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#121 ttm27

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:54 PM

Great driver.  I’ve gone back and forth between a Diamana D+ and the Ping Tour 65.   Slight edge to the Diamana so far.


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 11:13 PM

Emu - did you end up ordering the Max, what spec and shaft?
Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
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Posted 12 April 2018 - 09:44 PM

I am seeing very few Max at large golf specific retailers, but lots of the 440 in all flavors.

Are the Max moving that fast or is Ping not supplying many to retail?

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:12 AM

It always seemed like a weird release to me. It's like they don't to completely cannibalize the 440s market.

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 10:40 AM

 Poolparty, on 13 April 2018 - 12:12 AM, said:

It always seemed like a weird release to me. It's like they don't to completely cannibalize the 440s market.

Yep, I agree but I am not fretting. Theres many posts on why Ping did this or didn't do that about their G400 line.

At the end of the day, I don't care what Ping is thinking but it sure worked to have me fork out $400 for a driver when I had a really, really, really great combo in the ATMOS/Epic GBB.

The Max reminds me of my old G LS (before ATMOS/Epic) but with a neutral face and evolutionary improvements. The G was long but would fade into a slice like crazy but I needed the low spin since at that time I had a negative AoA (worked on resolving that). Max is very, very much improved on that, evolution rather than revolution.

Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite stiff shaft

Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


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Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 07:07 PM

My max finally came in and I am blown away. I ordered it with the Tour 75X and had a Ping tip installed on my LZ 7.0 as well. Both hit bombs but the Tour 75 is more controlled so far. I need to grab another tip and try my Rogue 125 with it.

On good strikes it’s as long as anything, I think the shaft in the demo I hit was holding it back. On poor strikes it is much longer than the 765, M1 440, or Epic SZ that I have had in the last year. Mainly because those are low spin heads, I am a low spin player, and toe misses just fell out of the sky.

I think with this I am done driver ho’ing and will just go back to being a shaft ho... which sounds worse than it is...
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Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:23 PM

What’s been the typical turn around time on ordering the Max?
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Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:43 PM

 Mr.Fuji, on 13 April 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

What’s been the typical turn around time on ordering the Max?

8 business days for me, not bad at all after waiting 5 weeks or so for an M1 2 years ago.
Ping G400 Max - Project X LZ 70 7.0
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P790 UDI - HZRDUS 85 6.5 (for now/hate this shaft)
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Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:43 AM

 Sef, on 13 April 2018 - 11:43 PM, said:

 Mr.Fuji, on 13 April 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

What’s been the typical turn around time on ordering the Max?

8 business days for me, not bad at all after waiting 5 weeks or so for an M1 2 years ago.

Thanks, I’m at 10 business days and counting and no tracking info yet.
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Posted 14 April 2018 - 02:05 AM

Still waiting for our local store and club pro to bother to get one in to try. Are they in short supply?


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:17 PM

I went to my golf shop that had a plethora of G400 Max and G400 (445 or 440 cc) drivers. I hit them both. Last year I tried out the G400 which i liked alot. The fitting I did was extremely fast because I kinda knew what I wanted already. I am somewhat of a Ping Loyalist and love the forgiveness. I currently gamed the 915 D2 and because issue was spin, it just spun too much.

The max was more forgiving then the G400 and I went with the tour 65 stiff at 10.5 which i can always bring down to 10 degrees. I do not know my spin numbers but I did play the next day which on mishits especially loosing the ball right stayed in play.

I also purchased the 3 wood and hybrid withe the CB shaft.

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 08:00 PM

I played my 1st round today with my G400 Max and my initial impression is as follows.  I did take it to the range yesterday so I did have some practice before Teeing it up.
  • It launches the ball high
  • When I make a good swing it seems to carry further than my G Driver with Aldila Rogue Silver 60
  • It's definitely louder than the G400 and not as dense/soft ( Totally subjective statement )
  • The Kuro Kage 60 Stiff shaft feels loose / soft so I'm not sure it's going to work for me
  • The driver Tag states it's D3 but when I checked it's D1.5.  ( This has my OCD in overdrive )

I did manage to hit one of the longest drives I recall on a particular Par 5 so this combo has potential but as I said above I need to sort out the shaft and Swing weight.
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Posted 14 April 2018 - 10:07 PM

 Sef, on 13 April 2018 - 07:07 PM, said:

My max finally came in and I am blown away. I ordered it with the Tour 75X and had a Ping tip installed on my LZ 7.0 as well. Both hit bombs but the Tour 75 is more controlled so far. I need to grab another tip and try my Rogue 125 with it.

