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RECAPS: The TaylorMade #TwistFaceExperience. 7 GolfWRX members visit The Kingdom for an exclusive M3/M4 driver fitting!

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:38 PM

**BELOW ARE RECAPS OF THE TRIP THAT HAPPENED LIVE, JANUARY 9-12, 2018**

GolfWRX and TaylorMade Golf are excited to announce the 2018 Driver Experience. 7 lucky members of GolfWRX to visit TaylorMade Golf for early access to TaylorMade’s new 2018 TaylorMade M3 / M4 drivers more than a month before they’re available at retail. They'll get to share their experience with the GolfWRX community before anyone else!

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Want to experience our latest innovation and have the same reactions that our athletes had when we first showed them this new technology? Come be the first to be fit into TaylorMade’s new 2018 drivers before they’re at retail by entering for this exclusive event.

Expect some surprises along the way, too. We don't want to spoil everything, but here's a general outline:

TENTATIVE SCHEDULE
1/10/18 – Travel to Carlsbad + meet & greet with Team TaylorMade
1/11/18 – 1:1 Driver fittings + campus tour & sneak peeks
1/12/18 – Golf outing and departure

THE ATTENDEES
7 GolfWRX members will be joining us on this experience.  They are: Thanks to everyone who applied.  Note one dropped last minute and we could not fill the spot in time.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:02 AM

Each GolfWRX member is posting their write-up of their fitting etc from the TaylorMade Twist Face Experience.  Below are some quick links to jump directly to them.

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GOLFWRX MEMBER #1
RonSwanson (Kenton)
BIO QUOTE
Currently a 2 handicap with swing speed bouncing around in the mid to upper 110s. I play about 20-30 rounds a year now that I’m married with a 2 year old son, but I did play competitive golf in my high school and college days.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
My last fitting was in April of last year and I was fit for an M1 440 9.5 w/ HZRDUS T1100 75 6.5 shaft. The driver I brought with me was a Ping G400 10* LST w/ Diamana B 70 X.
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
M3 9.5 with the AD BB 7x
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 1

GOLFWRX MEMBER #2
blink3665 (Tim)
BIO QUOTE
I finished last season as a 15.2 handicap.  I have a driver swing speed of between 90-95.  Name a swing flaw and I probably have it.  Over the top, early extension... those both describe me.  I have a slow tempo and transition.  I started playing golf about 6 years ago.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
Callaway XR16 stock Speeder 556 regular flex.  10.5* head set to 9.5* neutral setting.
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
Taylormade m4 with White Tie 55g Stiff flex.  9.5* head set to upright.
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 23

GOLFWRX MEMBER #3
scottaz (Scott)
BIO QUOTE
I finished this season as a 2.7. Putting and the short game are my strengths. My iron play is average. Driver ss is around 115-118. My normal miss is high toe and the left side of the course.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
PING G400 LST 8.5 on big minus. Kuro Kage Duel Core TX70 tipped ½”.  45.25”
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
TaylorMade M3 440 9>7.5. Fuji Atmos Black 8 TX tipped 1”. Both weights toe. 45.5”
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 24

GOLFWRX MEMBER #4
WHC888 (Calvin)
BIO QUOTE
Currently a 8 handicap with an average swing speed right around 100mph.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
Tour Issue 16' M2, 9.7* set @ LOWER setting w/ Graphite Design Tour AD GP 6s.
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
M3 440, 9* set @ 1 click before LOWER setting, moveable weight set at LOW & DRAW position w/ Graphite Design Tour AD TP 6s.
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 24

GOLFWRX MEMBER #5
dpb5031 (Dewey)
BIO QUOTE
Still feeling nifty for damned near fifty ;)!  Finished the season with a 2.2 GHIN index and won my club championship for the first time this year after being a member for 23 years. Enjoy a little action on the course and truly play gear that I find to work best for me.  Recently retired, I played over 100 rounds in 2017! My driver swing speed is ~110. My game is reasonably well-rounded with putting being a strength.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
Callaway Epic Sub Zero, 9 degrees, Standard Settings, Kuro Kage DC TiNi Silver Tour Stiff, 45.25" Length, GolfPride New Decade Black & White Grip
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
2018 M4 8.5 degrees, Standard "Neutral" Settings, Fujikura Pro 63 Tour Spec Stiff-Tipped 1", 45.25" Length, GolfPride New Decade Black & White Grip
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 26

