness, reputation, etc.? Drugs? Gambling debt? Naked pictures?
Judging by the few mins I have seen of him teaching, the d word you mention would be my guess.  The guy comes off a bit phony IMO and uses big words to seem impressive.

OP why did you post it twice?  Can't you delete one?
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:21 PM

ive got nothing invested in this but sounds like George is admitting there was a problem with how the site was treating customers and excludes himself from any involvement, so was it him who cussed out the OP via message?

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:27 PM

this sounds like a bit of a mess. hope all parties get this sorted out to avoid any future problems.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:51 PM

On instagram George has announced he's cut all ties to ggswingtips.com due to ongoing complaints and his lack of control of the domain, billing, and customer service.

Here is his open letter commenting on the ongoing problems he's had and his plans for the future.

https://georgegankas.golf/open-letter

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:38 PM

 moonshine, on 11 February 2018 - 12:19 PM, said:

 GoIrish17, on 11 February 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

“Due to the nature of my business relationship with Andrew Fischer, the owner and operator of ggswingtips.com, my hands have been tied.“ Geez, what kind of “business relationship” do you enter in to where you essentially have no control over the use of your name, likeness, reputation, etc.? Drugs? Gambling debt? Naked pictures?
Judging by the few mins I have seen of him teaching, the d word you mention would be my guess.  The guy comes off a bit phony IMO and uses big words to seem impressive.

OP why did you post it twice?  Can't you delete one?

I wasn't familiar with the posting procedure when I made the posts in different forum sections. They are merged now

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:41 PM

 DFinch, on 11 February 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

On instagram George has announced he's cut all ties to ggswingtips.com due to ongoing complaints and his lack of control of the domain, billing, and customer service.

Here is his open letter commenting on the ongoing problems he's had and his plans for the future.

https://georgegankas.golf/open-letter

How can we be sure that's from George though? Jk

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:48 PM

^He made an Instagram video stating so. I viewed this from a friend's account since I have him blocked after he cussed me out through personal message. Andrew Fischer is a total snake, but George's past actions don't show him in a much better light in my opinion. If he is truly turning over a new leaf and creating a page without deception, that is great. Although I have my doubts, as he hasn't reached out to me yet to apologize for his actions towards me (he has me email address, so he has a way of reaching me).

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:36 PM

Personally, I’d stay away from both sites and wouldn’t give either my money.
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:51 PM

 Longshot400, on 11 February 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

^He made an Instagram video stating so. I viewed this from a friend's account since I have him blocked after he cussed me out through personal message. Andrew Fischer is a total snake, but George's past actions don't show him in a much better light in my opinion. If he is truly turning over a new leaf and creating a page without deception, that is great. Although I have my doubts, as he hasn't reached out to me yet to apologize for his actions towards me (he has me email address, so he has a way of reaching me).

So you blocked him but you're still viewing his videos from a friend's account...no offense, but it sounds like a bad breakup.

Time to move on. There's no apology coming, and there are plenty of online swing coaches in the sea.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:17 PM

 straightshot7, on 11 February 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Longshot400, on 11 February 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

^He made an Instagram video stating so. I viewed this from a friend's account since I have him blocked after he cussed me out through personal message. Andrew Fischer is a total snake, but George's past actions don't show him in a much better light in my opinion. If he is truly turning over a new leaf and creating a page without deception, that is great. Although I have my doubts, as he hasn't reached out to me yet to apologize for his actions towards me (he has me email address, so he has a way of reaching me).

So you blocked him but you're still viewing his videos from a friend's account...no offense, but it sounds like a bad breakup.

Time to move on. There's no apology coming, and there are plenty of online swing coaches in the sea.