On good strikes it’s as long as anything, I think the shaft in the demo I hit was holding it back. On poor strikes it is much longer than the 765, M1 440, or Epic SZ that I have had in the last year. Mainly because those are low spin heads, I am a low spin player, and toe misses just fell out of the sky.

I think with this I am done driver ho’ing and will just go back to being a shaft ho... which sounds worse than it is...
Pretty much this.  It's all about this mishits for me.  Once my elbow heals I'm 100% getting fitted for my Max and I won't care about a new driver head for years to come unless the rules change.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 12:27 PM

Another devastatingly. Good. Day. on Saturday. 3rd round with the KK DC Proto G400 Max.

It was a warm 75* day in Los Angeles, little to no wind and fairways fast. Played Encino twice now (last week Saturday and this Saturday).

I really like the sound of Max, conveys solid, solid, SOLID  contact. Hit 10 of 12 fairways. Of the 2 I missed, the first was 1st tee jitters, just a slightly right, just under the tree in the rough, 2nds was #11 an over cooked cutting the corner of a slight dogleg left, that one was smoked and would have been devastatingly good but a poor aim. It did try to fade but must have clipped a branch.

One was a slight negative AoA so it went high (that was when one of my buds smoked his and level peg with mine but I was usually a good 100+ yards ahead all day). Best of the driving holes were dead middle.

The KK Dual Core Tini Tour stiff Prototype continued to be good, never felt out of control and really the flight was nice. The D2 swing weight changes works much better than my D5 on the 1st round.

Its in the bag, although, I am contemplating an ATMOS Black 6X shaft for my Max. Low spin, low launch in a High Launch, SUPER forgiving head....hmmmh :)
Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite stiff shaft

Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


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Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 02:02 PM

 SwingBlues, on 15 April 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Another devastatingly. Good. Day. on Saturday. 3rd round with the KK DC Proto G400 Max.

It was a warm 75* day in Los Angeles, little to no wind and fairways fast. Played Encino twice now (last week Saturday and this Saturday).

I really like the sound of Max, conveys solid, solid, SOLID  contact. Hit 10 of 12 fairways. Of the 2 I missed, the first was 1st tee jitters, just a slightly right, just under the tree in the rough, 2nds was #11 an over cooked cutting the corner of a slight dogleg left, that one was smoked and would have been devastatingly good but a poor aim. It did try to fade but must have clipped a branch.

One was a slight negative AoA so it went high (that was when one of my buds smoked his and level peg with mine but I was usually a good 100+ yards ahead all day). Best of the driving holes were dead middle.

The KK Dual Core Tini Tour stiff Prototype continued to be good, never felt out of control and really the flight was nice. The D2 swing weight changes works much better than my D5 on the 1st round.

Its in the bag, although, I am contemplating an ATMOS Black 6X shaft for my Max. Low spin, low launch in a High Launch, SUPER forgiving head....hmmmh :)
Just try the Epic's shaft in the Max?


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:58 PM

 Poolparty, on 15 April 2018 - 02:02 PM, said:

 SwingBlues, on 15 April 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Another devastatingly. Good. Day. on Saturday. 3rd round with the KK DC Proto G400 Max.

It was a warm 75* day in Los Angeles, little to no wind and fairways fast. Played Encino twice now (last week Saturday and this Saturday).

I really like the sound of Max, conveys solid, solid, SOLID  contact. Hit 10 of 12 fairways. Of the 2 I missed, the first was 1st tee jitters, just a slightly right, just under the tree in the rough, 2nds was #11 an over cooked cutting the corner of a slight dogleg left, that one was smoked and would have been devastatingly good but a poor aim. It did try to fade but must have clipped a branch.

One was a slight negative AoA so it went high (that was when one of my buds smoked his and level peg with mine but I was usually a good 100+ yards ahead all day). Best of the driving holes were dead middle.

The KK Dual Core Tini Tour stiff Prototype continued to be good, never felt out of control and really the flight was nice. The D2 swing weight changes works much better than my D5 on the 1st round.