GOLFWRX MEMBER #6
Cwing (Craig)
BIO QUOTE
Ended the season at 13.8 after starting the season at 12.1. I somehow developed a right to left ball flight that was sometime uncontrollable especially early in the season.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
Callaway Fusion in 10.5* w/Recoil 450ES F4 in 44.5” with 12 gram head wait played with head setting in standard neutral positions
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
TaylorMade M4 in 9.5* of loft turned up to the high setting with the Atmos 5 S-Stiff by Fujikura in 44.5*.
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 27

GOLFWRX MEMBER #7
Gamble Gamble (Chris)
BIO QUOTE
I finished my club’s tournament season as a 10.3, down from a 12.5 earlier in the year.  My full shot game is very temperamental and when I can avoid hooks I play towards the top of my range.  Typically my putting and short game are my strengths, but early in the season my chipping/pitching is very rusty.
PREVIOUS DRIVER
Ping G400 9* Tour ADDI 6X (I tinker between that and a Diamana 7X)
NEW TAYLORMADE DRIVER
TM M3 10* Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec 7X
WRITE-UP
TM Twist Face Experience Write-Up on Page 28

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:05 AM

The write ups posted so far have been fantastic and painted a perfect picture of the details of the trip. Really well done fellas. I was there and still found some new info in Calvin’s post. I know the membership appreciates his talent behind the camera as well. My sincere thanks to Jory, Ryan and the entire team at TaylorMade for their hospitality. The entire trip start to finish was top notch.

I tried to document my experience as it was happening, so I am going to keep this write up more equipment and fitting focused. Also, I believe I amone of the few that have received their Trackman data, so I wanted to get that up for the numbers guys.

My game and Driver:

Currently a 2 handicap with swing speed bouncing around in the mid to upper 110s. I play about 20-30 rounds a year now that I’m married with a 2 year old son, but I did play competitive golf in my high school and college days. I’ll post trackman data to give you guys a better idea, but if you’re curious my swing is also in the video from Calvin’s post (I’m the second guy from the right in the green shirt). I have played every 2016 and 2017 M1 and M2 driver (aside from the D-Type, which I still think is a good club) for at least a handful of rounds over the last couple years. I’ve had both retail and tour issue versions of most of them as well, so I feel like I have a solid knowledge of what a TM driver can/will do for me. Outside of TM, I’ve only gamed Ping drivers of the last several years. The driver I brought with me is a Ping G400 10* LST w/ Diamana B 70 X. Notice I did not say gamer. In full disclosure, I have never gamed this driver. In fact, I took the plastic off the head on the range at Aviara on Wednesday. I kind of blew up the top end of my golf back after my last round the first week of October and decided I wanted to try the G400 LST. I still don’t currently have a fairway wood.

My last fitting was in April of last year and I was fit for an M1 440 9.5 w/ HZRDUS T1100 75 6.5 shaft. I have the trackman data from the fitting to compare to the M3/M4 fitting. On perfect/very good strikes, the M1 440 was incredibly impressive, however with my practice time (none) it wasn’t as consistent as I needed it to be. I ended up playing most of the year with a M1 460 9.5 and experimented a little with the M2.

The Kingdom Fitting:

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I was matched up with Jason Werner for my fitting. Jory said he picked each fitter based on what he gathered from our game/setup/posts. Our personalities seemed similar and it things went smoothly. I started my warm up working through my bag as if I was playing a round. LW, PW, 7 irons and 3 irons. I wanted to make sure I was warm when I hit the G400 to give it a fair shake.  The G400 LST performed very well considering I was not fit for this driver. I had played similar set ups in the past with good results, so it wasn’t exactly blind but you get the idea. The first TM setup Jason put together for me was the M4 9.5 w/ Atmos Red 7x. The numbers were good, but the feel wasn’t there for me at all. I prefer more of a one piece feel. Any time I can sense the shaft loading at the top, it feels like it’s wrapping around my back and I have no control of the clubface whatsoever. Jason then switched in the Atmos Blue 7x. This felt better than the red, but still not what I was looking for at all. He mentioned again, that the numbers were good, but we could do a little better and we had to get the feel sorted out. The third setup I hit was the M4 9.5 w/ Tour AD BB 7x. After two shots, I turned and said it was by far the best feeling setup of the three so far and Jason replied, “good, because these are the best numbers we’ve had too”. I hit 5-8 more shots with this combo and we both knew it was going to be tough to beat.