Lol. It does. I think we both have each other blocked. I don't care much about the apology nor will I ever give him my business again, but I was stating that to show that he is probably not truly sorry for how his business has been run and is just making this post to save face.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:46 PM

Sorry but George should have been in control from the start. And apology is not just okay. A lot of people dumped money in his so called site to get better not to have it run by a third party when it sounded like her ran it. I didn’t spend much on his teaching so I’m not too worried about it all but it sounds like a deal gone bad on his end.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 08:50 PM

i joined the ggswingtips membership site a little over a year ago.  They were offering a $119 deal for the year and I liked George’s Instagram videos and thought he did well with his juniors so I figured it was a decent price.  I should have realized that it was a yearly subscription at the time, but I didn’t really think about it..

I spent a few hours on the site watching videos right after I signed up and then didn’t log in for a couple of weeks.  When I signed in again, they had changed their format and half of the videos were locked and inaccessible.  I didn’t log back in again and forgot all about it.  

A year later I got billed $119 again as a recurring charge without ever receiving a notification email or anything.  I emailed customer service, explained I didn’t realize it was a subscription, and asked that they cancel my account and refund the most recent charge.  They refused and I felt as if they were flippant about it so I got mad and we had a fairly unpleasant email exchange.  I’m in agreement with other posters that just because terms of service fine print says something doesn’t mean it’s ethical.  I dislike “gotcha” business and I would NEVER charge someone for something they didn’t want if the cancelation request was reasonable.  Admittedly, I was a bit of an a-hole and emailed them back and apologized after I calmed down.  I still expressed my desire to cancel and they did so and also upgraded me to a lifetime membership at no charge and unlocked all of the content.  I would still have rather cancelled and gotten my $120 back, but I felt like the outcome was fair.  

I’m just now learning that George wasn’t a part of the operation.  I think the site and George should have made that known from the beginning.  I do feel like that is false advertising and somewhat scammy.  I don’t know how much involvement George had, but he seems like a decent guy and a good teacher so I hope he’s being honest.  Memberships that people bought are kind of worthless now since he won’t be adding any new content...especially at over $400.

As a side note, what’s the deal with this Gabriel Writer guy?  He jumps from one project to the next, sets up an online pay site, then abandons it halfway through.  He’s just shady and I don’t know why teachers keep associating themselves with him and his tactics.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:58 PM

kywldcts1225, i had almost the same exact experience as you, check out the thread about about my own situation here:

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good for gg to cut ties with fish (his instagram is kinda ridiculous ).  hopefully gg's next endeavor is more successful and best of luck to him!

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:04 AM

 kywldcts1225, on 11 February 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

As a side note, what’s the deal with this Gabriel Writer guy?  He jumps from one project to the next, sets up an online pay site, then abandons it halfway through.  He’s just shady and I don’t know why teachers keep associating themselves with him and his tactics.

Just curious, what do you mean?  I heard the Fish guy was involved in GG and MTi, but is Gabe also involved in GG?

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:25 AM

Gabe and Fish handled the site together apparently
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:14 AM

 hlca, on 12 February 2018 - 12:04 AM, said:

 kywldcts1225, on 11 February 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

As a side note, what’s the deal with this Gabriel Writer guy?  He jumps from one project to the next, sets up an online pay site, then abandons it halfway through.  He’s just shady and I don’t know why teachers keep associating themselves with him and his tactics.

Just curious, what do you mean?  I heard the Fish guy was involved in GG and MTi, but is Gabe also involved in GG?

That’s my understanding.  I’ve seen a few GG videos where you catch a glimpse of Gabe holding a camera recording.  I think the Fishfit guy got involved with Gabe and then they both got involved with GG or something along those lines.  I’m not sure about the exact timeline, but Gabe definitely had his finger in the cookie jar at some point.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:32 AM

Tough situation and im' sure lesson learned for George.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:37 PM

 J13, on 12 February 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Tough situation and im' sure lesson learned for George.
Yea, boo hoo for poor George.  I hope he and the other folks choke on my money.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:28 AM

 Longshot400, on 11 February 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

 straightshot7, on 11 February 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Longshot400, on 11 February 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

^He made an Instagram video stating so. I viewed this from a friend's account since I have him blocked after he cussed me out through personal message. Andrew Fischer is a total snake, but George's past actions don't show him in a much better light in my opinion. If he is truly turning over a new leaf and creating a page without deception, that is great. Although I have my doubts, as he hasn't reached out to me yet to apologize for his actions towards me (he has me email address, so he has a way of reaching me).