Its in the bag, although, I am contemplating an ATMOS Black 6X shaft for my Max. Low spin, low launch in a High Launch, SUPER forgiving head....hmmmh :)
Just try the Epic's shaft in the Max?

:) if I take your post literally, no, can't be done, different adapter. But I think, thats not what you meant so I'll also answer, I am not going to pull the adapter either because I am saving the shaft for possibly the next gen after Rogue. Also, don't get me wrong the KK is superb but I just want to try the ATMOS on this head to see what its like. The KK tour stiff is very solid for my swing and as I said in the past, I use to love the 1st gen KK Tini and this one is just a little better but with less kick than the original.
Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite stiff shaft

Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


Ball: who knows...
Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:35 PM

Has anyone tried the x-torsion copper?  What type of swing does it fit?

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:00 AM

 Karl2, on 15 April 2018 - 09:35 PM, said:

Has anyone tried the x-torsion copper?  What type of swing does it fit?

I have. My SS is mid 90's with a moderate tempo. It felt good but launched a little higher and spun a little more than the Tour 65 R flex I ended up going with.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:19 AM

Played this weekend with a demo G400 Max and liked it.  Another friend that was playing was hitting some of the longest shots he's ever hit and really liked the feel of the driver.  I'm still on the fence between the Max and the standard and need to get a fitting to narrow it down.  Overall I liked the feel of the driver but it did tend to fly pretty high and as I was playing in the wind (seemingly into the wind on every shot) it tended to balloon a bit. Sound is fine and it's very easy to hit with pretty good forgiveness too, although I was pushing it out to the right too much but that's on me. Pretty surprising driver overall.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:02 AM

Got fitted for a driver and it was between the Rogue and the G400 Max.  I previously tried the Rogue SZ on course and played well with it.  I had the EvenFlow 65s at 44.5" and it was performing pretty well though I hit some OB ones.  The SZ is a great head but I was looking for something quite a bit more forgiving.  I tried the regular Rogue and for some reason I couldnt get it to perform as well as the SZ.  

When I was at the fitting, the fitter put me in a 10.5* G400 Max driver head and put that up against the Rogue at the same loft I believe.  The dispersion and misses with the G400 Max were better but I think the Rogue had slightly more distance.  I told the fitter that minimizing my misses were priority so he did some fine tuning and got me into a G400 Max 9* head lofted up to 9.6* with an Aldila Xtorsion Copper stiff at 44.5".  Placed the order right there and cannot wait to get this in play.  I dont have the numbers yet but my best shot was around 98 club head speed, 13-14* launch angle, and around 2200-2400 spin.  Total carry was around 234 yards with a total of 262 yards on Trackman.

Said it would take about 2 weeks so I cant wait til I get this in and get it out on the course!

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:20 AM

This head tested so well in dispersion and off center hits. It's a true shame it doesn't come in a lower loft. There are a lot higher speed guys would love this head in something like 7.5-8 degree. I've been told the one Finau is playing is close to 7.5 degrees on the face. They should do a limited release on that loft.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:01 AM

 SwingBlues, on 15 April 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

 Poolparty, on 15 April 2018 - 02:02 PM, said:

 SwingBlues, on 15 April 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Another devastatingly. Good. Day. on Saturday. 3rd round with the KK DC Proto G400 Max.

It was a warm 75* day in Los Angeles, little to no wind and fairways fast. Played Encino twice now (last week Saturday and this Saturday).

I really like the sound of Max, conveys solid, solid, SOLID  contact. Hit 10 of 12 fairways. Of the 2 I missed, the first was 1st tee jitters, just a slightly right, just under the tree in the rough, 2nds was #11 an over cooked cutting the corner of a slight dogleg left, that one was smoked and would have been devastatingly good but a poor aim. It did try to fade but must have clipped a branch.

One was a slight negative AoA so it went high (that was when one of my buds smoked his and level peg with mine but I was usually a good 100+ yards ahead all day). Best of the driving holes were dead middle.

The KK Dual Core Tini Tour stiff Prototype continued to be good, never felt out of control and really the flight was nice. The D2 swing weight changes works much better than my D5 on the 1st round.

Its in the bag, although, I am contemplating an ATMOS Black 6X shaft for my Max. Low spin, low launch in a High Launch, SUPER forgiving head....hmmmh :)
Just try the Epic's shaft in the Max?