I switched in an M3 9.5 with the AD BB 7x to make sure we had the right head. While I hit M3 well and I preferred the look slightly, the M4 consistently game me an extra 1-2 MPH ball speed and dispersion was slightly more consistent. I pulled in the M3 440 for a few swings toward the end, but fatigue was setting in a bit and I just wasn’t finding the sweet spot. I know golf isn’t standing there hitting 60 drivers in a row, but it made me think that toward the end of a round, it could be a little more work than I want to be doing.
Throughout the fitting we were aiming between two posts in the fence at the end of the Kingdom range. This “fairway” was about 20 yards wide, so if you were hitting it consistently, you knew you had a winner. There several strikes with the M4/BB combo that felt identical to some from the G400 that held a better line. Again, TwistFace is not a miracle cure-all, but I hit shots within 20 minutes of each other, with strikes that felt the same, react differently with the M4 vs the G400. It’s like a lot of guys have been saying. This isn’t going to put a really poor shot in the fairway, but I believe it may keep a couple balls out of the woods or keep you in the edge of the fairway and out of the second cut in a given round. This was especially true with the toe hook miss.

Final Build: M4 9.5, Tour AD BB 7x tipped 1". Set to standard loft, upright lie. Playing 45.5" at D4.

Trackman Data:

Kingdom Fitting

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Club Champion Fitting - 4.3.17 - for comparison

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As you can see, many of the numbers were very close with the M4 was marginally longer overall, but I would call it a wash in distance. However, the M4 was much more consistent than the G400 and had faster ball speeds. I would attribute that to the improvements TM has made in the engineering of the M4. In Bazzel’s presentation he showed the M4 sweet spot (the zone of at least .800 COR) was increased by 67% (if I remember correctly), with the majority of that increased area being higher and toward the heel and toe. The M4 wasn’t a monumental improvement for me if you look at the raw numbers, mainly because there was only so much improvement to be had. What the M4 did give me was more consistent ball speed, better dispersion as well as my longest drive of the day, I’ll certainly take that.

Another note, this was my first proper outdoor fitting and I don't think I'll be able to trust an indoor fitting again. The ability to see the actual ball flight is invaluable.

In my earlier “preview” fitting post, I mentioned an odd experience during the long drive contest. The full story is after our fittings, we had lunch and the driver I was fit with was disassembled as the TM crew were cleaning up the range. When it came time for me to hit, I grabbed a 9.5 M4 and popped the AD BB 7x in there and figured I would be good to go. We had 4 shots to get our longest and straightest drive. I hit my second shot as good as any during my fitting and Perry, who was running the Trackman, shouted out my distance. It was 20 yards short of my average in the fitting. I hit the next two in similar fashion with the same results. Perry said spin was up over 2700. I was suddenly VERY unsure about my fit. After we finished the contests, Jason came back over and talked with me and immediately set up another trackman and we started again. He assembled the driver and after about 10-12 balls, my averages were right back where they were at the end of the first fitting. I’m not sure what happened, I could have put the loft sleeve in incorrectly or used a weird ball or who knows, but I really appreciated Jason taking the time to go back through everything with me while everyone else had moved on. He told me to take it home, play with it and get back to him if there were any issues. Another testament to the pride these guys have in their work and the treatment you get at the Kingdom. I hit the driver really well on Friday at Aviara with the exception of two toe fades that still didn’t get me in any real trouble. I even kept up with Scott a few times. So as of now, I don’t have any complaints. I still have a T1100 65 6.5 with a TM tip, so I may play around with that as well once the season gets going.

Final Build: M4 9.5, Tour AD BB 7x tipped 1". Set to standard loft, upright lie. Playing 45.5" at D4.

Also, in my opinion, the looks and feel of the M4 are much improved over the ’17 M2. The shape seems slightly more pear shaped and less flat than the ’17 M2. I had two ’17 M2 heads that I simply couldn’t bring myself to play because of the sound. I never thought twice about the sound of the M4. While I didn’t have any M1s to compare to the M3, the sound and shape felt similar to me while the cosmetic changes are nice.