So you blocked him but you're still viewing his videos from a friend's account...no offense, but it sounds like a bad breakup.

Time to move on. There's no apology coming, and there are plenty of online swing coaches in the sea.

Lol. It does. I think we both have each other blocked. I don't care much about the apology nor will I ever give him my business again, but I was stating that to show that he is probably not truly sorry for how his business has been run and is just making this post to save face.

I suspect a fair number of people here, if having had to deal with you the same way GG had to, would have cussed you out far worse.

And for what ? $56 ? You an cliffhanger are 2 peas in a pod and if given the choice, I, for one(?), wouldn't do business with either of you. Neither of you is worth the time or trouble,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, certainly not for $56. Come to me for a grand or 2 profit and maybe we could talk,,,,,,,,,,, ;)

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:05 AM

 nsxguy, on 13 February 2018 - 01:28 AM, said:

 Longshot400, on 11 February 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

 straightshot7, on 11 February 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Longshot400, on 11 February 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

^He made an Instagram video stating so. I viewed this from a friend's account since I have him blocked after he cussed me out through personal message. Andrew Fischer is a total snake, but George's past actions don't show him in a much better light in my opinion. If he is truly turning over a new leaf and creating a page without deception, that is great. Although I have my doubts, as he hasn't reached out to me yet to apologize for his actions towards me (he has me email address, so he has a way of reaching me).

So you blocked him but you're still viewing his videos from a friend's account...no offense, but it sounds like a bad breakup.

Time to move on. There's no apology coming, and there are plenty of online swing coaches in the sea.

Lol. It does. I think we both have each other blocked. I don't care much about the apology nor will I ever give him my business again, but I was stating that to show that he is probably not truly sorry for how his business has been run and is just making this post to save face.

I suspect a fair number of people here, if having had to deal with you the same way GG had to, would have cussed you out far worse.

And for what ? $56 ? You an cliffhanger are 2 peas in a pod and if given the choice, I, for one(?), wouldn't do business with either of you. Neither of you is worth the time or trouble,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, certainly not for $56. Come to me for a grand or 2 profit and maybe we could talk,,,,,,,,,,, ;)


And we’re how many pages in, and people still aren’t grasping that it doesn’t matter the dollar amount. I pray that you don’t own a business yourself nsx.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 10:37 AM

Has anyone signed up on the new site yet?
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 11:30 AM

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Has anyone signed up on the new site yet?

Id let the dust settle first.
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:10 PM

Phew. That took a few hours! Good entertainment though!

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:26 PM

 Redjeep83, on 11 February 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

ive got nothing invested in this but sounds like George is admitting there was a problem with how the site was treating customers and excludes himself from any involvement, so was it him who cussed out the OP via message?

He said that the Instagram account is run by him when he separated himself from Andrew Fischer, and he cussed me out over Instagram message. I received payment from George Gankas in PayPal within a minute of IG messaging him my email for PayPal. I'm quite confident that it was the real George who cussed me out.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:49 PM

just pay him 3-400 for a lesson, he will treat you real nice, like your best friend

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 02:14 AM

 augustgolf, on 10 January 2018 - 07:42 PM, said:

Over 20 years ago, I had "online" instruction figured out, but hesitated to go further with the concept, for reasons exactly like this.

OP, I hope that you get your issue resolved and get refunded. Since it appears that GG doesn't really "run" anything associated with his name, I would be willing to bet that the licensing arrangement keeps him from doing anything like issuing refunds, etc.

Again....I have no ax to grind against a fellow professional. I do have an ax to grind about the business practices of those who utilize the name of a respected professional, and do whatever they can to take in monies, but provide no real "product", no customer service, and certainly...no refunds.

Good luck...please keep us informed.


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Posted 24 February 2018 - 02:17 AM

Wait... so in 1998 you had “online” instruction figured out but you did nothing with it because...?

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