:) if I take your post literally, no, can't be done, different adapter. But I think, thats not what you meant so I'll also answer, I am not going to pull the adapter either because I am saving the shaft for possibly the next gen after Rogue. Also, don't get me wrong the KK is superb but I just want to try the ATMOS on this head to see what its like. The KK tour stiff is very solid for my swing and as I said in the past, I use to love the 1st gen KK Tini and this one is just a little better but with less kick than the original.
I guess we just look at it differently. If I had the shaft already I'd just buy another ping adapter over another atmos black.

 Karl2, on 15 April 2018 - 09:35 PM, said:

Has anyone tried the x-torsion copper?  What type of swing does it fit?
I like it. It seems like a little stiffer version of the tour 65.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:42 PM

That's great news on the x-torsion.  I prefer more stiffer and stable shafts but need more launch and less spin.  The 10.5 max was giving me 2650 average spin stock shaft when I tried it.  Last time at golftown the max beat the epic, m4, and fusion.  Next time I will dial in the max.  Of course at golftown you have to pretty much fit yourself because the sales guys aren't fitters.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:26 PM

 TollBros, on 16 April 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

This head tested so well in dispersion and off center hits. It's a true shame it doesn't come in a lower loft. There are a lot higher speed guys would love this head in something like 7.5-8 degree. I've been told the one Finau is playing is close to 7.5 degrees on the face. They should do a limited release on that loft.

It comes in 9* and you can adjust it to 8*.
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#145 TollBros

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 12:46 AM

 Konklifer, on 16 April 2018 - 09:26 PM, said:

 TollBros, on 16 April 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

This head tested so well in dispersion and off center hits. It's a true shame it doesn't come in a lower loft. There are a lot higher speed guys would love this head in something like 7.5-8 degree. I've been told the one Finau is playing is close to 7.5 degrees on the face. They should do a limited release on that loft.

It comes in 9* and you can adjust it to 8*.

I understand clearly how they say it works. The problem is that all that really does is change face angle. I would like one that is around 7 degrees on the face, about 2 degrees open, loft being independent of face angle. I sole the driver at address and want to see the face open, not hover the driver trying to manipulate the open face to square before taking it away. This whole one loft thing doesn't work at all for guys like me.

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#146 swizbeatz

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:33 AM

 TollBros, on 17 April 2018 - 12:46 AM, said:

 Konklifer, on 16 April 2018 - 09:26 PM, said:

 TollBros, on 16 April 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

This head tested so well in dispersion and off center hits. It's a true shame it doesn't come in a lower loft. There are a lot higher speed guys would love this head in something like 7.5-8 degree. I've been told the one Finau is playing is close to 7.5 degrees on the face. They should do a limited release on that loft.

It comes in 9* and you can adjust it to 8*.

I understand clearly how they say it works. The problem is that all that really does is change face angle. I would like one that is around 7 degrees on the face, about 2 degrees open, loft being independent of face angle. I sole the driver at address and want to see the face open, not hover the driver trying to manipulate the open face to square before taking it away. This whole one loft thing doesn't work at all for guys like me.

They wonít send anything lower if you ask for it digitally lofted?  Iím sure they keep those for tour guys but just curious if youíve tried.
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#147 ryant0220

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 05:16 AM

 ppauls1978, on 04 April 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

anybody playing a G400 max with a tour Ad DI Shaft?
Yes. 9* w-ad tp6x.  Had the same shaft in a regular g 400 10.5.  The feel with the max is way better.  Itís a superb combo!

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#148 jonn443

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 07:53 AM

 ryant0220, on 18 April 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:

 ppauls1978, on 04 April 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

anybody playing a G400 max with a tour Ad DI Shaft?
Yes. 9* w-ad tp6x.  Had the same shaft in a regular g 400 10.5.  The feel with the max is way better.  Itís a superb combo!

I don't think that's the same shaft model this poster is referring to...
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#149 Karl2

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 09:35 PM

Was hitting some high low spin draws (rare for me) and some pulls etc.on a sim today.
Couldn't seem to hit the tour 65 or x-torsion well though.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:52 AM

Got a ATMOS Black 6-S shaft coming for my G400 Max, be very interesting to see how this shaft does. I was so thorn between this shaft and another 6X but ended up with the 6-S just for the fact I could probably do with a little help turning the head over, as compared to the stiffer tip in the 6X.

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