Misc Fitting:

After the driver fitting, we had some time before lunch so Jason went through some fairway woods and driving irons. I started with the M4 tour after talking to him about my previous woods and what I was looking for out of a fairway. The M4 has a great look, but I didn’t hit it as consistently as I would like. That may have been due to the stock shaft, since it’s a glued head and the aftermarket selection was limited. Jason then fit me in the M3 3HL and it was perfect. I ended up in the AD BB 8x .5” short of standard. Launch and spin were great and the shorter shaft gave me the consistency I was looking for. I was also fit in the P790 UDI with an AD DI hybrid shaft.

I am happy to answer questions anyone may have and I look forward to the replies picking apart my Trackman numbers.

Edited by RonSwanson, 17 January 2018 - 01:03 PM.

TaylorMade M3 460 9.5 - HZRDUS T1100 75 6.5
TaylorMade M3 3HL - HZRDUS T1100 85 6.5
TaylorMade UDI - 2 @ 19* - Project X LZ 6.5 Hardstepped
TaylorMade P750 4-6, P730 7-PW - Project X LZ 6.5 Hardstepped
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:11 AM

Still can't believe I've been selected for this.  I'm obviously thrilled and thankful to have been chosen!

We all head out for Carlsbad tomorrow morning but at this point we don't know much more than the basic itinerary described in the OP.  If past trips are any indication, Taylormade and GolfWRX will not disappoint!  Safe to say we're all dying with anticipation...

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2018 Taylormade M3 8.5 Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6x
Taylormade M2 Tour 15 Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 S
Kasco K2K 33 - UST Axivcore 65 Tour Green S
Ping G 22 Hybrid (2 flat) - Ping Tour 80 S
Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
Ping Glide 2.0 - SS 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
Taylormade Ho Toe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
Palmer AP30R putter (circa 1960s)
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:16 AM

Congrats guys!!!  Have fun!  A great experience with lasting friendships.

Hopefully your landing into SD airport goes more smoothly than mine did!  lol....

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:19 AM

Congrats guys. Looking forward to following along
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:26 AM

Can't wait to hear all about it. Will be following along from frozen PA.  Congrats Scott!

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:28 AM

Can't wait!!

Thanks again to GWRX and TaylorMade!

We've been communicating for a bit now and it seems like a great group.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:32 AM

congrats boys - have too much fun !

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:33 AM

Man, what an awesome experience! Congrats to the winners!

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:35 AM

looking forward to reading about the fun!

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:37 AM

Following along and hella jealous!  Congrats!!!

LOTS AND LOTS OF PICS PLZ!!!
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:43 AM

We're past all embargo dates, so nothing is off limits.

If anyone is looking for anything specific, let us know.
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TM M3 15 Fuji Atmos Black 9tx tipped 1"
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:43 AM

Kickoff 2018 with a BANG !! Thanks GolfWRX and TaylorMade Golf for this.

Edited by WHC888, 09 January 2018 - 10:45 AM.

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Taylormade M4 Tour 3 Wood 15* w/ Tour AD IZ 6s
Taylormade P790 3 - 4 Irons KBS FLT
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NIKE OVEN  Prototype 1/1 Long Slant Neck 006  
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:44 AM

Have fun guys! Hit some for me! ;)

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:46 AM

Somebody show up with a bag of 14 drivers
Ping G400max 10.5* Aldila Xtorsion 60x
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Ping G25 7w 20* Aldila NVS Pink 85x
Callaway Apex 4h 23* Matrix Altus Red 92sx
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:47 AM

The Taylormade Twistface Experience

I want to express the highest level of gratitude to those at Taylormade and Golfwrx that made this possible especially:
  • Jory – Global Communications for TM
  • Ryan – Consumer Engagement for TM
  • Rob – Golfwrx Moderator and hell of a guy to drink with when you're delirously tired
  • Tom – My fitter for Thursday
  • Mark & Team – Principal Engineer for TM's R&D
  • Scott – Global Brand Manager for TM
  • Brian – product development
  • Ben & team – Staff Engineers for TM's Golf Balls
  • Calvin, Craig, Dewey, Kenton, Scott & Tim for being excellent people to share this experience with
Day One:  Arriving at Aviara and Argyles

The hotel was incredible, every detail from the layout to the decorations were perfect.  After checking in we hit the range to take our first swings in months.  Here are some pictures from the arrival:

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Range Picture:

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After shaking off some rust, we went to dinner at Argyles hosted by Jory and Ryan.  We spoke about some of the tour happenings and what they expect in the upcoming year.  The number one thing I can tell you is that they are ALL IN on RAHM.  They love the guy and think he is going to be a massive star.  Also, during the dinner they let us know which of their main guys is the longest driver of the golf ball… (highlight below to find out)

Answer Highlight here:  Rory McIlroy


Day Two:  Taylormade HQ

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St. Andrews Room

Here we met Brian, TM's head of product development.  He walked us through the genesis of the club and its specs.  Here is what we learned, much of which has already been posted on this thread:
  • Taylormade believes this is the future of golf technology.
  • M4 has a 67% larger sweet spot than the 2017 M2
  • Twist face is created by increasing the loft and opening the face on the upper toe (neutralizes toe hooks) and doing the opposite in the heel (neutralizes the heel slice)
  • M4 D-Type is setup visually with a paint scheme to look neutral side by side you probably cannot tell the difference
  • TM has a "Vault" that houses all of the hyper-secret projects.
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We watched the Tiger video above (in the picture) and the extended versions of these videos:

Octagon Video


Tee Box Video


This is the face they were looking at.  It is an exaggerated version of the actual product.

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Here are some product shots of the upcoming releases.

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The Kingdom

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We hitched a ride on the fastest golf carts I have ever been on and we were at the doors to the kingdom within minutes.

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They have thought of every single detail in the Kingdom.  Everything has the Kingdom's logo on it and every part of the building is high end.  They even have water bottles and napkins that have "the Kingdom" logos on it.

Here is what the locker room looks like.

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Next onto golf Xanadu… The range at the Kingdom.  

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We were all setup with our own trackman station and fitter.  My fitter's name was Tom and he was the best fitter I have ever worked with.  He could call the spin rate from visual observation and then have it confirmed within 100rpms on the trackman a few seconds later.  

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My Impression of the M3 I was fit into:

Performance:

I'll never forget the first shot I hit with it, which was well out on the toe.  I looked up and to the left to track the flight, yet the ball did not go left, to my surprise it was moving slightly RIGHT?!  It was a slight 1 to 2 yard fade.   I looked back at my fitter Tom and he sort of nodded in approval with a grin on his face when I said "I thought that one was going left."  We dialed this in and when all was said and done I was getting 4 mph better ball speed and about 15+ yards on each shot from better launch conditions.  Even a few shots which I hit horribly on the heel were very manageable slight fades.

Aesthetics:

I loved the look of the crown.  My biggest complaint about the previous generations is that I dislike having white on the crown.  It causes my GC2 to sometimes miss a shot and I think darker colors look better.  The silver meets the carbon in a very nice sleek way while somewhat camouflaging the aerodynamic lift that is built into the carbon.

Sound:

The club has a very nice "thwack" sound without any hints of an aluminum bat sound.  Even on mishits near the heel it sounds very solid.
  • Short Comparison to M4:  I found that the M4 had a flatter trajectory and since we could not adjust the weights for shot shape correction, it seemed like the M3 was the winner for me.
Ball and Golf R&D 101

(PICTURES PROHIBITED)

Next up was the R&D section for clubs and balls.  Here we met Mark, Ben and their teams who explained how their tour clubs and prototype balls are created.  I am not sure how much detail I am allowed to give here but they can create the tour clubs to exceptional precision due to their use of computer based creation.  Skynet is real, people.

Understandably we were prohibited to take any pictures in this section but their upcoming lineups will have some pretty game changing tech and some small tweaks that will be very useful.

Karl Strauss Brewery + In & Out Burger

At this point I was so run down I struggled to not pass out.  Ryan, Jory and his crew were very generous with taking us out to two excellent, yet different venues to give us a sampling of what Carlsbad had to offer.  Every meal I had in Carlsbad was excellent, even the cafeteria at TM made an outstanding omelette.  By the time we went to in and out burger (after a few drinks) I was a zombie.  I seriously don't think I have ever went out to get late night food while being that tired in my life.

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Day Three:  Aviara Golf

The course is beautiful.  Great elevation changes and really interesting architecture, except #10 as Tim said earlier.  I had the privilidge to play with Mark and Scott.  Both guys were at scratch golfers or better.  I think Scotts club head speed had to be 117+ which is probably why he was using the same shaft Sergio previously used.  It was a Diamana Ahina 100g X flex.  WTF?!? I didn't even realize they made shafts like that.

Mark was playing a prototype M driver and since I was in his cart, I got the 202 class on club creation.  We spoke about the acoustics involved with club heads, possible futures of where golf club tech is going and other interesting topics about equipment.  He even pointed me in the direction of Bob Rotella's books since he quickly realized I am one of the most neurotic people when I am playing at the bottom of my range.  Both guys had interesting backstories (one has been training for his job since high school and the other managed a famous record label) and both were super patient with us as we shook off our rust from the previous 3 months.

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Some Past Aviara Kia Classic Champions:

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Conclusion:  This was easily the best golf trip I have ever went on.  Being at Taylormade was awesome but it was the people who went that amplified the experience.

TLDR:  TM has a winner in this Twist Face Technology.  The trip was awesome and I am super thankful the people involved who made this a possibility.  

Let me know if you have any questions!

NOTE:  I have been viciously sick since flying back so it may take few hours before i respond.  I had a 7 hour delay in my flight which killed my sleep cycle.  I did not get back to my house until early Sunday morning due to some prior obligations and a few American Airlines snafus, they broke my taylormade golf bag while it was encased in my club glove.  I had to return back to PHL international to rectify that, plus they would not let me get my debit card that I knew was in my seat from deplaning.  I spent the better part of Saturday and early Sunday rectifying that  

Edited by Gamble Gamble, 15 January 2018 - 05:20 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:58 AM

When you guys go, ask to hit a driver with the exaggerated twist face demonstration model. We want negative loft on the low heel and 60 degrees of loft on the high toe!
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:13 AM

View Postscottaz, on 09 January 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

We're past all embargo dates, so nothing is off limits.

If anyone is looking for anything specific, let us know.

Could you please ask them what happens if your typical miss is a high toe fade/ push to the right?  Does this twist face thing exaggerate that miss?

Thank you!

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:15 AM

FAQ

1.  Could you please ask them what happens if your typical miss is a high toe fade/ push to the right?  Does this twist face thing exaggerate that miss?


A.  They built this club knowing it would significantly improve 80% of golfer's dispersion.  In the rare instance that you hit a wipe slice from the toe, this may make it worse.  Unless you have shown on trackman that you hit toe slices or heel hooks, generally this club tech will help you.

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    you have to hit two good shots in a row

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:24 AM

Very cool! Congrats to all headed west!
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:24 AM

Enjoy it guys! You deserve it!

Looking forward to lots of pictures and updates from the Kingdom!
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:27 AM

Have a great time guys!
( Wish I had read my emails......)
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:33 AM

I can still get off work, will take that last spot.

get me a flight from Des Moines tomorrow morning, will be on it....lol.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:35 AM

Congrats on being selected guys. Like DNice said, the friendships from these trips late incredible. We still have a group text from ours that is active daily.

Glad to see my boy Gamble Gamble got picked!

Great group of members that were selected. Have a great time.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:36 AM

Have a "blast" gents!

Carlsbad is a little slice of heaven. :-)
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:38 AM

View Postnbg352, on 09 January 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Have a great time guys!
( Wish I had read my emails......)

Oh no... don’t tell me you missed the congrats PM

If you want, fly to PHL and I’ll fit you in my club glove.  That travel bag is roomier than my car.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:39 AM

Are any of you lucky guys sub 95mph swing speed? If so can I get extensive feedback on launch/spin characteristics of both drivers.....with DJ stating M4 is flatter flight for him, I'm confused now...

Have fun!

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:42 AM

View PostSwooshLT, on 09 January 2018 - 11:39 AM, said:

Are any of you lucky guys sub 95mph swing speed? If so can I get extensive feedback on launch/spin characteristics of both drivers.....with DJ stating M4 is flatter flight for him, I'm confused now...

Have fun!

I imagine there is more to the story than just "M4 is flatter". My bet is there were loft/lie/face angle changes compared to this normal M1/M3 set up. At the very least he went with a 9.5* stamped head vs his normal 10.5* has had been playing.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:43 AM

View PostGamble Gamble, on 09 January 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

View Postnbg352, on 09 January 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Have a great time guys!
( Wish I had read my emails......)

Oh no... don’t tell me you missed the congrats PM

If you want, fly to PHL and I’ll fit you in my club glove.  That travel bag is roomier than my car.
Yep I missed it.
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